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  1. hello, i'm considering applying this cycle after completing my BSc in biology this past spring. i'm not sure if there is anyone here who has had an interview invite or being accepted with similar stats. your input is greatly appreciated. thanks cGPA:3.3 sGPA: 2.97 Volunteering 1500 PCE 11280 hrs HCE: 4500 shadow hours: 120 LORs: 1 MD and 2 PAs no GRE score, no research hrs
  2. Hi guys, I am currently an undergrad about to graduate in May with a bachelor of science in Neuroscience. I'm hoping to get some advice/insight on my application and stats. cGPA: 3.4 sGPA: 3.2 Last 60 hrs: 3.7 PCE: ER scribe: 2000+ (I understand not all school accepts this as PCE but the schools I will be applying to does) MA?: 700 hrs. (I worked at a Chiropractor office about 2 years ago. I didn't have a job title but my duties included triage, assisting physician in minor procedures, and acting as a medical translator between the patient and the physician) Would this still count? Medical Assistance: About to begin this job in May at a local urgent care near my house. Will be train on the spot and hopefully get certified in a few months. Volunteer: Children Hospital: 60+ hours Volunteer at local hospital in high school: 50 hours (Don't know if this would still count) Shadowing: 30+ hours ER PA (2 separate PA) 10 hours cardiology PA pending shadowing with ICU PA LOR: ER physician ER Physician ER PA Cardiology PA GRE: taking in May So, I understand both of my GPA is on the lower side. I did dual enrollment as a high school student and my transfer GPA after starting college was 3.8. Sadly, something very unfortunate happened in my life a week before my first semester and it became really tough balancing school, my life, and my mother's medical issue. I was also a Biology major and very confused about what I wanted to do in my life during this time. Took a bunch of classes I never needed (wasted money) and made B's on most of them and 1 C. Then, the following year my mother's health worsened and stupidly during this time I decided to take O-chem while all of this was happening. I ended up failing my first class ever with a D. It took a while for me to bounce back but I eventually did and passed O-chem the second time I retook it. Since then, I've changed my major to Neuroscience (LOVE IT) and have made A's in most of my classes and 2-3 B's in others. Is there anyway to improve my application? I am planning to apply this cycle regardless just to get familiar with the process and hopefully I get an offer or two. However, I am prepare to accept the fact that I may not get in this year so that means I might have a "gap" year to improve myself. I would appreciate any advice/insight! Thank you for taking your time to read this!
  3. Hi everyone, I really really want to be a physician assistant, but I don't have the most outstanding test scores or grades. I was wondering if you all could give me your opinion on if I have any chance at all of getting into a PA program. My overall GPA was a 3.30 and my science GPA was a 3.27. I took the GRE and got a 155 on verbal, but only a 145 on the quantitative section, and a 4.0 on the writing section. I will have 1,720 hours of healthcare experience working as a CNA by the time I am planning to apply to physician assistant programs. I also have 24 hours of shadowing PAs as experience. Please let me know if you think I have any chance of being accepted into a PA program. Also, if any of you have any recommendations on PA programs that would be best for me to apply to based on my stats I would greatly appreciate that! Thanks in advance for any and all responses!
  4. Hi everyone. I am planning on applying for my second time this upcoming April 2019. This past cycle i decided to apply in June 2018 and didn’t get my apps in until late July. I just applied to two programs that i already qualified for. I think my main error last cycle was applying so late and to so few schools. I should’ve just waited until this cycle, but it is okay because now i am more prepared and have a bulkier application. If anyone could give me advice on areas to improve on that’d be great! Bachelors in Respiratory Care (2017) cGPA: 3.4 (Caspa 2018 calculation) sGpa:3.4 (Casap 2018 calculation) Since last cycle i have taken or i plan to have completed before this cycle: Bio 2(A),Chem 2(A), Genetics (A), Orgo I (TBD, estimating a B+ to be on the safe side), Stat (TBD, est A). This should bring my GPA up to at least a 3.5 - 3.6ish? 3,300 hrs PCE as a Registered Respiratory Therapist (full time current career) 100 hrs volunteer/HCE medical mission trip to Peru. 25 volunteer hours from various events in college 500 hrs leadership experience for running student run organization in college(dance team) 4 years of being on college dance team. 700 hrs non HCE work as nanny of 3 children including one autistic child 24 hrs PA shadowing (cardiac surgery, critical care/pulmonary, plastic surgery) GRE: scheduled for March 30 (have started studying, hoping for a 300) LOR: 1 PA I shadowed, 1 from my Respiratory Care Manager, and one from my Resporatory peogram director/professor(?). I can probably do another PA if that would look better, but I know some schools require a professor Any criticism would be helpful! My goal is to apply before May 15th this cycle to about 7 schools! Thanks in advance everyone!
