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  1. On the licenses and certifications section, CASPA acts for the issuing organization. I am not sure what would be the issuing organization for my CNA certification - would it be the school I attended for my certification or my state's department of health professions which lists online my license number...?
  2. I'll spare the forum my life story and cut right to the chase: Which patient care experience would allow an applicant to be more competitive: EMT-B or CNA/STNA? Or, does it not make a significant difference either way? I'm currently in the process of deciding which direction to go and am looking for some advice! CNA/STNA classes seem to be more affordable and easier to obtain, but most of the available positions are in LTAC facilities. Obtaining an EMT-B certification is more expensive, but it could lead toward higher acuity experience in a hospital setting. I'm having an open mind to either option but am curious if PA schools seem to value on certification over the other. (I'm not as concerned with salary of the position but rather what is going to make me the most competitive applicant). Thank you in advanced for insights and feedback!
  3. Hello! I graduated from MSU with a Human Biology Major in Winter 2015. It has been about 3 years since i have graduated. I studied the MCAT and took the test once and did not apply to any med school because of my MCAT score and GPA. i have a GPA 3.0 and not sure about my science gpa about 2.7-2.9 I just got married this summer and have been rethinking about med school and wanted to go to PA school instead It seems as competitive as med school but it is only 2 years of school. I don't have ANY direct paid health care experience only volunteering and haven't taken the GRE yet I am 25 years old and just need some help/guidance on the path. so my questions are: 1.) Should i go to graduate school for 2 years and get good grades to make up for my low GPA 2.) Should i just get as much PCE as i can? and then apply ? if so, which is better? CNA, MA, paramedic, EMT ? 3.) Lastly, should get certified to work as a CNA, MA, paramedic or EMT first, and then work while i go to grad school so i can get PCE and boost my GPA? i don't know where to start because I'm trying to find the most affordable and less time consuming way to be competitive to get into PA school Thank you
  4. I want to get CNA certified this spring to get my PCE. There are a couple companies near me that offer 75 hr - 120 hr courses which take about 3-4 weeks. There are also some companies that offer 3-4 day classes as well as weekend courses that help prep you for the exam. Do employers prefer you to have taken a course? Or can you just sit down and challenge the exam (at the very least) and still get employed somewhere? Thanks!
  5. Hey guys, This application cycle did not go well for me and even though it’s not over, yet, I’m expecting that it will be soon. With this in mind, I need honest advice about what to improve for two cycles from now (I don’t have enough time to improve between now and April). Here are my stats for this cycle: GPA: 3.40 SCIENCE GPA: 3.22 GRE: 308 HCE: 4800 hours as chief medical scribe (emergency room) PA Shadowing: 80 hours (ER, ortho, primary care) LOR: 5; 2 physician’s, 1 Medical director, 1 PA, 1 senior organic chemistry professor. I have a plan to obtain CNA licensure and work as a CNA until next Application; retake any science intensive courses that I got a B- or less in; volunteer with disadvantaged patients. Does anyone have additional advice? Does a CNA give you more solid experience vs something like a Medical assistant? Does anyone know if they take personal downfalls into account (both parents passed away in college and high school)? Does post bacc have to be at a university? (Asking because of cost). Any advice would be appreciated, thank you so much.
  6. Hello, I am just beginning the process of pursuing PA school. My plan is to apply to the University of New England in April of 2019. I am a 41 year old professional with 20 years in IT. I work at a Surgical Center as the IT Support person. My plan is to start my sciences in Jan of 18 (I have 6 to complete) I am writing to ask, what would be the best route to get my 2000 clinical hours? I am looking at doing the CNA program here at my job. It is free, it is 11 weeks longs and I would get a job in the hospital, immediately. Working closely with doc's , nurses, on critical care units. I was considering becoming surgical tech but, that is a 1 year intense program and the direct patient care, is with a patient who is asleep, not awake. When looking at clinical hours, what is the best route to take? If I am going to take a 75% drop in pay for a year, I'd like to get into school. The PA program here is super competitive. There were 1200 applicants last year and only 50 seats. Thank you,
  7. Hi everyone I need some advice. I am inquiring what others have done after they have obtained their HCE. I have been working as a RCA (Resident Care Associate/CNA) at an assisted living/memory care facility for almost a year (7 months) now and was wondering what others have done afterwards. I still need to take some prerequisites and take the GRE before I can even apply to PA school. I recently began to put ‘feelers’ out there (network), but so far no one has any ideas of what I should do next. I asked the NP (who works PRN at the same facility I do) and her response was “… go to nursing school.” I am considering taking a phlebotomy course or become a EMT to make myself more marketable, but I have found the job market in my surrounding community pretty slim (as it seems flooded with applicants). What can I else do, can anyone make any suggestions?
