azucardulce Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 I've done some asking around to Derm PAs to get a sense for what is and isn't reasonable as a new grad hoping to get into dermatology. I have a potential offer from a doc, he hasn't yet mentioned numbers, but said during training he pays the PAs as RNs and does not put them on his license until they have completed the 6 mos to 1 yr training period, because frankly there is too great of a knowledge gap and it is a risk for him. I understand his reasoning, to some degree, as he referred to it, it would be a residency and he pays residency salaries during training. Just hoping to get some other input regarding this topic. I am not trying to make 6 figures, I really want to be well trained. However, I guess without any prior experience, where do I draw the line on what to accept? Also he mentioned I could train part-time with him, because he feels it is important to have internal medicine/family medicine experience too he suggested I get a PT general practice job to balance the pay and help bolster my experience. I'm assuming it is not common to get benefits in a PT job, but wanted to get feedback on any other concessions I might be able to ask for if I'm only with him part time? Any feedback is appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted September 28, 2015 Moderator Share Posted September 28, 2015 do not accept a job for rn wages. you are not "on his license". you have your own license and he is your collaborating physician. he will make a lot of money off you over the years(millions of dollars if you stay there a while). he needs to treat you well up front in return for more money later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiggySRNA Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 ...but said during training he pays the PAs as RNs ... lol.... Will he use this same "logic" to pay new RNs with CNA's salary for 6 mos.? They would laugh at him and walk away. Any potential PA should do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azucardulce Posted September 29, 2015 Author Share Posted September 29, 2015 EMED... the not putting me on "his license" was a strange statement, I have a license, and I couldn't make sense of what he was trying to say. Diggy...since this posting I talked to another derm pa in the area (8yrs experience) who said not to focus on the salary, but focus on the training, as salaries in this area (Carolinas) tend to be low "training/residency" type pay for new grads until they demonstrate they are profitable. I want to do derm but I also want to no be ripped off. I don't know what an RN salary is specifically, but I'm hoping to come to a sensible agreement in the in person interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delco714 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Does he mean he won't be your SP? And maybe you won't seeing and billing pt on your own for 6 mo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azucardulce Posted September 29, 2015 Author Share Posted September 29, 2015 I'm thinking that's what he was alluding to, but in other interviews I've had where they know I'm a new grad and I've asked about credentialing, NPI, etc, no one has ever made this sort of statement. It is very confusing. I want to clear this up in the interview, and thanks to all for responding so I can go in with my eyes wide open! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted September 29, 2015 Moderator Share Posted September 29, 2015 rn salaries typically range 25-35 dollars/hr. this is an insulting range for any pa. I wouldn't even go to an interview with this guy. if he's not willing to pay you properly he clearly won't treat you with respect when it comes to anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MT2PA Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 If you want to do a derm residency to get training, find a real, established one. Or find a derm job with real on the job training. Any employer who suggests you get another job to make up for what they aren't paying you is a scam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted September 29, 2015 Moderator Share Posted September 29, 2015 Low pay and no benefits? run from this job. this is not a residency. a residency has defined goals and off-service rotations, not just a single doc who is full of himself. I wouldn't even interview with this clown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyM2 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Also, a real residency from a respected institution is an investment in your education that should help you get better and higher paying jobs down the road. All this job does for your resume is to say you had a routine, low paying job. Also, please realize that most employers consider training to be an investment THEY make in their employees because well trained employees are worth more to them, do a superior job, and have fewer problems. i.e. make fewer mistakes. Furthermore, is it six months or one year. It isn't both. There's a big difference and I'll bet he has the latter in mind. Finally, what training will you get? Will he really mentor you, get you involved in more complex procedures, and really help you to develop skills or will you just be doing skin tags, acne and warts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevencd Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Maybe you've already have an answer in your heart. By the way, you can also consider these suggestions above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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