NationalPAEducation Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Hey guys, I wrote a bit about the process of getting my very first position as a PA. I was really worried at first because I didn't get any offers from my rotations. Check out my blog post about it here: http://www.physicianassistantstudyguide.com/ObtainingMyFirst.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonlegit Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Is the job market really that strong that employers genuinely think this? "I realized that employers know that if someone is professional and intelligent enough to earn the title of physician assistant, then they will almost assuredly be a good worker." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator True Anomaly Posted November 20, 2015 Moderator Share Posted November 20, 2015 Is the job market really that strong that employers genuinely think this? "I realized that employers know that if someone is professional and intelligent enough to earn the title of physician assistant, then they will almost assuredly be a good worker." You may be given the benefit of the doubt until you show that you're not reliable/professional/competent/etc. And woe be to those who demonstrate this on their first job- it sets up a pattern of undesirable jobs in the future, if any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PACdan Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 I think a big elephant in the room is how much your first job is going to invest in training you from day one. I see a disturbing trend of new grads getting themselves hired at places that seem to think they're ready to see big pt. loads with minimal oversight, right out of the gate. 12 months of rotations does not make one ready for this. Just like an intern, we need to convince employers that the first couple of years REQUIRE the same graduated responsibility and training as a resident. At the end of my IM rotation I was much more comfortable seeing pts. and working on their tx plans myself. Yet I was also constantly presenting to and consulting with my senior resident and attending. Sometimes I was good to go, other times I needed correction. I can't imagine not having that type of support in the years immediately after school. So to all the senior PAs on here, how does one differentiate between a job that is going to be invested in our continued training and one that just sees a revenue generator? Is this an appropriate line of questions to ask during an interview? e.g., "How do you plan to structure my training? How will the support system of experienced providers work? etc." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoRyou Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 This gives me hope as I have struggled with my BS in psychology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator True Anomaly Posted November 22, 2015 Moderator Share Posted November 22, 2015 So to all the senior PAs on here, how does one differentiate between a job that is going to be invested in our continued training and one that just sees a revenue generator? Is this an appropriate line of questions to ask during an interview? e.g., "How do you plan to structure my training? How will the support system of experienced providers work? etc." Although my situation was different because my first job out of school was a formalized, structured residency program, I would recommend word-of-mouth when trying to figure out how supportive a work environment will be for you as a new grad. This is where making connections with PAs in your area, whether at a conference or local PA society meeting, is very helpful. If you're going to work in the same geographical location as your PA program, talking to prior grads can be helpful too. And I don't see any issue with asking those questions during an interview. Anyone else who's gone through this as a new grad, please chime in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktheshark89 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Just accepted my first job and asked similar questions. How many patients per day initially do you expect me to see? What is the goal? How long until I get there? Will I be left alone to work to start? Do you precept students? Etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NationalPAEducation Posted November 23, 2015 Author Share Posted November 23, 2015 This gives me hope as I have struggled with my BS in psychology. Glad to hear :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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