andersenpa Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Just be aware that the same argument PAs make about NP knowledge gaps right out of training are the same arguments docs make about PAs (and NPs). PAs don't like it when docs come after us with that charge, and PAs should be mindful of doing the same. I've had the opportunity to work with a variety of NPs over the years and I simply disagree with stereotypes about their knowledge and abilities. We PAs make a decision each time we interact with NPs, or docs. We can take potshots (which does not make us look informed) or we can do and say what is factual and correct. The fact is NP training is inferior to PA training in terms of clinical hrs, and has a different "philosophy"....but does not bear out (with available evidence!) that NPs offer inferior care. Nobody knows what is needed to train providers for 2015. We use a 20th century model for a 21st century practice and it hasn't been anywhere near perfected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PACdan Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Just be aware that the same argument PAs make about NP knowledge gaps right out of training are the same arguments docs make about PAs (and NPs). PAs don't like it when docs come after us with that charge, and PAs should be mindful of doing the same. But aren't the physicians and their associations doing us a huge disservice by not vocally and more vigorously opposing the NP movements towards independence? They are leaving us stranded to justify our own place in medicine to the public. If we don't tout what separates us from NPs (at least initially), as they gain improved practice rights, it forces PAs into a defacto position of inferiority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2234leej Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 http://money.usnews.com/careers/best-jobs/rankings/the-100-best-jobsNot that this list holds a lot of merit, but PA's are ranked at #10 and NP's are #2 for "best 100 jobs" in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paula Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 http://money.usnews.com/careers/best-jobs/rankings/the-100-best-jobs Not that this list holds a lot of merit, but PA's are ranked at #10 and NP's are #2 for "best 100 jobs" in the US. That was last years news. Our ranking goes up, then down, then up, then down. translation: (PAs on viagra) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andersenpa Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 But aren't the physicians and their associations doing us a huge disservice by not vocally and more vigorously opposing the NP movements towards independence? They are leaving us stranded to justify our own place in medicine to the public. If we don't tout what separates us from NPs (at least initially), as they gain improved practice rights, it forces PAs into a defacto position of inferiority. Docs are opposing it, left and right. Several major societies have made statements either formally or in interviews that preserve the idea that docs are the only qualified team/medical home leaders. It's all over the popular medical press. Most of these statements are directed at NPs, and PAs get sucked into the wake of it. NPs are waving the banner of independence, which docs oppose, and when docs make their case they cite the inferiority of NP training. Since PAs have fewer educational hrs than docs, we get bundled together w/ NPs. Fortunately none of their claims are evidence based and much of it is preaching to their own choir. I agree about touting own own training, it's just a difficult environment to do it in as we have no lobby power, no budget, and way too much infighting in our ranks to show any appearance of solidarity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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