New CME Requirements - Self-Assessment & PI CME

[Sirpaul1990 75]

In this article, I discuss all of the details you'll need to know about the two new CME requirements, including links to all resources you could ever need. In addition, I'll review other CME requirements for you, including general Category 1 and Category 2 CME in case you've forgotten or if you're new to the CME cycle process. Hopefully this clears up any confusion. Happy credentialing!

 

http://doseofpa.blogspot.com/2014/04/continuing-medical-education-cme-for.html

[EMEDPA 7,509]

Thanks for this. I have made this thread a permanent sticky.

[Guest Paula]

After doing all of that I should be able to take boards to become a family physician.  The requirements make my head spin and of course there is no stopping the train now. They make it sound so easy........just do this....audit 15 charts.....enter into a data base....evaluate the data.....work towards improving it......audit charts again....enter the data .....and see if you've had any quality improvements.     Who has time for all that busy work??????    And pay some (more) money to AAFP for the metrics.  I do not support AAFP as they ultimately don't support us in their leadership.

 

Sirpaul has put together a nice synopsis.  I take PANRE in 18 months or so and it will be the last time. 

[maryfran123 109]

Paula, agree this seems more labor intensive for very little gain in clinical acumen.

More $$$ and time to cross more "T's" and dot more "i's"

and for what purpose?

 

Is this going to garner us any more "validation" from the physican colleges, from the public, from our attendings??

 

Ugh..

[Guest Paula]

Nope, won't make a bit of difference. My collaborating physician is a GP.  He is not required to do any of the above and has less CME requirements than I do.  It irks me.  I just have to bite the bullet and jump through the hoops though or I will lose my ability to practice. 

[EMEDPA 7,509]

Nope, won't make a bit of difference. My collaborating physician is a GP.  He is not required to do any of the above and has less CME requirements than I do.  It irks me.  I just have to bite the bullet and jump through the hoops though or I will lose my ability to practice. 

the only np in our group never has to retest and has to do 100 hrs of cme every 5 years.

[Joelseff 1,274]

Nope, won't make a bit of difference. My collaborating physician is a GP. He is not required to do any of the above and has less CME requirements than I do. It irks me. I just have to bite the bullet and jump through the hoops though or I will lose my ability to practice.

Sonetimes it feels like these hoops they make us jump through are douse in gasoline and set ablaze!

 

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[Guest Paula]

Hot dawg!  I'm on FIRE!!!!

[whoRyou 257]

Someone say GAS or FIRE?!?  

[Joelseff 1,274]

Lol "now thats a fire!" "Roll Charlie around now..."

 

The youngins might not get this reference...

 

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[whoRyou 257]

Lol "now thats a fire!" "Roll Charlie around now..."

 

The youngins might not get this reference...

 

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HAHA Eddie Murphy! LOL That is when he was funny, especially on SNL as Mr. Robinson's  Neighborhood. Now that is a different story

[Joelseff 1,274]

Yah hes just weird now lol

 

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[whoRyou 257]

Weird is an understatement, I think actually he is broke now ... Go figure  Remember this song? Party All The Time

[Joelseff 1,274]

And now hes singing reggae...like on SNL in 82 lol

 

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[paporzelt 14]

I don't understand why everyone makes such a huge deal about CME's. They are ridiculously easy to obtain and even for free.

Mycme.com has a ton of free CME.

Go to one confrence every other yeah and your category 1's should be all but covered.

ACLS/PALS/BLS all have to be decertified every 2 years. That's 8 hours per PALS or ACLS- that's 16 hours right there.

Category 2 are simple. Listen to a podcast, read an article, have a convo about new updates in medicine.

Log stuff.

It's not nearly as hard as say....PA school. Get over it people. It keeps you sharp and informed.

[EMEDPA 7,509]

I don't understand why everyone makes such a huge deal about CME's. They are ridiculously easy to obtain and even for free.

Mycme.com has a ton of free CME.

Go to one confrence every other yeah and your category 1's should be all but covered.

ACLS/PALS/BLS all have to be Recertified every 2 years. That's 8 hours per PALS or ACLS- that's 16 hours right there.

