svasan1 Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 same same. I applied last year and they sent me that same email every month until January, when they rejected me. Hopefully this year will be different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktcan10 Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 same same. I applied last year and they sent me that same email every month until January, when they rejected me. Hopefully this year will be different Does anybody have any information about people NOT getting this email? I just spoke with admissions about a week ago, and they indicated that they were still reviewing my application, but I didn't get this email that everyone else got. I'm wondering if that means that I am no longer under consideration...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torshi Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 I didn't get the email either yet. The admissions counselor told me to send my updated transcript asap for admission review, so i'm assuming they're waiting on that for me before they look at my app - not sure. I'm from Texas btw - are most of y'all Cali residents? Anyone know what the acceptance rate is for OOS applicants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktcan10 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 I didn't get the email either yet. The admissions counselor told me to send my updated transcript asap for admission review, so i'm assuming they're waiting on that for me before they look at my app - not sure. I'm from Texas btw - are most of y'all Cali residents? Anyone know what the acceptance rate is for OOS applicants Did you call and ask what they needed to continue review, or did they call/email you asking you to send the transcript? I believe many of us are CA residents, but I know they don't offer preference for in state / out of state applicants. Good luck to you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choco86 Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 I got an email from the admission counselor (Jeanene White) saying: "I am pleased to inform you that your file is complete and ready for evvaluation by the department. After your file has been evaluated, you will be contacted by phone or e-mail regarding your status". I guess now I just have to wait!! ANyone else get the same email? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torshi Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 ktcan10 I've been speaking to Michael by email, an admissions counselor I believe. He's very nice keeping me up too date as well. I will call tomorrow to make sure they received my summer transcript as well as ask if that's what they're waiting for or what. Thank you and good luck to you as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktcan10 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 @Torshi, thanks for the post! I finally did receive my email saying that I am still under consideration, and that they will be updating me monthly until March (lol), since they have now received my summer transcript. Best of luck to you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uscbigdawg Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z PA-C Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Pulled my application from there after attending the open house. May I ask why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uscbigdawg Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabs15 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 how so? would you mind explaining since I am considering applying to the school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whynotsilicon Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Yeah, I was hoping for more specifics. After reading this I looked over their site and couldn't find anything that stood out as a red flag. Being an out of state applicant, I can't afford to attend their open house either. Would much appreciate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timon Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Strongly disagreed with their teaching philosophy and selection process methods. Yeah, I was hoping for more specifics. After reading this I looked over their site and couldn't find anything that stood out as a red flag. - First time PANCE pass rate is 84 http://www.westernu.edu/allied-health-mspas-indicators - They interview candidates purely based off of GPA. They interview everyone with a 3.4 cGPA or higher and then work their way down the list. - The interview style is typically very abrasive (reported to me by many people who've been interviewed) - They've mentioned in their career day that they prefer students that do not have any prior health care experience - There is no dedicated PA area for the program on campus - The class sizes are very large The list can be longer and/or vary but these are some reasons why people that I know who were either accepted to this program declined their acceptance or people who applied to the program withdrew their application. Basically its the same for many people who don't mesh with a particular program. Everyone has their own reason to apply to a program or rather to withdraw an application from a program. Which is why it is important to make sure that you're not only a good match for the program, but that the program is a good match for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Z PA-C Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 - They've mentioned in their career day that they prefer students that do not have any prior health care experience I did not get this impression when I went to the open house, just that they will consider students on an even playing field regardless of health care experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z PA-C Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 * They made it very clear that they are to train you to do family medicine, and family medicine alone. He made it quite clear that if you want to do specialties that you should go to another school. Again, our strength is in our flexibility and to hinder that does a disservice to the students and the profession. * You have elective rotations, but do not have free choice of what those are. They ensure that you do not repeat specific rotations and monitor that you are still focused on family medicine and not a specialty. As for this statement, I would really like to hear from current WesternU student. I attended the open house as well (the one in June) and again felt like I got completely different information about specialties and electives. 