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  1. I’ve recently been offered a position as a dialysis tech in an outpatient center. I shadowed the other day and the staff seamed friendly. My main duties would be weighing patients, cannulating them and setting up the machines, drawing labs, and monitoring their vitals throughout treatment. This all would be under the supervisions of an RN. I would work 8 and 10 hour shifts. I was hoping someone who has worked as a dialysis tech or knows someone who has could give me feedback about their experiences. I do already have 2 years experience volunteering as an EMT-A on a fairly busy service and plan on continuing to do so. I have also been invited to interview for a medical assistant position at an urgent care, but the interview is after the deadline to decide if I’m going to accept the dialysis position. The pros I see in working as a dialysis tech: Getting to know my patients and their cases. Experience in the chronic disease side of medicine. Cons: It’s could be repetitive work and I would really only learn about kidney disease.
  2. Hello everyone, I am currently in my third year as a biology undergraduate major at the City College of New York. I graduate next year and wanted to ask for opinions on whether or not I should apply to PA programs immediately after graduation. At the moment I have a 3.91 GPA, straight As in my science courses, have shadowed one PA for a few hours, and have over 200 hours volunteering at an ENT hospital. However, my plan after graduation is to work as an EMT to gain credible health care experience to put on my application. In your opinions, are my current credentials sufficient enough for PA programs to consider me as a serious candidate? Or should I take a gap year to focus on obtaining more experience to put on my application? If so, any advice or recommendations? Any responses are much appreciated. Thanks!
  3. Hi everyone! My name is Rachel and I am an upcoming PA student starting in May 2019 at USF's PA program in Tampa, Fl. I got my clinical experience first working as an EMT for an ambulance company, but later switching to being a medical assistant for a private practice dermatology experience in Plant City, FL (about 30 min from Tampa). I gained such valuable knowledge from both jobs! I currently still work for the derm practice, but will be leaving when I attend PA school. I just wanted to reach out to the pre-PA community because I'm sure there are a number of you who are looking to get clinical experience, and I wanted to see about giving the opportunity to someone who could gain valuable experience from this position. and FYI you do not need a medical license for this job, they do on the job training. I work here with the doctor as well as the PA. If you're interested, let me know and I'm happy to answer any questions and put you in contact with my office manager. :) Rachel
  4. I’m a PA with 11+ years of Ortho experience working in south Florida. I always had the impression that I’d be making 150k by the time I was 10 years out and find myself only making 120k at 11 years out ($123,600 at 12 years if I get my 3% raise in October). My question to Ortho PA’s with 10+ years of experience practicing in south Florida is: what do you make? What are your hours? Do you work for a private practice or a hospital? I’m wondering if working for a private practice is the way to make better money... FYI- I work for a hospital physician group where all PA’s and surgeons are employees of the hospital. I work 40-45 hours each week with no call or weekends. Benefits include 22 days off for vaca/sick/CME in addition to 7 holidays; 403-b with matching up to a certain number; percentage of health insurance covered; short term disability; licensure and NCCPA dues covered. My autonomy is limited. All the patients I see are during my doc’s office hours and are billed under the doctor’s credentials (my doc and I see around 6k patients per year). I am not able to see what my collections for surgery are. I keep specifying south Florida because we have a lot of PA schools and we have a high transplant rate (People want to move here to work) so I suspect the new grads and transplants drive the market price for a PA down... not sure. Maybe I’m just working in the wrong place? thanks to all for reading this far ?
  5. Hi everyone, Wondering if any of you have any insight into the validity of being a Clinical Research Assistant. I started working at a diabetes research clinic this summer and was offered the chance to continue working there this school year. My question is, should I be looking for something more hands on for HCE later? I know it depends of the school and how you sell your job description. In general I help out with in-clinics that have human subjects. I can do intake, vitals, medial history, lab tests, non-venous boood draws, device insertion/removal, and I work closely with NPs and PAs. It might not be life or death, but I am in a position where I am responsible for looking out for adverse hypo/hyperglycemic reactions and other study-related risks. Any thoughts?
