Guest UVAPAC Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 I am curious how much everyone gets for their yearly CME? My offer letter stated $1,500 and up to 5 days off with department approval "for the first fiscal year" Now that a year has gone by, the department head is stating that there have been "severe budget cuts" and that there is essentially next to nothing for CME (though there is money for the physicians to go to conferences etc). I have spoken to many of my friends, and it seems $1,500 is standard, and some places even up to $2,000 a year. Am I at their mercy, or do I stand my ground and demand appropriate CME allowance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camoman1234 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 If you don't have your CMEs, you do not have a license to practice medicine, which means you can't work for them. That would be my argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest UVAPAC Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 If you don't have your CMEs, you do not have a license to practice medicine, which means you can't work for them. That would be my argument. Essentially they are stating that if I attend grand rounds weekly I would get 30 credits a year through that, and then can take some free online CME activities to make up the rest. Possible... Yes. Optimal education... No. Fun/Interactive... No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinkertdm Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 I get zero from the VA. They might (probably not) pay for a conference, but I prefer journals and things I can do randomly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgriffiths Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 UVAPAC - if it were me, I would strongly question the efficacy of what is being offered. The point of CME is to learn and stay up to date on new medical practices. Obviously that goal is not always achieved, but it is the goal. Can that goal be achieved with what your employer is offering you? I had a job offer that offered $0 of CME and 0 PTO, because there is "free CME online." This was an orthopedic position and based on the PAs I've asked, there is not enough free orthopedic CME available to meet the requirement, so I would be completing CME for other specialties...which would be a waste of time for my supervising physician (for example: no one would pay to send me to a OB/GYN conference if I'm working in orthopedics, wouldn't make sense). Again, if it were me, I would want to be paid for attending grand rounds, assuming that becomes the requirement, and the result is that you end up working more hours. My guess is that your work outside of grand rounds won't decrease, which means you are effectively taking a pay decrease...not acceptable in my opinion, especially as you now have another year of experience under your belt (whether that is 1 year or 13). Disclaimer: I am almost a new grad PA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moestown1016 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 2k first year 3k after that. Working for private EM group Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktheshark89 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 2k and 1 week off per year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bike mike Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 $2500/yr. Briefly had another job that only offered $1K/yr which I thought was low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnConner Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 $2000/yr and 1 week. Using a portion of it for a conference in Costa Rica in a few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator ventana Posted October 18, 2016 Moderator Share Posted October 18, 2016 2500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgriffiths Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 The job I just accepted included $2,500 and 5 days. Verbally, I was told it is possible some years to "apply" for more if there is a need, but approval is on a case-by-case basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katera Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 $1500 last two years, then cut to $750 this year.....UC chain was sold and "that" is what their other PA's get. Pissed me off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
km88 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 $3500 for PAs in my ER. My coworkers and I were getting this from our private ER group when we lost our contract to a big national group. They agreed to match it but wouldn't cover DEA/license separately, which was a change from our previous employer. A couple coworkers and I will also be at the Costa Rica conference in a couple weeks :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randito Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 $4500 and 5 days, working for large academic hospital. Previously for a large FQHC, $750 and 3 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myironlung Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 $0.. Just do article quizzes to get the Cat 1, approx $150 for all the required credits. Can't beat it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check 2 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 $1500 per year, no rollover. Zero days for CME - comes out of meager PTO. Not ideal at all. I wanted to accumulate any unused $$ to put toward a masters plan but doc nixed that concept. So-- use it or lose it. Private solo doc family practice. Since NCCPA is still a generalist exam - we all need generalist CME and those aren't free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PM2016 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 started a new job and i get $0. Have completed 50 hours already and they were free from the cleveland clinic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeBuyAndSellJunk Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 $3200 CME + 5 days PTO. FQHC. Started at $1200 + 5 days PTO and I rolled some salary increases in to CME over the previous 3 years. I was spending the money post tax anyhow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jb5158 Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 $2000, no rollover, 5 days of CME. Conferences have to be in continental US. They pay for state license and DEA without taking it from the CME money as they are essential to practicing, but not PANRE since you technically can still work without the official certification. You can use your CME money for it however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrsmurf Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 $0/0 days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check 2 Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 $0/0 days OUCH! Do you spend enough to deduct on taxes or even worth it? How do you budget, achieve your hours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check 2 Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Tomorrow - a Saturday - I spend six glorious hours in an auditorium doing state mandated suicide prevention CME -- and I am on call..... Doc paid for this - prob out of my budget. But, since the state mandated it - we all have to do it. Just happens to earn 6 hours of Cat I. WooHoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weezianna Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 At the VA - 5 days of approved leave for CME, $0 for CME, no repayment for recertification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisephillips Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 $2500/yr and 5 days/yr. Have a friend, of course, who gets $4000/yr on a rechargeable visa card towards CME and expenses and 8 CME days/yr. She works for a large EM group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohiovolffemtp Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 $2500/year, no days off. The $2500 covers everything: DEA, license, CME. The years when I have to renew both license and DEA I wind up paying for most of SEMPA out of my own pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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