  8. Hi! I am a Junior this semester and am currently sitting at a 3.3 GPA overall and my science GPA is a 2.7. I realize this isn't great and when meeting with my academic adviser, she basically made me feel like with two C's on my science transcript that I was stupid and should give up. I have been having a hard time bringing myself up and believing I can do it. PA school-wise, I have recently received my CNA and have shadowed ~40 hours and have 325 hours volunteering. I want to believe I have a chance, but am wondering if it is worth re-taking these courses and starting a year behind. ~Also, I have been considering taking courses through a local community college to save money, but my adviser told me it looks bad on applications if I am taking an upper level course at a community college rather the university. What are you opinions on this? Thank you so much.
  9. I have had the same CNA job since the beginning of my senior year in high school and was wondering if it would be acceptable to list all of the hours I have accumulated since then for my healthcare experience or should I only include the hours I have worked since my first semester of college?
  10. Currently I am working in an assisted living/nursing home facility as a Resident Care Associate/Certified Nurse Aide. I have been there almost six months. Recently I was approached by a co-worker and asked if I would be interested in becoming a Med Aide. Do you believe if I do both this would enhance my chances when applying or should I just stick to being a CNA? Also, would it help pharmacology? TIA
  11. If I don't get in this cycle I will have to retake certain courses. Is 6-7 years usually the standard before you have to retake these science courses? I feel like this would be an endless loop. Don't get into this cycle then basically wait even longer and retake all my bachelor of science courses lol. Anyone in the same predicament?
  12. https://www.aapa.org/WorkArea/DownloadAsset.aspx?id=6442451423 Just saw this on C-1; the AAPA's response to the VA proposal for APRN full practice authority.
  13. Last cycle I applied to 6 schools, received one interview at Baylor, and wound up #8 on the waitlist...since it doesn't seem like I'll be moving up that list any further I will need to reapply. In evaluating my app, I think maybe my lack of HCE is my biggest deficit. Quick stats: GPA 3.89 Science 3.9 Post-bac 4.0 GRE 159Q 159V 4.0W Job - Shriners Burns Hospital research coordinator HCE - previously a scribe (if that counts?) and performed HIV testing and H. pylori testing in the ED, volunteer in two physical therapy departments Shadowing - 20hrs county clinic, will have 20hrs ENT and more hours with the PAs here at Shriners (20 or so?) within the next month REQs - Chief of burn surgery, Chief of research (my boss), MD I work closely with daily. (This time around I will swap out one of these for a PA) I am obviously lacking TRUE hands on healthcare experience. I signed up for a CNA course, but unfortunately the only option was April-May 2016, right when I need to reapply. I won't have time to work as a CNA before applying (nor do I plan on giving up a full time job for a part-time CNA job, which is all that is currently posted anywhere nearby)...so is it worth it? I thought maybe it would be good to get at least the clinical hours required for certification and the experience of it all. I would appreciate thoughts on whether this will boost my application at all, help me in the long run, or make any kind of difference at all? Thanks!