  6. Hi everyone! I hope everyone's doing well during the application process. I have a question regarding adding new experiences. I recently added shadowing and research experience to my application but I have already submitted my application in the end of June. Will the schools be able to see the update when they review my application or will they see whatever I had sent in by the time of the upload? Thanks!
  7. Hello! Im a pre-PA student in North Carolina. Does anyone know of any PA shadowing opportunities in the Charlotte area? Thank you!
  8. Planning to apply to Baylor, UT-San Antonio, and UTMB-Galveston by September. While I do not have direct patient care experience yet, I hope to be hired on for a position soon so I can put on the app that experience will be acquired before enrolled in PA school. I have two positions that I'm interviewing for next week: phlebotomist (3 months paid training included) or tissue recovery technician, which involves removing tissue from donors for transplantation. The hours for the technician position are ideal for my situation right now (nanny). Being a phlebotomist means I will have to drop everything I have going on. Will the technician position be considered novel in any way? Or even be considered direct patient care (this will be mostly with cadavers)? Or should I just go with the safe bet and throw away any semblance of a life I have before PA school?
  9. Hello all! I am going to be applying for the PA class starting in 2019. Can anyone give me a ballpark answer on how much patient experience is needed? I have 520 hours patient contact and 160 PA shadow hours. The website only says 80 is competitive but I thought it must be much more than that!
  10. Hello! I am going to be applying to PA schools and I am highly interested in derm. I know this is a long time away but I just want to learn more about certain specialties. I was looking at jobs for derm PAs on Indeed and some other websites and I noticed they need 1-3 years experience. Is there any way to graduate PA school and start working immediately for a dermatologist or do you need to work your way through another specialty and then apply for a PA derm position?
  11. To keep a long story short - I am 24 years old and attending South University in Savannah, GA for Psychology. I originally wanted to do something along the lines of neurology, psychiatry, or pathology. Ultimately, I have gained an extreme interest in becoming a PA. My main concerns are my chances of acceptance into a PA program - specifically the program provided at South University in Savannah, GA. I do not have any experience in the medical field. I've worked at Gulfstream Aerospace (a very good job/position) in Savannah for almost 3 years. I make about $60,000 per year in my current position, so it would be hard for me to leave to become something like an EMT to gain experience in a field and still having the possibility of not even being accepted into the program. By the time I finish my undergrad, my resume when applying to the PA program will look something along the lines of: 3.4 GPA, Bachelor of Arts in Psychology (yes, I know it's not science, but I will take all the prerequisites), with no real-life experience. Also, I will be 27 years old, which seems a tad old. What are the chances of me being accepted with a decent GPA, bachelors in Psych, and no experience?
  12. Hey all, I've been working in the medical field (first as a mental health worker at SEPH for a year, and two years interning prior, then in an emergency room/crisis intervention as a tech for two years) for quite some time, and I have intentions to apply to PA school when CASPA opens up in spring of next year. I have a bachelors in Psychology earned in 2015, and the following are some basic credentials: -3.67 Cumulative Undergrad GPA, Dean's List from Sophomore Year onward -Medical Terminology - A, A&P1 - A, currently taking A&P2, Micro and Biochem but expect to have A's in all 3. -Approximately 3,080 hours PCE (rough estimate) -Experience shadowing a PA in both primary care and emergency care settings -2 letters of recommendation, one from an MD and one from a PA, waiting until I'm finished my sciences to ask a professor for a third to reinforce my academic skill So, not the highest degree of applicant a lot of schools see, but I'm relatively confident in a lot of my abilities. However, I'm just experiencing that pre-application anxiety and wanted to post here to see if anyone had any advice, any thoughts on my experience and likelihood at admission, any recommendations on how to bolster my application? Any and all criticism is appreciated. It's still a while away, but I've wanted to be in the medical field my whole life and want to be as prepared as possible! Regards, Lucien
  13. We are an Ophthalmology practice located in Sacramento, CA and we're looking to hire a FULL TIME paid technician/scribe who can commit at least 1-2 years. No experience necessary and willing to train within. If you would like more details or information, forward me your resume so we can discuss it individually. You will gain so much experience as you approach PA school. You can read about our office by visiting our website here www.liangvision.com
  14. For applicants with many hours of volunteer experience(500+, even in the thousands...) what types of experience do you have and how many years did it take to gain that many hours?