Category 2 are simple. Listen to a podcast, read an article, have a convo about new updates in medicine.

Log stuff.

It's not nearly as hard as say....PA school. Get over it people. It keeps you sharp and informed.

have you seen the new 2014/2015 requirements? it's a lot more than just rack up hours. you have to complete PROJECTS. someone I know who did one of these are part of the pilot project with nccpa said a single project(and you have to do several every 10 yr cycle) was more work than their master's thesis. also most folks in the pilot dropped out because it was an unreasonable amt of work. and yet they still adopted the process....

[rev ronin 4,373]

I get a traditional 6-year recert in 2018, and don't have to use the new process until 2028.  I expect they will have the process figured out by that time.

[Guest Paula]

I thought the new PI CME requirements are starting now for everybody.  My next recert is in 2015 but I think I need to start the new CME process now.  Right? 

[Guest Paula]

I checked my record....New CME requirements go into effect for me May 2016-Dec 2018.  My recert exam can be either in 2015 or 2016 and I am assuming it is for the 10 year certification.  It better be.  I still find this confusing on the NCCPA website. 

[EMEDPA 7,509]

I did my 3rd panre in january (year 5) so my next cycle starts next year(2015) with the new requirements and I next take panre 2025.

[Guest Paula]

I did my 3rd panre in january (year 5) so my next cycle starts next year(2015) with the new requirements and I next take panre 2025.

 

Yay!  That means when I recert in 2015 or 16 it will be my last one as I plan on retiring at the end of 10 years.  I think NCCPA should give PAs lifetime certification upon retirement and if we continue to practice just have to do the CMEs. 

[GetMeOuttaThisMess 1,554]

^^^. I'm with you, in more ways than one (retired).

[maryfran123 109]

I don't understand why everyone makes such a huge deal about CME's. They are ridiculously easy to obtain and even for free.

Mycme.com has a ton of free CME.

Go to one confrence every other yeah and your category 1's should be all but covered.

ACLS/PALS/BLS all have to be decertified every 2 years. That's 8 hours per PALS or ACLS- that's 16 hours right there.

Category 2 are simple. Listen to a podcast, read an article, have a convo about new updates in medicine.

Log stuff.

It's not nearly as hard as say....PA school. Get over it people. It keeps you sharp and informed.

 

 

 

 Many of us that have responded to this post have been PA-C's for a decade or more, I am going on 27yrs, so we are quite familar with CME's and how to obtain them. Thanks for the info though never realized how easy it was to get all those CME's and log them...sarcasm fully intended.

 

The issue is not the CME's. The issue is the new requirement for BOTH self assessment testing AND a PI project. It is labor and time intensive with no clear benefit to our clinical accumen, job, or career.

 

Speaking for myself but knowing that many of the other "old timers" on this forum are also involved in many non clinical duties such as hospital/department PI/QI, research, medical staff committees and a myriad of other non clinical responsibilities we have to fit in ontop of our clinical jobs, this is nothing more than another item on an already much too long "to do" list for most PA's.

 

 

[mainiac 22]

Unfortunately, I'm one of the few PA's that are in the new Process NOW!!!!

 

I just looked online at NCCPA website; & it looks like a Money Maker for someone!!! & We are gonna be the Payer!!!

ONLY approved SA or PI's are through NCCPA website!

 

I checked these out! OMG! Take about expensive!

I have NO Idea how I am gonna make this crap happen!

 

Every 2 years you must get a total of 20 of your 50 Cat.1 CME's with SA/PI's.

Ahhh, yes you can get 20 or one in one cycle or a mixture of either that equal 20cme;

BUT at the end of the 4th cycle you MUST have 40 of BOTH!!!!

 

Oh, so I dont do any clinical work! I work strictly in the OR.

NCCPA's answer, "there working on developing it"!!!! Thats great :( Thanks!

[GetMeOuttaThisMess 1,554]

I was under the impression that online Cat. 1 quizzes would qualify as SA (I plead guilty that I haven't looked at it that closely yet since this won't kick in for me till 1/1/15 after passing PANRE a year early and I've already have my CME in place for 12/31/14 deadline).