Moderator EMEDPA Posted November 28, 2013 Moderator Share Posted November 28, 2013 interesting study: Vitamin D Levels, Hospital Infections LinkedPublished: Nov 27, 2013By Cole Petrochko, Staff Writer, MedPage TodayReviewed by Robert Jasmer, MD; Associate Clinical Professor of Medicine, University of California, San Francisco Action PointsPreoperative vitamin D blood levels were significantly and inversely associated with risk for hospital-acquired infections after gastric bypass surgery.Note that the results suggest that preoperative vitamin D levels may be a modifiable risk factor for postoperative nosocomial infections.Preoperative vitamin D blood levels were significantly and inversely associated with risk for hospital-acquired infections after gastric bypass surgery, researchers found. Among obese patients with 25-hydroxyvitamin D levels lower than 30 ng/mL, there was a three-fold risk for a hospital-acquired infection after surgery versus patients whose vitamin D levels were 30 ng/mL or higher (adjusted odds ratio 3.05, 95% CI 1.34-6.94, according to Sadeq Quraishi, MD, of Massachusetts General Hospital (MGH) in Boston, and colleagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discogenic Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 From the same group: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23787198 Low vitamin D associated with increased all-cause mortality and infection. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21926604 Similar findings in critical care setting They are big into vitamin D and cancer also. Cool stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdenning Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 I check vitamin d levels on almost everyone because Levels are almost always low in patients with any chronic disease or taking certain kinds of medications ( mostly anticonvulsants in my case). the trick is making sure you've hot an acceptable diagnosis code to check- most insurers won't cover the cost of the test without an osteopenia or osteoporosis code... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discogenic Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 I check vitamin d levels on almost everyone because Levels are almost always low in patients with any chronic disease or taking certain kinds of medications ( mostly anticonvulsants in my case). the trick is making sure you've hot an acceptable diagnosis code to check- most insurers won't cover the cost of the test without an osteopenia or osteoporosis code... For those not in the osteopenia/osteoporosis risk category, is there a workaround to get the D test paid for? Are you making any particular D supplementation recommendations for those you don't test? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted November 29, 2013 Author Moderator Share Posted November 29, 2013 my pcp (in the pacific nw) does not test anyone and just assumes EVERYONE here is low and recommends an otc daily supplement. I work nights and sleep days so know I would be low without a supplement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliyoussefi Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 my pcp (in the pacific nw) does not test anyone and just assumes EVERYONE here is low and recommends an otc daily supplement. I work nights and sleep days so know I would be low without a supplement. This is what I do, unless you've got horrible osteoporosis and we want to push a high dose of vitamin D and correct a very low level, then I check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discogenic Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 What dosages are you taking/recommending? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator EMEDPA Posted November 30, 2013 Author Moderator Share Posted November 30, 2013 my personal regimen wintertime 5000/day remainder of the year 4000/day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliyoussefi Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 my personal regimen wintertime 5000/day remainder of the year 4000/day this and or just give them 52 50000/week and be done with refill request for the year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UGoLong Posted December 1, 2013 Share Posted December 1, 2013 We usually check and give 6-8 weeks at 50,000 units per week, and an ongoing 2000 units daily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discogenic Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Prescription vitamin D2 is way more expensive than OTC D3 and arguably the less preferred form. But I guess it's easier to just prescribe this than to leave it to patients and/or stock and sell your own product (does anyone even do this?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpRegulated Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Interesting Dec.6 write-up in The Lancet, raising the question (based on recent research) of whether low vitamin D levels are the result of illness, rather than the other way around. I.e. it could be that those with increased rates of post-op infections are more susceptible due to immune dysfuncton related to chronic or acute illness, and that low vitamin D is merely an indicator, rather than a cause, of that. http://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587%2813%2970164-5/fulltext Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discogenic Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Interesting Dec.6 write-up in The Lancet, raising the question (based on recent research) of whether low vitamin D levels are the result of illness, rather than the other way around. I.e. it could be that those with increased rates of post-op infections are more susceptible due to immune dysfuncton related to chronic or acute illness, and that low vitamin D is merely an indicator, rather than a cause, of that. http://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587%2813%2970164-5/fulltext Although it's just showing up in the Lancet now, it's not a new idea. A guy named Trevor Marshall has been promoting this idea for years now, although it hasn't gotten much traction. You can google 'Marshall Protocol' if interested. Much of the vitamin D literature is observational/epidemiological, and we need more interventional trials. But there are interventional trials out there that show benefit, so I'm not sure vitamin D is simply a disease marker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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