  15. Hi everyone, I'd like to receive some advice or guidance as to the route I am taking and whether I have a good change of being interviewed and accepted to PA school. I originally applied last cycle to about 20 schools and was denied to 19 outright, was wait listed for an interview at one, and eventually notified that I was removed from the wait list and denied. Here were my stats when I applied the first time... Science GPA: 2.94 Cumulative GPA: ~3.35 GRE (2nd time taking it): 149 Verbal (43%), 153 Quantitative (52%), 4.0 Writing (60%) Patient Care Experience - 2 years as an EMT at a paid volunteer fire department, did not receive many calls here so I only received about 300 patient patient care hours, but I put in well over 3,000 hours of employment here. 5 medical mission trips throughout Central America during the entirety of my undergrad. Earned about 100 unpaid hours from each and I served as President, Treasurer, etc at different times during this as well. Other Volunteer Experience - 8 years of experience with a national organization that is similar to habitat for humanity. Spent a week each year rebuilding or fixing homes for individuals of lower socioeconomic status. Multiple volunteer experience with different organizations. In order to make this a short post I won't list them here. Shadowing 117 hours of shadowing in primary care, neurosurgery, orthopedics, pediatrics, emergency care, cardio-thoracic surgery, and a general research study shadowing. All were shadowing a PA except primary care and the research study. Achievements Who's Who Among College Students, Dean's List Three times during the last 3 semesters of my undergrad. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here is what I have done since applying the first time: I decided to pursue an MPH in epidemiology (primarily infectious disease) and global health in which I am currently in a well-respected program. I will complete this in May of 2019. Provided I do well, this should boost my overall science GPA since public health counts as an other science category. I should note that I decided to go for this degree because I wanted both degrees. I worked as a full-time EMT in private, urban EMS for about a year and a half, earning 1700 paid patient contact hours and running about 660 calls during this time. My total patient care hours are now around 2500. During this time I also was promoted twice and earned two awards for excellent patient care (which really doesn't hold any weight in the real world but I figured I would include it). I went back to undergrad to finish up two additional classes (Biochemistry and a PH class) which I did very well in both which should bring me above the 3.0 minimum for most schools. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Overall, what are my chances of at least being offered an interview the second time around? I do not plan on applying until my last semester in my MPH program, in order to maximize the amount of new grades that I will have. I currently am not employed, but I plan on seeking a research assistantship for next year in order to hopefully get published. I realize that the reason I was outright denied to many schools is because of the 3.0 minimum science GPA requirement and the lack of paid patient contact hours that I had. I also realize that both my science and my cumulative gpa was not competitive at the time of applying, and still isn't considering I am only in the first semester of this new program. I was also encouraged to retake the GRE in order to get over the 50th percentile in all 3 sections. Truth be told, the reason for my low GPA is due to the significant amount of fun I had during the beginning of my undergrad, which lasted for 3 to 4 semesters before I really got my act together. Unfortunately, stellar grades during the last half of my undergrad do not make up for poor grades in the beginning. Any advice, criticisms, etc are welcomed and appreciated! Thanks for reading.
  16. Hi all! I'm about to enlist in the National Guard in order to proceed to IPAP next fall. I'm currently an undergrad with one semester of school left and have fulfilled all requirements except 2 chemistry credits and shadowing hours and I just have a few questions. I've been told that PAs in the guard, after completing school, only have to drill 4 times a year, does anyone know if this is true? I'm also curious if anyone knows if, during the program, students stay on base or if they are paid BAH and if my significant other would be able to move with me? In addition, I currently only have a 3.1 GPA (hopefully 3.2 by the time of graduation), is this considered competitive? I considered retaking classes but an AMEDD recruiter told me they take all classes into consideration to make a GPA and not just my university GPA (my university replaces up to 3 letter grads in the GPA for retaken classes). Overall, if you don't know any answers to my questions but have some input about the IPAP, I'd love to hear it! I've been searching for first hand experiences to learn more about it but it's hard to find! Thank you in advance for your time!
