cushball08 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 I just wanted to get my fellow PA forum members opinions and get this off my chest. I currently work as nocturnal hospitalist. Typical 7on7off schedule. My job just started allowing the doctors to get overtime for extra shifts they pick up which they call "moonlighting". My director states the PAs and NPs are ineligible to get overtime for extra shifts since we are hospital employed. The doctors are also hospital employed as well. This sounds crazy and unfair to me.There are a grand total of three of us that work nights and we are constantly asked to pick up shifts especially on the busier Monday and Friday nights. Anyone else have BS rules like this at job or this a random incident? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinntsp Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 You are asked to pick up extra shifts without extra pay? Tell them no thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterallsummer Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 If we work extra shifts we get the extra hourly however not OT pay. Our hourly is pretty competitive so not a huge deal personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LKPAC Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 If the doctors get "overtime" as you stated, then so should the PAs. Every time a PA allows themself to be a doormat, it diminishes all of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaijyn Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Where I am at now the doctors get yearly bonuses while the PAs get shafted. This became contentious and apparently it is being looked at for change (allegedly to be changed) next year. The overtime is not a true overtime but the docs get a similar compensation so it is technically fair. However, the beef is for required hours and number of shifts. The docs only need about 130ish hrs/month for FT while the PAs need 160 hrs/month (this is also being addressed but lots of roadblocks with it). I agree with above posters; if they are not paying, I would not work it. I would tell them exactly why as well. It may cause some issues, but you all have to go together on it. Unions worked back in the day for a reason; and while I am not advocating having a union, I do advocate having the group be on the same page. If no one will do it, then they will either have to hire another person to cover the shifts, or pay overtime for your guys to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMD16 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 I just wanted to get my fellow PA forum members opinions and get this off my chest. I currently work as nocturnal hospitalist. Typical 7on7off schedule. My job just started allowing the doctors to get overtime for extra shifts they pick up which they call "moonlighting". My director states the PAs and NPs are ineligible to get overtime for extra shifts since we are hospital employed. The doctors are also hospital employed as well. This sounds crazy and unfair to me.There are a grand total of three of us that work nights and we are constantly asked to pick up shifts especially on the busier Monday and Friday nights. Anyone else have BS rules like this at job or this a random incident? It's totally illegal! Demand to be paid for any extra shift The rate ranges from $65 to $100/hr for any extra shift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cushball08 Posted December 11, 2015 Author Share Posted December 11, 2015 I am leaving this job anyhow but this just annoys me. Myself and other advanced practitioners works nights which is the least desirable shift. Ive lost count the number time I have been asked to pick up an extra shift. Even the daytime APs are fed up they aren't offered night differental when asked to pick up nights shifts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogLovingPA Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 That seems crazy. Are you paid an hourly wage or are you salaried? If you are paid an hourly wage they are required by FLSA law to pay you overtime. We actually have the opposite situation where I work and as nuts as it sounds - I hate it. The docs are paid hourly for every hour they work but no overtime, no holiday pay. The PA's get overtime (anything over 80 in a 2 week period) and holiday pay - which seems like a good gig except we are not allowed to go into overtime hours. So it makes shift trades a giant pain in the arse. I would much rather just get paid my standard hourly wage for every hour I work and be allowed to pick up extra shifts, trade shifts outside a pay period, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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