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A patient every 10 minutes for a new grad?     I am glad you learned so much in PA school.  Even with over 30 years of experience I find it grueling and not conducive to quality care to ever see more than four patients an hour, and I can only keep that up for seven hours or so.  

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pretty high expectations of a new grad. i know some docs that start off new pa's with 30 minute slots even. i would hope the doc is practicing safe medicine that he wants a new grad to see so many per hour.

 

u can make mistakes if u rush too much, especially for someone just out of school. u will be doing ure patients a service, too.

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i know some docs that start off new pa's with 30 minute slots even.

I see 12 patients in an 8 hour day in family medicine.  I don't get paid $60 an hour, but I gladly get paid less to actually practice medicine, relate to my patients as people rather than as conditions.

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I'm a new grad with a FM offer that I'll share with you since we're both in the same boat.

 

  • $50 an hour w/ 5% annual bonus (raise will come when productivity increases approximately around 3-6 months after starting employment as a new grad)
  • Full benefits (HMO / PPO as desired, 401k w/ 2% matching, $2k CME paid bi-annually regardless of CME costs).
  • Malpractice insurance
  • 10 days paid vacation
  • 5 days sick time
  • Hours 8:45-11:30 lunch then 1:45-4:30 (extra time that is missing is given for charting)
  • No weekend / no call
  • Optional can volunteer to work 1 Saturday morning a month
  • Get my own scribe and my own MA that work directly with me
  • 6 patients per half shift (so starting at 12 patients a day) will ramp up 2 an additional patients per half day until I reach 12 patients per half day + 2 phone appointments a day and up to 2 schedule adds each day PRN. So that's a potential of 26 patients max per day when fully operational. No more than 2 new patients scheduled in a day. With a scribe I'm expected to see 13 patients per half day when fully operational. 
  • Option to work urgent care and ER shifts (I'll be doing 4 days of FM and then 1 day dedicated to UC/ER) and also have the option of picking up hours after my day shift has ended to help close the urgent care (5pm-9pm). 
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once again

 

new grads should start at 10-12 patients PER DAY

 

any more then this is nuts and unsafe

 

 

build up from there

 

 

if your doc wants you to see 5 per hour - run away.... not even established PA's can maintain that (nor can established doc's)

you are just a production machine to make $$$ at that point....

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more than 3/hr is hard to do and unsustainable in the long run. working in fast track I can see 5-6/hr, but hate those days and much prefer the 2-3/hr pace of the main ER or even better 1-1.5/hr in a rural practice....

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What about malpractice, and tail coverage? 

 

 

I'm a new grad with a FM offer that I'll share with you since we're both in the same boat.

 

  • $50 an hour w/ 5% annual bonus (raise will come when productivity increases approximately around 3-6 months after starting employment as a new grad)
  • Full benefits (HMO / PPO as desired, 401k w/ 2% matching, $2k CME paid bi-annually regardless of CME costs).
  • Malpractice insurance
  • 10 days paid vacation
  • 5 days sick time
  • Hours 8:45-11:30 lunch then 1:45-4:30 (extra time that is missing is given for charting)
  • No weekend / no call
  • Optional can volunteer to work 1 Saturday morning a month
  • Get my own scribe and my own MA that work directly with me
  • 6 patients per half shift (so starting at 12 patients a day) will ramp up 2 an additional patients per half day until I reach 12 patients per half day + 2 phone appointments a day and up to 2 schedule adds each day PRN. So that's a potential of 26 patients max per day when fully operational. No more than 2 new patients scheduled in a day. With a scribe I'm expected to see 13 patients per half day when fully operational. 
  • Option to work urgent care and ER shifts (I'll be doing 4 days of FM and then 1 day dedicated to UC/ER) and also have the option of picking up hours after my day shift has ended to help close the urgent care (5pm-9pm). 
  • eClinical EMR
  • UpToDate paid for by company

 

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Timon, is this FM offer from a large practice or even a hospital?

It's a practice that started 10 years ago with 3 physicians. In that time they now have 6 physicians, 4 PAs, 2 NPs and 28 support staff (HR, IT, MAs, etc) and recently opened 2 more location in the past year (4 locations now). So I'd say it's about a medium sized practice.

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It's a practice that started 10 years ago with 3 physicians. In that time they now have 6 physicians, 4 PAs, 2 NPs and 28 support staff (HR, IT, MAs, etc) and recently opened 2 more location in the past year (4 locations now). So I'd say it's about a medium sized practice.

Do you mind sharing what state or area you're in?  

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