  17. Hi, I am a psychology student in my first year. After shadowing my aunt and her PAs, I have decided to pursue a career in that. I looked at a couple programs including USC's, Loma Linda's, Davis', Western Uni's, Northeastern's, and Cornell's. I'm aware that shadowing doesn't count for many of these programs (but it does in loma linda where my aunt works at their hospital). My mom works as a caregiver at an assisted living. Could I get my patient care hours there working as one? I have also started finding volunteer opportunities at hospitals and retirement homes nearby,
  18. Aloha! The path to becoming a PA is a little more challenging on such a small island :) If anyone can point me in the right direction of finding PA shadowing opportunities, volunteering opportunities, or ways to gain more HCE, I would so appreciate it!
  19. Has anybody heard anything for better or worse about interviews, rejections or acceptances? Any information about their interview timeline, time between submitting and interviews, etc? I submitted CASPA and UB supplemental a few weeks ago, just waiting to hear back now!
  20. Good evening everyone! I'm a first time applicant so hopefully someone in this forum can answer this quick question. Although, I add the shadowing hours myself and input the supervisory information, the PA that I am shadowing said there should be a standard shadowing form to complete. Is there a standard form that everyone uses to upload to various schools to show them your proof of shadowing or do I just simply complete the shadowing experience section and leave it at that? Any info is greatly appreciated!
  21. If I attended and participated in a suture and casting workshop with the pre-PA association on campus, should I list those under health care experience or extracurricular activities? For the casting workshop, we got to practice applying short arm fiberglass casts and removing them with a casting saw on our peers under the instruction of a PA and ortho tech. For the suture workshop, we got to practice a variety of sutures on raw chicken drums under the instruction of a PA. Thank you!
  22. Hi everyone! Confession: I'm struggling to find PCE. I'm graduating with my B.S. in Biology next month, and throughout college I've had some healthcare jobs and what might (might might might) constitute as a PCE gig (I was a caregiver for a girl with cerebral palsy for the better part of a year--LOTS of hands-on, medication-giving, bathing, wiping, feeding, teeth-brushing, etc. experience, as she was unable to do these things herself). I say it might count because it isn't in a traditional clinical setting, but I've had several people (PAs included) tell me they think it could count. So, I dunno. I'd love to hear your thoughts, if you have any on that matter. Anyway, I am going to give it a shot this application cycle, as my grades, GRE, shadowing, and LORS are good, my only weakness being PCE. But, I need a job. I'm about to be thrown out into the world for a year (or two, or three...however long it takes me to get in!) before beginning my program. I want patient care experience--I also want a job that allows me to pay rent. My question is...how do I find this great PCE job?? I have applied to dozens and dozens of them, and have come out with nothing. I don't have my CNA, or CMA. Some jobs I've applied to require neither, as they are private practices and just need a medical assistant for an extra hand. I could get a certification this summer, and I suppose that would be a good way to ensure employment come fall. Do y'all have suggestions? Is there a better way? What did you do? I appreciate any advice! *ALSO: just to make clear, the schools I'm applying to (all in Texas) don't require PCE but recommend it; it would make me a stronger applicant next cycle if I don't get in this year if I stacked up some good hours, but, like I said, I'm a strong applicant in the other components of my application which makes me feel a little bit better.* OK, go! Thanks so much in advance for your advice!
  23. Hi, I am graduating college with a Bachelor's Degree in Psychology and minor in Neuroscience. I am beginning my PA applications but need help with finding the best way to do clinical experience. I already have 500 hours as a medical assistant but this was unpaid. I am moving to New York City, but I can not find a way to get clinical experience without having some kind of certification, either as MA, CNA, or PCT. Any suggestions on finding paid clinical experience with my degree without paying for these other certifications? Or a way to take the exam for these certifications without taking the courses? Thank you.