  14. After shadowing a PA at a fast-paced specialty office, I was offered an MA job working for that PA. I recently finished a local community college CNA program, and that is the highest medical license I currently hold. Will this job be an asset to my HCE for PA school or a grey area of liability..? It seems like the best scenario- working for a PA, skipping the extra schooling for CMA and jumping straight into on the job training as a non-certified MA. From my understanding, MA's are not required to be certified to work in my state. Here's my concern. During my CNA training, we were continuously reminded to not step over the boundary of our license by "performing nursing without a license". Is this applicable to in-house trained non-certified MA's? If I get a PA school interview, will they ask me about this? The job would routinely require me to execute tasks such as electrodessication, suture removal, medication injections, etc. Perhaps I'm worried about nothing and have a gem of an opportunity, but I'd rather thoroughly vet this in terms of legalities before investing a year of working fulltime at this job.
  15. I am currently a teacher and as such have spent most of my life either in school or teaching in a school. I've worked a few retail jobs but other than that I am a little lost as how to go about finding a job outside of an educational setting or just walking into a retail store and applying. How do you go about finding a job as say a CNA, or volunteering at a physical therapy office? I look at websites like indeed and it seems to be slim pickings but I always hear of people getting jobs at physical therapy offices, etc.
  16. Hello all, Pre-PA student currently knocking out pre-reqs and looking forward to applying this coming spring (2015). I do part-time EMT work, but the bulk of my HCE hours will come from my full-time job at a treatment center dealing in addiction recovery and trauma. This is more of a mental health focus. I'd welcome thoughts and feedback on what weight different types of experience carry (emergency medicine versus mental health, etc.) as well as stories of success (or failure) in how you used your hours to best and most accurately present yourself to the interviewers and admissions folks. Thanks, and best of luck!
  17. Hey, Sorry if this is a repost but I couldn't find anything on this forum about the actual interview process for ER Tech positions. I have an interview Friday morning at a big (>30 bed) Level 1 trauma center and I am pretty nervous about my chances to get the "emergency services technician" position. I have my EMT-B and have a little (read very little) experience volunteering in another hospital ER and some experience on a squad but not a ton outside of what I did through school to get my cert (maybe 36 total hours with local FD on 911 calls). I do however have about a year of experience working in a gastroenterology office as a procedural scheduler. My questions are: A) Do I really have a shot at this job without real street experience? I've been turned down from patient care tech positions at the same hospital recently due to not having a CNA...I'm not in any way associated with a nursing program which has been indicated is preferred... B)What sort of questions can I expect as part of the interview process? Anything besides the usual "tell me about yourself", "what's your greatest weakness" sort of stuff? C)Is there anything I can do as part of the interview to make myself stand out to the ED Director? Just talk about my patient centered philosophy? Even though it will be a paycut, I really want this job as I know it will give me a ton of valuable experience. I would honestly do it for free if I could maintain the same scope of practice and have the opportunity to learn and work alongside PAs/NPs/MDs/RNs etc and see their clinical decisions and interventions. Any advice or help would be appreciated.
  18. This may seem really dumb, but I'm wondering about the physics prereq requirement. The Red Rocks web site says "Physics (math-based)." Isn't it always math-based...but sometimes algebra and sometimes calculus? I specifically asked whether the Intro to Physics class at Metro would fulfull the requirement, and the answer I received was "yes, as long as it's math based." Can anyone clarify this for me?
  19. Hi everyone, I'm about to finish up my CNA course and will hopefully become certified within a week. What I'm confused about is whether working as a "caregiver" rather than CNA would be a risky move - I've heard some places don't accept it as HCE. It would be much easier to find a caregiver job in group homes and such, which is why I ask. At this point I'm really worried about finding a job to have enough hours to apply next year (will be working full time though). The job functions are generally the same - helping out with ADLs, rehabilitation, taking vitals, attending call lights. The only difference I can find is the title, and that you are serving "residents" rather than "patients". I've actually found that companies are advertising the job with both names ("CNA/caregiver"). Many also require that you at least finish a nurse aide course. Any other advice on finding work as a CNA is appreciated. It seems like many hospitals want 6 months experience which is disheartening. I might help out as a volunteer at a free clinic for now. Thanks in advance!
  20. Hi, I am new to this group but very excited to be a part of it! I am at the beginning stages of switching my career track from working in television to becoming a PA (big change I know!) I am going back to school in January to begin taking science pre-reqs as well as starting to apply for MA jobs. Does anyone have a good system in terms of logging HCE Hours? Thank you!
