Guest Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Seriously, how many times will I be seeing this message? And even if I apply, I either get ignored or I get a response (which is actually impressive) saying the same as the job posting: "sorry no new grads!" To be fair, I have not graduated yet (that will be in December). As someone told me yesterday, I will get more offers when I actually graduate. I guess I would like to hear this from more people. Or, I would like to hear anything you have yo say really. By the way, I cannot move. I live in northern VA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocialMedicine Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 What area of medicine ? Esp if you are applying to work in a medicine saturated area do not be surprised (NYC, PA, etc) by this. Who wouldnt prefer someone with experience at the same salary ? Unless you offer something unique. I encourage all new grads to consider a residency program. It benefits the individual and the profession. An academic hospital system near me requires 3 years ED experience for PA's or completion of a residency. Yes it is a salary cut today but you likely have a career 30 years or longer ahead of you. And I hate when people say "thats why I became a PA to avoid residency" ... trust me, most PA residency are not that burdensome and most run 1 year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterallsummer Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 I had a similar experience when I first applied as I wanted to go into critical care or hospitalist. There were slim to none accepting without 2+ yrs exp even for FM gigs. And then some places would take a new grad but had minimal to no support anyway. It took me a while but I ended up getting to choose between two great jobs and am just now starting at one. I had my first interview within 45 days of applying (started 3-4 mo before graduating) and the interview for the job I took about a week before I took the pance. So don't despair you will get there I hope (not familiar with your demographics). And you can always go into a field besides your favorite to get that first year of experience. Anyway the no new grad places are probably not supportive anyway so really they're saving you the trouble of landing a job where you'd be thrown to the wolves anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PACdan Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 By the way, I cannot move. I live in northern VA. Cannot move or will not move? That aside, you're in a tight spot. As a longtime NoVA resident, I have zero desire to return there to practice upon completion of PA school. The COL is astronomically high, the traffic is miserable, and the pay for PAs is middle of the road (from those I know). Look as rural as possible, in outlying counties. You may have to commute. You also haven't mentioned what job types you're applying for... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 The IDEAL job would be surgery, but I have been applying everywhere, except for peds, obgyn, and psyc because I am realizing how hard it is to get hired in surgery. I cannot move and will not move. I absolutely love northern VA. I did not go to PA school and sacrifice so much money and been through so much stress to also leave the people I love behind and move to some rural area where I will be miserable. Noooo thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PACdan Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 I cannot move and will not move. I absolutely love northern VA. I did not go to PA school and sacrifice so much money and been through so much stress to also leave the people I love behind and move to some rural area where I will be miserable. Noooo thank you. Well, you're experiencing a consequence of not wanting to leave NoVA. There are many, many experienced providers in the region or those wanting to come to the area, available to hire. "Some rural area" was one of the main reasons for the founding of the PA profession. We were supposed to take those jobs. But I guess I got into this, with all the stress, and sacrificing so much money, with the expectation of moving to the desert when done. You'll get a job in NoVA eventually, but probably not in the specialty and/or the pay grade you want... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Well, you're experiencing a consequence of not wanting to leave NoVA. There are many, many experienced providers in the region or those wanting to come to the area, available to hire. "Some rural area" was one of the main reasons for the founding of the PA profession. We were supposed to take those jobs. But I guess I got into this, with all the stress, and sacrificing so much money, with the expectation of moving to the desert when done. You'll get a job in NoVA eventually, but probably not in the specialty and/or the pay grade you want... I think, you should wait for real stress of PA school that will happen in the next 2 years before you can really say "I hate nova, rural all the way!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PACdan Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 I think, you should wait for real stress of PA school that will happen in the next 2 years before you can really say "I hate nova, rural all the way!"Haha, yeah the NoVA/DC area does absolutely nothing to help my stress level; only adds to it. Being there causes my BP to go up. But to each his own. Good luck in your search. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MassPA-C Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 ugh. the dreaded "no new grads" response. It is worse when they say they will consider new grads, interview you, and then tell you they went with somone with more experience... Which happened to me a lot! But have no fear you will find a job! It might take you a while (and you will have a much better chance of interviews once you can click that you have a license on the online apps) but it will happen. I did not stay in the area I went to PA school, if I had I would have had a job no problem (I had many offers during my rotations) and many of my friends did stay in the area and easily found jobs. I would say for those of us who moved it took us all about 3-4 months to find a job and then add in the 6-8 weeks for credentialing before a start date. I eventually found a job in EM (which was my 1st choice), making great money, 2 subway stops from my house- so you can have it all you just have to keep looking (and be prepared to live for 3-6 months after graduation without an income)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PACProvider Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 PAs who are unwilling to move are committing career suicide. If you have a passion for a certain area of medicine and find the right job, forget about the bad location. Take the job, work two years and then take your pick of jobs. Use the free time in your new sh%thole to study. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinntsp Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Move and work somewhere else for a while or do a residency. Move back once you are no longer a new grad. Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quietmedic Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 My best advice: MAKE CONNECTIONS!!! The vast majority of new grads I was with got their job offers from clinical rotations. Make as many connections as you can. Ehrm, kiss as much gluteus maximus as you can. Get friendly with docs and chief PAs. Talk to HR when you are rotating. this is, by far, the best way to get a job upon graduation. I learned this the hard way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoRyou Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Network Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradtPA Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 The things that new grads tend to want are location, money, and specialty. If you find all three it's a dream job. If you find two of the three it's a great job. Often you can only find one of the three. If you are locking yourself into a location then you have to accept that there can be market saturation, high COL, and other market forces that mean a new grad is going to have a hard time finding s job that pays more than the minimum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardLPeeA Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Location, scope of practice, pay. Pick any 2 (maybe even one for my fellow new grads). But seriously, you haven't graduated yet, and haven't passed your boards. You're looking at least January to February before you actually have your license and are able to practice, so don't get discouraged if employers aren't taking you seriously yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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