  24. keaarvig


    Hello! I will be applying to PA school this coming cycle and I am trying to finish organizing my experiences. I had a couple of questions and would appreciate any advice you have. 1. I am currently enrolled in a phlebotomy course to receive my national certification. I will be mentioning this briefly in my statement, but was wondering if there was a way to add this into experiences. (we do have a given number of clinical hours we must meet). 2. I have heard different individuals say that for the experiences section it's best to include any and every experience that you can, but I have also heard it is better to limit what you include to the experiences that make an applicant more favorable. Thank you!
  25. With this thread, I am attempting to create a one-stop-shop for everyone's prerequisite questions, by compiling a complete list of every PA program's prereqs and experience requirements, as well as the location of each program. It would be nice if someone stickied this, and everyone can feel free to contribute. I apologize for the sporadic capitalization, I hand-typed all of this, as copying and pasting was far too messy and inconsistent. My first post is the nine schools in New England, since it's kind of the area I know the most about. I'm going to try and group schools by geographic area, except in the case of states like New York and California, which have so many programs they merit posts of their own. I hope someone out there finds this helpful. This is quite a project and will likely take a few weeks to complete, but I'll have it all done as soon as I can. Now for the list! Quinnipiac University Hamden, CT 27 Month Program B.S. or B.A. Prior to Application Anatomy and Physiology (8 Credits) Microbiology (4 Credits) Biology (Human or Mamallian, 4 Credits) General Chemistry (8 Credits) Organic or Biochemistry (4 Credits) College Algebra, Statistics, or Equivalent (3 Credits) Minimum CGPA of 3.00 and SGPA of 3.00 Minumum 2,000 Hours of Direct Patient Care Yale University New Haven, Connecticut 27 Month Program B.S. or B.A. Prior to Application General Biology (4 Credits) General Chemistry (4 Credits) Organic OR Biochemistry (4 Credits Anatomy and Physiology, 200+ Level (4 Credits) Biology, 300-400 Level, taken at a Four Year Institution (8 Credits) GRE Minimum SGPA of 3.0 Patient Care Experience Preferred Courses Do Not Expire University of New England Biddeford, Maine 24 Month Program At Least 90 Credits from Accredited Instution(s) for Application, B.S or B.A. Prior to Matriculation General Biology (8 Credits) OR Advanced Biology (6 Credits) General Chemistry (8 Credits Anatomy and Physiology (8 Credits) English (6 Credits, 3 of which must be in Composition) Advanced Courses in A+P, Pathophysiology, Microbiology, Statistics, Physics, Biochemistry, and Computer Science are Highly Recommended No Prereqs with a Grade of Less than C are Acceptable Minimum CGPA of 3.0, SGPA of 3.0 250 Hours of Direct Patient Care PA Shadowing HIGHLY Recommended and Will Consider Favorably Massachusetts College of Pharmacy and Health Sciences, Boston Campus Boston, MA 30 Month Program B.S. or B.A. Prior to Application General Biology with At Least One Lab (7-8 Credits) Microbiology (4 Credits) Chemistry with At Least One Lab (7-8 Credits) Biochemistry (3 Credits) Human Anatomy and Physiology (6 Credits) Psychology (3 Credits) Statistics or Biostatistics (3 Credits) Each Course Must Have an Individual Grade of C or Better Minimum CGPA of 2.8, PGPA of 3.0 All Prerequisite Courses Completed within Last Ten Years, Reviewed on Case-by-Case Basis Patient Care Experience Strongly Recommended but Not Required Massachusetts College of Pharmacy and Health Sciences, Worcester Campus Worcester, MA 24 Month Program B.S. or B.A. Prior to Application General Chemistry (4 Credits) Anatomy and Physiology (8 Credits) Organic Chemistry (4 Credits) Biochemistry (3 Credits) Microbiology (4 Credits) Statistics (3 Credits) Introduction to Psychology (3 Credits) Immunology and Genetics are Highly Recommended All Prerequisite Courses Completed within Last Ten Years, Reviewed on Case-by-Case Basis Shadowing of a Practicing PA for at Least 50 Hours is Strongly Recommended May Apply to Worcester, CT or Manchester, NH Program, But Not Both. Boston, MA