  21. I apply April of 2015 to about 7 different school. Wish me luck! I have several questions that I'm not finding the answers to so please help. 1. Can I create a Caspa account NOW and start working on it? 2. Generally how long does it take for transcripts from school to arrive at caspa? More specifically how soon should I ask for them to be transferred? 3. I had my CNA license but it expired four years ago. Should I re certify just to have it on my application or is there somewhere that I can write "previously certified"? 4. I graduate from the University of Arizona in early May of 2015, the 15th I believe. Is it worth it to wait for my last semester of grades and apply in mid May vs mid April? Or should I just apply as soon as the application opens and send my last semesters transcripts as soon as they're available? Thank you!!
  22. Overall, I'm a bit older, mature enough, and smart-ish enough (I personally think? 3.7something GPA or something) to get into PA school. Lots of volunteer experience to show commitment to the community. 2000+ hours of PCE/HCE as a CNA. Thing is, I'lI have little to no PA shadowing experience when I want to apply to schools mid July. Obviously, I mentioned in my PS that I will continue to work as a ICU CNA and gather more shadowing experience as the year progresses, but could having barely any shadowing experience still make one a competitive applicant?? Because all the key aspects I mention about the profession in my PS (flexibility! balance!) are qualities that I've heard about but may only have limited experience observing by the time it comes to submitting my app in July.
  23. So I am currently on my obgyn rotation. The owner of the facility has informed me that I am not allowed to inform the doctors, staff or patients that I am a PA student but reply that I am an MA student. I can't wear my white coat while on rotation either. I mostly finish writing in charts, stock rooms and take vitals. I have completed one vaginal exam that NP let me do when the owner was not there. What can I do? I know as a student Im at the bottom but having to lie about my student status just kills me. I have worked very hard to be a PA-S2 and i dont think I can last 6 weeks here and keep quiet.
  24. mbh2

    HCE during gap year

    After graduating this May with a B.S. in Biology, I am going to get my CNA certification to gain health care experience before applying for PA school. I am wondering how this will work during the application process... I graduate May 10th, if I can find a class to be certified by June, then hopefully find a job relatively quickly, I will just be starting to gain hours by the time I will be starting my application. I understand the advantages of submitting early, but after you submit are you allowed to update at all? This will be my first time applying and the process kind of confuses me but by November or so I (hopefully) will have much more HCE than in July/August when I hope to have my application in, and I would like to be able to account for those hours also. Thanks for any feedback!
  25. Hello, I am about to graduate in the spring with a B.S. in Biology. I have a 3.8 GPA, research experience, 20 hours PA shadowing, volunteer/ECs however no health care experience and I haven't take the GRE. I am scheduled for a CNA training course and I can be done by June, but so many people say apply early, and I definitely can see the benefit in this. On the current track that I am on though, I would just start acquiring HCE by the time I should have my CASPA submitted... at the same time self-studying for the GRE and taking it at some point (likely July)... would August/September be "too late"?? I don't want to waste all of this money to apply to 10 programs if by the time CASPA is submitted I look like a weak applicant (low HCE and possibly low GRE because of lack of time to study). However I feel conflicted because I know by the time I would matriculate (if I am even accepted the first time) I will have a whole year of HCE. I feel somewhat rushed but I'm having a hard time distinguishing if this is the "nerves" that come with first-time applicants or if I'm really running out of time to get everything completed by a reasonable date. ALSO, one of the most annoying problems of all - my bachelors degree took the typical 4 years to complete; HOWEVER, I took college classes during high school (for example, psychology, sociology, english 101, calculus)... I took some my junior and senior year of high school, which makes those classes 6 years old already... And since I am taking a gap year that would make these classes 7 years old, if I waited another year to feel less rushed it'd be 8 and my top school (Toledo) requires prereqs within 7 years of matriculating. So the expiration date on my prereqs are also a factor in why I want to apply this cycle. I would very much appreciate any feedback.
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