Jump to content

EM Residency question...


Recommended Posts

I have been gathering info to apply for EM fellowships when my program graduates in December of this year. There are several programs I am interested in that I haven't found much info on. I did try a search of this site. There is plenty of info here and elsewhere about Albany and Iowa and it's a no-brainer to apply to these. I am also looking at several others and was wondering if anyone has any insight/info on these:

 

TeamHealth fellowship in OKC

Carilion Clinic

Eastern Virginia Medical School

 

I'm aware some of these programs are fairly new and may not have many graduates but I would appreciate any info that could be passed along.

 

Cook County sounds good as well once they are accepting apps again.

 

Thanks in advance for the info.

  • Upvote 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

Well I heard from a couple of folks via email and PM and the EM residency at Carilion Clinic sounds pretty good. Anybody else have any info on the EM residencies at EVMS or TeamHealth they might want to share? Thanks in advance.

Link to post
Share on other sites

E, Arrowhead and Mayo are on my list in the last few days. I'll have to look into Einstein more. Thanks!

 

I'm sure most of the two dozen or so fellowships offered are great, but I still need to do my due diligence and be sure of what I'm applying for.

Link to post
Share on other sites
  • Moderator

E, Arrowhead and Mayo are on my list in the last few days. I'll have to look into Einstein more. Thanks!

 

I'm sure most of the two dozen or so fellowships offered are great, but I still need to do my due diligence and be sure of what I'm applying for.

True anomaly from here on the forum is an Einstein grad. talk a look at his posts for info on the residency. he speaks very highly of it.

Link to post
Share on other sites
  • Moderator

JMann- if you have any questions you can email me specifically.  

 

I'd be a tad weary of private fellowships/residencies, i.e. the TeamHealth one- I just don't know if it's a program geared towards you getting a quality education and experience versus just being groomed to work for that company. The hospital-based programs will always place academics first- this includes Einstein, Arrowhead, Albany, Staten Island, Regions, Johns Hopkins, Mayo and others

  • Upvote 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

Teach- According to their site, Hopkins takes 2 residents twice yearly. So 4/yr. I dont know much about their program but I can't imagine it's anything but excellent. The curriculum on their site looks to be on par with other fellowships. It is 18 months vs others that are 12 months. Check it for yourself here:

 

http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/johns_hopkins_bayview/education_training/residency_programs/emergency_medicine_physician_assistant_residency_program/program_details.html

Link to post
Share on other sites

PM me about the Carilion Clinic EM Fellowship for PAs & NPs.  We just started our third class.  It's been very successful (almost all are when they have great institutional support).

 

We also have Ortho and CV Surgery looking into starting their own here.

 

Exciting stuff.

  • Upvote 2
Link to post
Share on other sites

Anyone who has applied/looked into EM residencies- are they very difficult to get in to? What do they look for in applicants? Do you think PA school you attend impacts your chances? I am from Maryland, so would love to do a residency liked Hopkins' but there aren't many PA schools in this area and I am wondering if I go to a local CC based program, will I still have a chance at residencies? Any thoughts?

Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 2 months later...

Are there any graduates of the Arrowhead EM Residency on the board?  Is it truly quality training or merely grooming for CEP?  High competition with med students for procedures?  Fast track only?  I'm curious.  Seems to be the only option for EM residency in CA.

Link to post
Share on other sites

On the topic of EM residencies- does anyone know what Johns Hopkins residency is like? Does it have a good reputation? How many residents do these programs typically accept?

 

I can't say I know first-hand, but I interviewed there and was able to talk to the current residents at JH.  It was a good-looking program, the ER is recently renovated, and the staff are highly respected/credentialed, and all very much care about academics as well as patient care.

However, it's important to note that you will not be at the main JH campus, you'll be at the Bayview campus across town.  This means that any major trauma will most likely go to the main campus and you'll never see it.  The only thing they mentioned that DOES consistently come to Bayview is burns.  So take that for what it's worth.

 

It wasn't my top pick.  However, some people may like it more just based on reputation and location.

 

 

Anyone who has applied/looked into EM residencies- are they very difficult to get in to? What do they look for in applicants? Do you think PA school you attend impacts your chances? I am from Maryland, so would love to do a residency liked Hopkins' but there aren't many PA schools in this area and I am wondering if I go to a local CC based program, will I still have a chance at residencies? Any thoughts?

 

I don't think PA school attended makes an appreciable difference, unless you apply to a program that favors their own students (which shouldn't happen and honestly I haven't really seen).  PA school GPA, personal statement, and letters would definitely count for more in my opinion.  I absolutely would lot let your choice of program deter you from applying to a particular residency.  

 

As far as how hard they are to get into right now, I wouldn't say overly difficult.  I'm not sure how many applicants there are total, but programs generally interview 3 to 5 times as many candidates as residency spots.  This may seem like not great odds, but remember that candidates often apply to multiple programs, and there's always the possibility they'll change their mind and take a job instead.

