stephenpac Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Since 1998 US News has been publishing the only known ranking of PA programs. Their rankings are based on subjective peer assessment surveys of PA program faculty. A useful ranking system should be “measurable, reproducible, and not opinion based! Physician Assistant Programs Ranked by PANCE Pass Rates 2017 http://www.thepalife.com/best-pa-schools/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timon Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 So, does this also account for variables such as attrition rates and other obstacles that may be encountered by PA students? I had one person get a divorce which ultimately made it too difficult for them to study and pass their first time. Eventually they ended up passing months later but real life happens. We had students who were in their 50s and one was 60 years old when they graduated our class, clearly they struggled to pass their first time as well but they would make great clinicians once in the work force. I think this is an important metric but not the be all for rankings as I'm perceiving that you are suggesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted March 14, 2017 Moderator Share Posted March 14, 2017 YES, pance rates are important and you have to pass pance to practice, but, given that the vast majority of students pass pance I think any criteria has to include variety and quality of rotation sites. have all the sites and preceptors been stable for at least 5 years? Do the students report that they are allowed to see patients and do procedures as opposed to just following a doc around for 4-6 weeks, etc. In general, I think the older , more established programs(ie duke, stony brook, drexel, yale, emory, u. WA, U. Iowa, etc) will give you a better educational experience than the university of just opened last week and struggling to find anyone with a pulse to precept our students. I've heard horror stories about the poor quality of rotation sites at new programs; students being used as MAs, students not allowed to see patients or do procedures, gyn rotations in which students can't do pelvics, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mandrew1 Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 I prefer this method: In an article titled: A Novel Approach to Ranking Physician Assistant Programs (2010 Vol 21 No 4/The Journal of Physician Assistant Education, by James Van Rhee, MS, PA-C; Michael J. Davanzo, MMS, PA-C), a new approach to ranking PA programs was proposed based on objective data. PA program directors from 126 accredited PA programs (at the time) identified indicators to include in a new ranking system for PA programs. The four criteria they agreed upon were: 1. Each program’s current ARC-PA accreditation length 2. Student-to-faculty ratio 3. Percentage of faculty with doctoral degrees 4. Most recent 5-year average PANCE rates If you The top programs did not match US News Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryebread203 Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 I prefer this method: In an article titled: A Novel Approach to Ranking Physician Assistant Programs (2010 Vol 21 No 4/The Journal of Physician Assistant Education, by James Van Rhee, MS, PA-C; Michael J. Davanzo, MMS, PA-C), a new approach to ranking PA programs was proposed based on objective data. PA program directors from 126 accredited PA programs (at the time) identified indicators to include in a new ranking system for PA programs. The four criteria they agreed upon were: 1. Each program’s current ARC-PA accreditation length 2. Student-to-faculty ratio 3. Percentage of faculty with doctoral degrees 4. Most recent 5-year average PANCE rates If you The top programs did not match US News Here is a link. It will immediately download. shp.rutgers.edu/dept/primary_care/paweb/documents/NovelRankingSystem.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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