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how long should a professional CV be  

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  1. 1. how long should a professional CV be

    • 1 page-basic
      7
    • 2 pages-basic but inclusive
      17
    • 3 pages comprehensive
      5
    • 4 or more pages- lists anything/everything
      1


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anyone have any thoughts about how long a professional CV should be?

my thought has always been short and sweet. include what's relevant but don't list stuff from the distant past unrelated to medicine. I have been screening cv's for a position we are offering and the content and style vary dramatically with some 1 page cv's and some 5 pg cv's from new grads listing what plays they were in in high school...

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always keep mine under 2 pages - as I get more PA experience more of the non pa stuff (or pre pa) gets dropped

 

one seems way to short to get much in there

 

3 seems to be to much to read.......

Depends....I've dropped all of the non PA stuff, and mine is about 7 pages now.

 

Rod's is about 22 pages.

 

As you publish more, present more, and get more involved in different arena's, the CV gets larger and larger.

 

The NIH Biosketch format is perfect for a 2 pager, although it potentially excludes a lot.

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mine is 2 pages and includes education, licenses/certifications. employment hx(medical only), teaching experience(medical only), special skills/experiences(treadmill training, overseas volunteer work, etc), affiliations(aapa, sempa, etc), and publications.

if you have a lot of publications it can get lengthy. what I did with mine was call that section"selected publications" and don't list short articles, letters to the editor, etc . I don't list references on my cv. if they want them I will provide them with a list. I don't list personal info on my cv(hobbies, marital status, etc). I don't think anyone looking to hire me as an em pa cares that I was in the orchestra in college or worked as a security guard when I was 15-18.

mine is 2 pages and includes education, licenses/certifications. employment hx(medical only), teaching experience(medical only), special skills/experiences(treadmill training, overseas volunteer work, etc), affiliations(aapa, sempa, etc), and publications.

if you have a lot of publications it can get lengthy. what I did with mine was call that section"selected publications" and don't list short articles, letters to the editor, etc . I don't list references on my cv. if they want them I will provide them with a list. I don't list personal info on my cv(hobbies, marital status, etc). I don't think anyone looking to hire me as an em pa cares that I was in the orchestra in college or worked as a security guard when I was 15-18.

 

That's about right. Keep it relevant to the profession, avoid any personal data that would give away info other than your work performance, & leave out references. All cv's should be at least two pages, otherwise it's just a resume.

A CV is your life, hence Vitae. If you want to keep it brief make a resume... Agree that you don't have to include the high school gas station job but it is meant to be encompassing, particularly in academics.

 

G

A CV is your life, hence Vitae. If you want to keep it brief make a resume...

G

 

Yep...

The problem here is that folks are trying to equate resumes to CVs.

The more you do... the longer a CV gets.

There really is NO limit on the size/length of a CV... but there is on a Resume.

Every SP that I sign on with... I get a copy of their CV for my personal file.

Most of these MD's CVs are 5-7 pages long.

 

Mine is 3.5 pages because I've worked in healthcare for 25yrs and in several specialties as a Medic, Nurse and PA.

 

YMMV

 

Contrarian

Agree with Contrarian and Kargiver; a CV and a resume are two very different creatures. I had always tried to keep mine to two pages (like I'd been taught with resumes), but once I got into an academic setting and started publishing it just wasn't possible, so I added the third page. My SP gave me a copy of his CV last year for my UNMC Masters application and it was around 15 pages or so! He is the one of the big names in prehospital medicine and academic emergency medicine, and it would be physically impossible for him to give any idea of his background by using a two page format.

Agree with Contrarian and Kargiver; a CV and a resume are two very different creatures. I had always tried to keep mine to two pages (like I'd been taught with resumes), but once I got into an academic setting and started publishing it just wasn't possible, so I added the third page. My SP gave me a copy of his CV last year for my UNMC Masters application and it was around 15 pages or so! He is the one of the big names in prehospital medicine and academic emergency medicine, and it would be physically impossible for him to give any idea of his background by using a two page format.

 

 

This ^^^^^^^

 

A CV does not have a limit. I know people with 1-2 pagers, and I know very accomplished researchers, and internationally renowned MD's with 20-30 pagers. The Orthopedist I used to work for is now the current President of the AAOS, and is a very accomplished author, international speaker, and researcher....his CV is at least 25 pages long.

 

That's the whole point of a CV....

 

For research purposes, most of us have a biosketch as well. Mainly because most grant submissions request them. If you are funding a grant, you don't have time to look through hundreds of 20 page long CV's.

 

In addition, some places have their own formatting. Here at Mayo, for academic advancement/appointment, ALL CV's, need to be in what they call an RE-AIMS format. So it's not really so straightforward.

I think the issue with new graduates or young professionals is most don't have much to add beyond the basics (PA school + undergrad, significant clinical rotations, previous work (RN/CNA/Resp Tech, etc), and affiliations/licenses/awards received.) This should equal 1 page max.

 

So people are probably trying to stretch a resume into a CV; and I agree with post #5, that's how it should look. At this point in my career, I've been asked to forward a CV, but essentially (and by definition), all they get is a resume- but that's all I can offer! :)

Even a brand new grad can bulk up a cv to be a minimum of two pages, & I would venture to guess even to three pages with actual relevant work & academic content fairly easily. Resumes are one to two pages, & three pages is pushing it... On the other hand, a cv should definitely be at least two pages minimum.

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