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  1. Hello World, I've been struggling so hard with picking a major. I'm in my first semester of University and I just decided I want to go Pre-Pa. I was talking to a family friend who is a PA to see what he would think is best for me to go into for a major. He mentioned computer science and it got me thinking. They make lots of money and given that the metaverse is an up and coming innovation there will be a lot of computer science careers out there. Also, there was a thought of psychology which has a lot of the pre reqs I would need for PA School the only problem is the job outlook for psychology majors isn't that good. My main problem is which one would look better for getting into PA school. It's my dream to become a Aesthetics Derm PA and I don't want a simple "wrong" pick of a major get in the way of my dream. Let me know your experiences and what you guys think. Thank you!
  2. Hello, I am a high school senior that is interested in becoming a PA. I‘m currently in the process of applying to colleges and would like to know what major would be the best for me to pursue. For a little bit of background, I had originally planned on majoring in Biology because I read that it was the most common route taken for PA school( I’m also quite fascinated with biology itself). However, after researching again, I now plan on getting a BSN so that I'll have a backup job in the medical field just in case everything doesn't go as planned. I've read that majoring in Nursing unfortunately doesn't look good because PA schools will question the student's commitment to the PA profession. Personally, I am certain that I want to become a Physician Assistant but I also want to be able to secure a job in the medical field after receiving at least my bachelors. It also seems as though the medical-related jobs that I could get with a Biology degree wouldn't be very patient care related, which is something that I wish to have in a job. Overall, I feel as though I would prosper in a more health-centered major because it relates more to my passion. So ultimately, my questions are: 1. Between majoring in Biology and Nursing, which is the more advantageous route to take in order to become a PA? 2. Is there any true disadvantage to having a BSN when it comes to applying to PA schools? 3. Are there any other majors that would be a better choice to study than Biology or Nursing? I would greatly appreciate it if anyone can get help me out!
  3. Sums it up far better then I could ever hope to..... well done Dave And BTW - he is running for AAPA Board (If you really want to make SURE he gets it vote for ONLY him!) https://www.doximity.com/doc_news/v2/entries/6948772 The PA Doctorate: Is It Needed or Not? Clinician Today · March 17, 2017 Original Article 2 2 21 It is ten years from now. You are a patient. Or, better yet, your two-year-old daughter is a patient. You know just a little about medical people, including that the pharmacist you see, the physical therapist you see, and the NP you see all practice at the “doctorate” level. You appreciate that, and you expect people who make decisions that affect your child’s health to practice at that level. Do you want to see “Ms. Assistant” or “Dr. Practitioner”? Not knowing anything more, I know who I would want. I know who I would pick to guide my healthcare decisions, and my daughter’s. If I am a PA, I have to realize that sooner or later, all “advanced” health professionals will have a doctorate. Do I want to find myself in the above situation? PAs spend more hours on their clinical training than almost any other profession, and they at least deserve what PTs, OTs, DATs, AudDs, PharmDs, DNPs, and others achieve for their many hours spent learning. This is especially true when most PA doctorates will be earned after even more hours in on-the-job clinical training with an emphasis on leadership and/or education. You are an insurance company. For decades, you have let all other professions know that people who practice at the doctoral level will have a much easier job being credentialed for reimbursement than those with master’s degrees. I am the company, and in some cases, unfortunately, I get to choose. Why not do what has been the customary way to measure a professional’s competence, and ask if they have a doctorate? PTs, OTs, audiologists, dentists, and others have found this out. So will we. You are a legislator, and PAs are coming in asking for full practice authority. Or, let’s bring it down a notch. The legislators realize you can write orders for other professions. PT, OT, and speech therapy order different therapies. You choose the medications people take for their illnesses, telling the pharmacists what to dispense for them. At the hospital you write “orders” (a poor team-based word) for nurses, nutritionists, and others. Sooner or later, the logical question will be, “How can you expect, as a master’s-prepared professional, to tell four doctorates what to do?” One profession or another will balk. In many states, the podiatrist is now the podiatric physician, the optometrist is the optometric physician, and the chiropractor is the chiropractic physician. Yes, they changed their titles to help elevate their status. This is not going away. The problem is the law says you are a physician(’s) assistant. Our scope of practice is and will continue to be broader than the above professionals’, yet to insurance companies, legislators, Medicare, and patients, it seems logical that we would be “assisting” them. A doctorate would help even the playing field and aid in helping people understand that we do much more than what our title implies. (So