Program is a Separate Entity and May Also Be Applied to Concurrently with Either the Manchester or Worcester Programs. No Health Care Experience Requirement CGPA of 2.75, SGPA of 2.75, PGPA of 3.00 Northeastern University Boston, MA 24 Month Program B.S. or B.A. Prior to Application General Chemistry for Premedical or Science Majors with at Least One Lab (7-8 Credits) General Biology for Premedical or Science Majors with at Least One Lab (7-8 Credits)(Microbiology Can Substitute for One Biology Course, 3-4 Credits) Human Anatomy and Physiology, No Laboratory Required, Must Cover All Body Systems (6 Credits) Statistics (3 Credits) All science prerequisites must have been completed at a four year institution. Biology and chemistry must have been completed within the last seven years. Anatomy and physiology must have been completed within the last four years. There is no time limitation for statistics, and it may be completed at either a two or four year institution. AP credits are not accepted as prerequisites, but students that have AP credit and have taken advanced courses in biology and chemistry may substitute them in place f the basic courses. If biology and chemistry were taken more than seven years ago, more advanced and recent courses may be accepted, if taken in the last seven years at a four-year institution. 2,000 Hours of Patient Care Experiend Required, Full-Time Experience Preferred over Part-Time No GPA requirement was listed, but all prerequisites must be completed with a grade of B or better. Springfield College Springfield, MA 27 Month Program B.S. or B.A. Prior to Application General Chemistry (8 Credits) Biology (8 Credits) College Algebra or Higher (3 Credits The Following Courses must Have Been Successfully Completed Within 7 Years of Enrollment Human Anatomy and Physiology (8 Credits) Microbiology (3 Credits) Organic Chemistry (3 Credits) Biochemistry (3 Credits) Statistics (3 Credits) Minimum CGPA of 3.0, SGPA of 3.0 Minimum of 220 Hours of Healthcare-Related Experience Minimum of 30 Hours of PA Observation Of special note, Springfield's PA program is primarily a five-year track, starting in a student's freshman year. There are a very limited number of graduate positions open (generally 5-10), and these fill very quickly. Obviously, this leads to graduate postions being extremely competetive to get into. Franklin Pierce University *PROVISIONAL* Rindge, NH 27 Month Program B.S. or B.A. Prior to Application Anatomy and Physiology (8 Credits) Chemistry (8 Credits) Biology (4 Credits) Microbiology (4 Credits) Statistics or Calculus (3 Credits) Psychology (3 Credits) Genetics, Immunology, Organic Chemistry, Biochemistry, Cell Biology, Nutrition, and Sociology are Strongly Recommended Minimum CGPA of 2.8, SGPA of 3.0 CGPA or SGPA of 3.5 or above, Gold Key International, National Scholars Honor Society, Phi Kappa Phi, and Phi Beta Kappa are Highly Favorable Research, Publications, Presentations, Advanced Degrees or Training, or a Combination of Three Basic Healthcare Certifications, Such as CPR, EMT, CNA, etc, are Highly Favorable Health-Care Experience Preferred, but Not Required Will Make Minimum GPA Exception if Last 60 Credits were 3.3 GPA or Higher This is a provisionally accredited program, and might or might not continue to be accredited after 2012. While the loss of accredation is unlikely, it is a possibility, and should be considered. Massachusetts College of Pharmacy and Health Sciences, Manchester Campus Manchester, NH 24 Month Program B.S. or B.A. Prior to Application General Chemistry (4 Credits) Anatomy and Physiology (8 Credits) Organic Chemistry (4 Credits) Biochemistry (3 Credits) Microbiology (4 Credits) Statistics (3 Credits) Introduction to Psychology (3 Credits) Immunology and Genetics are Highly Recommended All Prerequisite Courses Completed within Last Ten Years, Reviewed on Case-by-Case Basis Shadowing of a Practicing PA for at Least 50 Hours is Strongly Recommended May Apply to Worcester, CT or Manchester, NH Program, But Not Both. Boston, MA Program is a Separate Entity and May Also Be Applied to Concurrently with Either the Manchester or Worcester Programs. No Health Care Experience Requirement CGPA of 2.75, SGPA of 2.75, PGPA of 3.00
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