 

It gets to be a pretty small group that goes around interviewing to different programs.  I ran into the same people at multiple interviews.

  • Upvote 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

I want to throw my two cents in as to Hopkins. I worked at the main hospital in the adult ED as a CNA/tech for 3 years. Now, they have a new building, and I left there about 7 years ago, but when I was there, no PA worked the main side of the adult ED. They worked urgent care only and had no response in trauma or codes that came to the ED.

 

Now, I took ABLS at Bayview, and spent some time there working with an Air Force training unit. Bayview is the Hopkins campus on the far east side where the residency program is. I saw PAs working the main side and burn unit, though I don't know if they were residents or not. Additionally, there is more than enough trauma in Baltimore that the two level 1 centers (Hopkins and University) stay busy, as do the level 2s (including Bayview).

 

Forget about the program not being at the main Hopkins campus. You would likely get little from the ED there (The eye clinic may be a different story, they were a world unto them selves and pretty damn good at it). Bayview had an excellent facility when I was there, and would be a much better set up for a PA residency.

 

Just my $0.02.

 

Oh, if I went ED after this journey was done, I would apply there. For what its worth.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Are there any graduates of the Arrowhead EM Residency on the board?  Is it truly quality training or merely grooming for CEP?  High competition with med students for procedures?  Fast track only?  I'm curious.  Seems to be the only option for EM residency in CA.

I'm not a graduate of their program, but I did apply and started the interview process. When I got into Albany, I withdrew my application. I did have the chance to meet and hang out with the director of the Arrowhead program during the EM Academy in Las Vegas a few weeks ago. He was super personable and very passionate about post graduate training. From everything I've heard from my own program director and what he was saying, it sounds like a really strong program. He is all about supporting his residents and getting them the best possible education. His graduates seem to land some pretty sweet jobs after finishing up that program. It's definitely a top-tier program and not just a CEP internship.

  • Upvote 2
Link to post
Share on other sites

I want to throw my two cents in as to Hopkins. I worked at the main hospital in the adult ED as a CNA/tech for 3 years. Now, they have a new building, and I left there about 7 years ago, but when I was there, no PA worked the main side of the adult ED. They worked urgent care only and had no response in trauma or codes that came to the ED.

 

Now, I took ABLS at Bayview, and spent some time there working with an Air Force training unit. Bayview is the Hopkins campus on the far east side where the residency program is. I saw PAs working the main side and burn unit, though I don't know if they were residents or not. Additionally, there is more than enough trauma in Baltimore that the two level 1 centers (Hopkins and University) stay busy, as do the level 2s (including Bayview).

 

Forget about the program not being at the main Hopkins campus. You would likely get little from the ED there (The eye clinic may be a different story, they were a world unto them selves and pretty damn good at it). Bayview had an excellent facility when I was there, and would be a much better set up for a PA residency.

 

Just my $0.02.

 

Oh, if I went ED after this journey was done, I would apply there. For what its worth.

 

 

I defer to your superior experience with Hopkins :D

Link to post
Share on other sites
  • Moderator

I'm not a graduate of their program, but I did apply and started the interview process. When I got into Albany, I withdrew my application. I did have the chance to meet and hang out with the director of the Arrowhead program during the EM Academy in Las Vegas a few weeks ago. He was super personable and very passionate about post graduate training. From everything I've heard from my own program director and what he was saying, it sounds like a really strong program. He is all about supporting his residents and getting them the best possible education. His graduates seem to land some pretty sweet jobs after finishing up that program. It's definitely a top-tier program and not just a CEP internship.

 

Arrowhead program is great- I'd echo all this as well

Link to post
Share on other sites

As of this year, Hopkins rotates through the new peds ED and the eye clinic on the main campus. The rest of the rotations are at the Bayview Campus. It is a well put together program with some good people. Do expect to work medicine resident hours in those 18 months. One unique thing is that due to the staggered starts, there are senior and junior PA residents, with increasing responsibilities. 

Link to post
Share on other sites

Good. The Wilmer eye clinic at the main campus is top notch. They have their own ED and are a specialty referral center through EMS for eye trauma. Peds ED I can't intelligently speak about, but they ran their traumas in our ED way back when, and knew their stuff.

Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 1 month later...
  • 6 months later...

JMann- if you have any questions you can email me specifically.  

 

I'd be a tad weary of private fellowships/residencies, i.e. the TeamHealth one- I just don't know if it's a program geared towards you getting a quality education and experience versus just being groomed to work for that company. The hospital-based programs will always place academics first- this includes Einstein, Arrowhead, Albany, Staten Island, Regions, Johns Hopkins, Mayo and others

 

Hi True Anomaly,

 

I tried sending you a private message regarding Einstein, but it seems to be that you cannot receive any new messages. Is there another way to reach you?

 

Thanks! 

Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Welcome to the Physician Assistant Forum! This website uses cookies to ensure you get the best experience on our website. Learn More