paleanne Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 I saw an ad in a local paper regarding this website to check if your health care provider is a "doctor". The website is sponsored by the KY Medical Assocation...Are other state medical associations actively using this kind of publicity against PAs and NPs? In KY we have a difficult time getting any legislative issues passed due to the heavy hand of KMA. check out the link: http://www.mdidky.com/WhoDecides.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayla2013 Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 wow, theyre taking it a bit far. fear tactics trump everything 'putting families at risk' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planteater Posted September 14, 2011 Share Posted September 14, 2011 http://www.mdidky.com/MedicalDegrees.aspx WHAT????? they say that some of these professions only require a year or more of training? [TABLE] [TR] [TD=class: style13][/TD] [TD=class: style16] Chiropractors (musculoskeletal)[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: style13] [/TD] [TD=class: style16] Optometrists (eye)[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: style13] [/TD] [TD=class: style16] Podiatrists (feet)[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: style13] [/TD] [TD=class: style16] Pharmacists[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: style13] [/TD] [TD=class: style16] Psychologists[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE] [TR] [TD=class: style10] [/TD] [TD=class: style15] Midwives[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: style10] [/TD] [TD=class: style15] Nurse Practitioners[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD=class: style10] [/TD] [TD=class: style15] Any health care provider without an MD or DO behind their name I guess that falls under the heading of the last one? But, seriously- they are implying that all these other people are undereducated for what they are doing. As far as I know these all require a lot more than 1 year. AND they say that MDs all have 11-15 years of "intense medical education". So, undergrad is suddenly intense medical education? Well, I guess most NPs and PAs have 4 years of intense medical education under their belts if that is the criteria. [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewtonsApple Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Don't Medical Schools decide who is qualified to treat me? Not at all. Kentucky politicians make the rules. And powerful interest groups are always lobbying to overturn existing laws for their own financial gain. I like this question, made me laugh. Who would have thought any entity outside of Med School would have the intelligence to decide who is qualified to treat patient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beorp Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 In many ways, I don't think you can blame the KMA for protecting their own professional interests. PAs should do the same. If there is any positive in this though, it is that in their red X list they mention NPs by name but not PAs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crieman Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 In many ways, I don't think you can blame the KMA for protecting their own professional interests. PAs should do the same. If there is any positive in this though, it is that in their red X list they mention NPs by name but not PAs. Funny, I don't see this as a positive at all. To me this means we fly so far under the radar they can't even remember to add us to their negative campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paleanne Posted September 15, 2011 Author Share Posted September 15, 2011 Yes, I wasn't sure whether to be happy or offended that we weren't mentioned by name...lol! I agree that they should be protecting their own professional interests, but why do it at the expense of other health care professionals? There are many things they can do to paint themselves in a positive light without putting down other professionals. Many physicians in KY (my SP being one) realize our value and are very supportive of us, but KMA is powerful and they only represent a small portion of KY physicians as many are not KMA members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsqdvr Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 I wasn't sure whether to be happy or offended that we weren't mentioned by name It's just a guess but I think "be offended" is the right answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAAdmission Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 I may be wrong on this, and I don't mean to knock any Bluegrass folks here, but it isn't like there's much for physicians to protect in Kentucky. Are the physicians really doing that great a job there that they want to take ownership of? When I think of a "healthy" state, KY isn't one that comes to mind. So nice work, docs! Kinda reminds me of Ole Miss when they were fighting so hard to keep PAs out of there. No sir, no reason or room for more medical practitioners there. (Even though under the ruling MD/NP regieme, they had acheived an infant mortality rate that most African countries would not want...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator ventana Posted September 16, 2011 Moderator Share Posted September 16, 2011 this is exactly why we need to stand up for ourselves and politically go after more independence and standing in the eyes of the law in all these states and medicare/medicaid... we can no longer depend upon our doc's to protect us... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikejfox Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Ventana, I like the way you are talking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paleanne Posted September 20, 2011 Author Share Posted September 20, 2011 I'm not so sure that the the lack of good health in ky can be blamed on any healthcare provider (physician, NP or PA)...I think it stems from much more deep rooted societal issues. I put my heart into my work every single day and still have a largely unhealthy pt population. Why is that? I have counselled, referred, and prescribed these people to death! KY is a poor state and many of the jobs are blue collar. I have many pts who are coal miners or former coal miners and they, of course, have severe lung problems. Many have suffered injuries due to these blue collar jobs and have chronic issues from this... I would say 90% of my pt population smokes, in spite of my counselling and prescribing...Specialist care is difficult for patients living in rural areas, many have to drive as long as an hour or two away to see a specialist in Lexington or Louisville. It's not feasible for most. You would be surprised at the number of young patients I have who cannot functionally read (what's happened to our education system!) If you can't read, how do you follow instructions on a medicine bottle or printed out forms? Lack of exercise is a huge issue, but again how can you "make" a person do these things?? You can't, but I know I try everyday to encourage, as do my other colleagues. I know this isn't an isolated KY issue, but I do think there is high quality healthcare in KY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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