would a title change, honestly, but that’s a conversation for another day.) This is not about, “If you wanted to be a doctor, you should have gone to medical school.” This is very much about a profession that either fits into the 21st century and recognizes that it is no longer 1975, or a profession that will stay misunderstood and undervalued for what it brings to the table. It is very much about a train that has left the station. Ask the pharmacist, or the dentist, or the psychologist, or the chiropractor, or the DPT, or the DNP, or the AudD whether they want to be a physician, and the answer will be “No, why?” Why would PAs not want to be PAs educated to the highest level they could be? Twenty years ago, I thought wanting a doctorate was more ego than anything else. It had no place in my clinical world. It would not get me a larger paycheck. I became a PA in part to show the world that “nondoctors” could deliver the same care as “doctors” did. I know how good we are and never wanted to take a boat the Caribbean to become a physician. I bleed PA blue. I thought only academic PAs and NPs needed doctorates. But times change. Professions change. People change. We are, like it or not, part of many professions that practice in the same or similar spaces, and if we are expected to advance, we had better at least consider change. Especially when we are the only profession ignoring that change. Again, ten years from now, we will be the “odd ones out.” We are not making the rules, only following the same ones followed by almost all other professions. Healthcare changes, and like it or not, we must change also. I have never met a PA or NP who has obtained a doctorate and has not said that it made them a better all-around clinician. It filled in some holes. It gave them greater understanding and appreciation. I hear these sentiments often. I believe them. The transition for the PA profession to become a doctorate profession will take decades. It will hardly affect most PAs today unless they are in their first or second decade of practice. Some may have to eventually do “at work, on the job” bridge programs. The NP profession has tried to push the doctorate as the initial degree earned at graduation from NP school, with mixed results. We should learn from them. Keep programs at the master’s level, adding clinical doctorates earned through more clinical experience plus an emphasis on other tracks. NPs are already feeling some positives from their shift. Doctorates are opening doors and giving them seats at the table. Doctorates expand their understanding of topics not stressed in NP school. Doctorates open their eyes. Doctorates are not needed because those professions need to compete with, or want to “be,” physicians, but because professions need to let the public, legislators, insurance companies, and other health professionals know that their postgraduate education offers the level of education and sophistication needed to take on the responsibility they have. Doctorates give that guarantee. Eventually, PAs will realize this. Dave Mittman, PA, DFAAPA, has been a PA (and NP) leader for more than 39 years. He co-founded the LIU PA Program student society in 1973, was president of the New York State Society of PAs in 1979, and served on the American Academy of Physician Assistants (AAPA) Board of Directors from 1981 to 1983. Dave has also won the AAPA Public Education award for leading the march in Trenton, NJ, to establish PA practice. Dave was introduced to medicine as a medic in the USAF. He later had the distinction of becoming the first PA in the USAF Reserves permitted to practice.
  4. Hi all! I need some help. I'm in my last year of undergrad finishing my bachelors with a psychology with applied behavior analysis major, human sexuality minor, and women and gender studies minor. I have a heavy social science background as you can see. I recently realized that I would like to change my career option and become a PA. I'm very limited though, it's my last semester and I only have 16 credits left which is just what I could use to complete pre-req's at the University of Detroit Mercy for their program which are: Nutrition Medical Ethics Microbiology Physiology Developmental Psychology Statistics I have developmental psychology down and statistics, so all I would need is 12 credits to complete these pre-reqs. I could honestly take these classes this summer, but some of them are online. I also have to take the GRE, but my GPA is a 3.85 and I do see it going up to a 3.9 at the end of this semester. I am also in the process of looking for direct care hours at a hospital. My questions are: 1. Even without a hard science background would I still stand a chance? 2. I am a Michigan resident and this school is only about 20 minutes away which is great for me, but I am only applying to this program since others have a lot more pre-reqs and I don't have time, should I just let this idea go or just try? 3. Would taking classes online be seen as bad? (Such as physio, microbiology, and medical ethics) 3. Help?!?!?! I need some insight, please be honest with me. The reason for the sudden career change is the fact that while being a mental health provider was my ultimate goal, I also need to make a living to live a comfortable life. School for psychology is expensive, long, and very research oriented. I think being a PA is pretty similar to my goal and would be very rewarding as well. Thanks for your time, I appreciate any help at all. If you're currently in the program I would love to hear from your application process and degree experience. Please do email me at mtran4@emich.edu.
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