98% of the PA programs place emphasis on primary care, that is what PAs are trained for. WesternU allows students (3) elective rotations which is more than many other programs I've looked into. The PA student who I spoke with at the open house said he was about to do his third elective rotation in orthopedics which is the field he wanted to work in. I don't know if this was just a special case or what but now I'm quite confused about what to think.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timon Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 While Western is definitely not my first choice, I did not get this impression when I went to the open house, just that they will consider students on an even playing field regardless of health care experience which has both positive and negative implications The faculty member who addressed everyone during preview day in the auditorium specifically stated that they prefer students without healthcare experience because they feel people develop habits that are difficult to break and would rather teach you everything that you need to know. I'm pretty sure I didn't misunderstand what he was saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktcan10 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 The faculty member who addressed everyone during preview day in the auditorium specifically stated that they prefer students without healthcare experience because they feel people develop habits that are difficult to break and would rather teach you everything that you need to know. I'm pretty sure I didn't misunderstand what he was saying. May as well throw in my two cents...I met with a faculty member who went on a 20-minute rant about how much they hated EMTs and how they were all lazy and had bad habits and were arrogant and thought they knew everything. Yes, these are direct quotes, and said in front of a room full of veteran EMTs, paramedics, and other healthcare professionals. It's an unprofessional generalization, not to mention somewhat surprising and insulting to me (an EMT with five years of experience, and, in my personal opinion, neither lazy nor arrogant), and it left me with a bad taste in my mouth for Western. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whynotsilicon Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Wow, thanks for the information! Having 4 years experience in the hospital, looks like I wont get an interview. I hope people will read this and think twice about applying. Seems to be a waste of money if you have experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z PA-C Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Z PA-C Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 98% huh? You have data backing that up? EVERY program that I applied to openly acknowledges that a key strength to a PA is the profession's versatility. There is a need EVERYWHERE, not just family medicine. The program director, not a subordinate, flat out said, they are there to train you to do family medicine and ONLY family medicine. That stance is something that I cannot support. I threw that number out there because only 8 programs out of the 180ish PA schools offer specialty residencies post grad so the rest are training PAs to have a strong background in primary care. Someone please correct me if I am wrong but I think you are confusing primary care with family practice. Primary care includes internal med, pediatrics, family, ob/gyn and some even consider general surg and EM in this group. These primary care specialties are the foundation which I think all medical providers regardless of specialty should have a strong understanding of and are why they are found in all clinical rotations for every PA program. No program is able to tell you you are not able to go into a specialty after you get your license that is your decision but I get where you're coming from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevada5500 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 I just received a status update stating "After initial review of your application, the Admissions Committee has opted to continue to review your application for the Fall 2014 entering class." Has anybody else on here received the same update? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktcan10 Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Yes, most of us received that email, I believe. I had to call and ask, but then they sent the email that same day. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optimistic Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Hey guys! I am a current 1 yr PA WesternU student, and I just want to put in my two cents. Yes, this program does not emphasize previous experience, quoting that their experience has shown that, after the didactic portion, a student without experience has a very similar knowledge base as those with it. That being said, it doesn't hurt you- I would say over half of my class has experience ranging from military medic, to EMT, to MA. However, if it is important to you that your class all come from a heavy medical background, there are many other programs that will better suit your needs. As far as rotations go, you get 3 electives and you MAY choose those particular locations as long as the school is able to properly set it up, and you are in good standing with the program. If your GPA is too low, you have to stay close (the requirement is either 3.0 or 3.5; I can't remember without going back to check). Also, you CAN repeat rotations for your 3 electives. The rotation type determines the number of repeats you may do. Lastly, the poor pass rate from last year and 2011,prompted them to drastically change their interview process. We will see if this helps, but they are aware of the problem and are working to address it. Good luck to all those applying, where ever that may be :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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