SLM2016 Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Hello everyone, I am aware that Hopkins has a residency program for PAs but not an actually program for to obtain a Master's degree. But have been told by a practicing PA is it possible to list as an independent study under their NP masters program.Has anyone gone this route or was aware of this route? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MT2PA Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Sounds impossible. If JH isn't accredited by ARC, they shouldn't be graduating PAs/students shouldn't be able to sit for PANCE. Did this PA graduate recently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cop to pa Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Hopkins had a PA program years ago, but not anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted April 9, 2016 Moderator Share Posted April 9, 2016 and it wasn't online....they have had surgical and em residencies as well...also not online... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLM2016 Posted April 9, 2016 Author Share Posted April 9, 2016 No, she didn't graduate recently. I believe she's been practicing for over 5 years. I was surprised too since its not an approved program. But, she told me it was apart of NP primary care master's program but that her classes were med classes vs NP classes and she was able to take her boards and hasn't run into any issues regarding it. I was just very surprised when she told me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted April 9, 2016 Moderator Share Posted April 9, 2016 sounds like she is an np, not a pa...to take the nccpa pa boards you need to graduate from a real program. no way around that. hard stop. period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MT2PA Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Sounds like this person is either confused about her credentials or is falsely advertising herself. Taking med classes as part of an NP program does NOT equal being a PA. Something is fishy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cop to pa Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Crazy question: have you Google'd her? Looked for credentials? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted April 9, 2016 Moderator Share Posted April 9, 2016 way too sensible and easy....:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLM2016 Posted April 9, 2016 Author Share Posted April 9, 2016 Yeah, as I read more into I wasn't totally convinced either. And I did actually look her up before starting and she went to King's college which she told me and then transferred over to JH. I'm not sure how the independent study works at JH and how could only 1 student be apart this program and come out as a PA. When I asked her how she applied, she said she contacted the administrative department for that program and told them she wanted to be a PA and they listed her as an independent study after she transferred..no idea how that could even work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted April 9, 2016 Moderator Share Posted April 9, 2016 it doesn't work that way...." hello, Harvard university? I'm at brakebills university PA program but I want to transfer to your university and finish an independent studies degree in pa studies, is that ok? " nope. maybe mph or mba postgrad at Hopkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLM2016 Posted April 9, 2016 Author Share Posted April 9, 2016 I understand it doesn't work that way...hence my confusion and surprise when I was told this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted April 9, 2016 Moderator Share Posted April 9, 2016 that's like this: some dude says: " I studied at Harvard" what that actually means : "they have a cool quad and I read stuff there once for a community college night school class I was taking on brewing beer in your sink" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UGoLong Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 If you know her name, you could probably look up her license info at a Maryland government site. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpackelly Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 You can also look her up at NCCPA. Many many years ago Johns Hopkins had a program and who know what special arrangements they might have made way back when, but that was in the 1970s. The NCCPA also let people grandfather in as late as the late 1970s. The late Ron Nelson, AAPA President about a decade ago, grandfathered in and certified. He was proud of it and Michigan was proud of him as a PA. Michigan was one of the few states the grandfathered PAs could be licensed in. Vermont was another. There is also a pretty famous grandfathered in PA in NY but I will not give the name here. California also grandfathered in PAs who were trained in their Women's Health Specialist Health Manpower Pilot project training programs at UCLA, a free clinic in Sacramento, and the Humboldt Open Door Clinic. First they were licensed as women's health PAs in California and then as regular PAs since the special license category went away. There are three or four of these folks still practicing or they were when I last looked. A number of others went through other formal programs subsequently. One of my colleagues in the Sacramento clinic program went on to be a neurosurgeon! I went through one of that program in 1976-1978 (the Sacto free clinic) prior to going through the formal Stanford Primary Care Associate Program and then becoming NCCPA certified. One of the interesting things is that we could prescribe then, about 15 years prior to other PAs in California, through a special health manpower pilot project, although that ended in the early 1980s.. If you are licensed in one state you can become licensed in another "by endorsement" sometimes. Things were much different early on so I am just giving a historical perspective, as one of the few dinosaurs old enough to do so. Medicine in 1976, and practice as a PA, was as different from today as night and day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cop to pa Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 OP: If you feel comfortable about it, PM me her name. I won't contact her, just want to take a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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