  5. Hello all. Hoping for some insight on my stats for getting interviews and just a SINGLE acceptance to PA school. Major: Dual B.S. Biological Sciences & B.S. Criminology from Virginia Tech cGPA: 3.43 sGPA: 3.32 PCE: 5,000+ as an EMT-B in a few different settings (volunteer 911 ambulance, beach first-aid station, horse show on-site EMT) HCE: organized and ran 3 bone marrow registry drives on campus, volunteer in hospital ER (roughly 30 hours), deputy section planning chief for HSEEP compliant exercise Shadowing: 60 hours between 2 PAs in 2 EDs Volunteer: 3,000 as volunteer EMT, volunteer in hospital, Dominican Republic mission trip Leadership: appointed historian for fraternity and next year elected master of ceremonies (executive position in charge of running all events) Certifications: EMT, BLS, CEVO, quite a few FEMA certifications Research: undergraduate research 1 semester in bacteriophage genome LORs: academic advisor/professor/research instructor, PA, lead paramedic at volunteer EMS organization, chief of department of volunteer EMS organization, riding instructor (coach)
  6. I am in the final few weeks of my freshman year of college. I came in pre-nursing but realized I wasn't cut out for it. I got a 3.16 GPA first semester, and second semester has been a complete disaster, Biology, and anatomy I am barely passing, but nutrition and psychology I should be able to 4.0. I plan on retaking bio and anatomy, but with a 3.0 GPA freshman year is it possible to build up my GPA enough to get into PA school? Also, I am deciding what major to choose for my undergrad since Pre-nursing isn't a major, I was thinking kinesiology but I'm not sure. I am trying to work as a CNA in the summer and working with a non-profit to put on my apps. Sorry for the information overload but I am scared I won't be able to get in any programs and be stuck with a useless degree. Any words of encouragement or advice is greatly appreciated!
  7. Hello everyone, I will be applying to this coming cycle in April and wondered where I stand in terms of my statistics. My Total GPA is 3.27 and the prereqs are at a 3.21. I have worked as an EMT for an 911 company for 1.5 years and currently I am an ER Technician for 1.5 years. Overall I currently have over 3000 hours of paid patient care hours. I have been a volunteer at a hospital for 2.5 years accumulating over 250 hours. I am also expecting strong letters of rec and I am currently studying for the GRE. Thanks for your help.
  8. Hello PA Forum, I wanted to know if anyone had any recommendations for specific PA schools considering my following goals and statistics. I would like to apply this summer for 2019 matriculation. Goals: Ideally I would like to work as a PA in a hospital setting. While I don't quite know my exact area of interest, I prefer primary care, emergency, and internal medicine over surgery. Additionally, I have a strong interest in contributing to research. Statistics/Background: 3.5 cumulative GPA, 3.45 science GPA at a private academic university 159 Verbal (82%tile), 158 Quant (70%tile), 4.5 Writing (82%tile) 9100 hours in paid and volunteering positions in the medical field (almost all clinical research) of which ~2000hrs were direct patient contact. Multiple presentations, with a publication in progress. Lots of shadowing with multiple medical professionals, but getting more with PAs I meet all prerequisites for most schools, but note I took physio without the lab (although I took anatomy with lab), and I never took a medical terminology course Pretty diverse extra-circulars with leadership roles and teaching experiences Thank you for your insight! Best, -pleaseandthankyou
  9. I was wondering if anyone could give me recommendations for applying to PA programs and if I have a shot at it. I am graduating this may with a BS in chemistry, BS in math, and a spanish minor. I'm also part of a 4+1 program to get a masters in chemistry before PA school. Overall gpa: 3.88 All of my pre-requisite grades are "A" except a "B" in biochemistry. GRE was a 157 in both sections and 5 on the written. I will have around 1200 hours from being a CNA and volunteering with a medical missions program.
  10. Hello! Finally finished up my pre-reqs and so I am thinking about applying as early as possible for the next cycle! I am little confused about when to apply, although the consensus from other forums seem to be April of 2018? I am mostly worried about my GRE score and I am debating on if I should retake it for the sake of getting a higher percentile. I am also afraid because I have no PA shadowing although I have worked briefly with one before. I do not know how much this will hurt my application. I also do not know if I need to take more courses. I research all the schools I am interested in, and made sure to meet all the pre-reqs but will doing the bare minimum hurt me? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated! I am super anxious lol! A brief background on my stats: Pre-reqs: Nutrition: A Medical Terminology: A Statistics: A Psychology: A Bio I: A Genetics: A Microbiology: A Chem I: A Orgo: B A+P 1: B A+P 2: B GRE: Verbal: 157 (76th percentile) Quantitative: 152 (47th percentile) Analytical Writing: 4.0 (60th percentile) **Didnt study at all so I think I can get this score up if I did** HCE: Medical Assistant at Urgent Care: 2 yrs (full time) Medical Assistant at Primary Care: 3 months (full time) Clinical Research Associate: 1 yr (part-time) **I worked like 7 days a week doing both MA and CRA positions almost every week except the last few months*** Volunteer: Case Manager and Disaster Relief Responder for the Red Cross: November 2017- May 2017 Certifications: Basic Life Support, Mental Health First Aid, Opioid Overdose Responder LOR: Commitment obtained from an MD, and two NPs.
  11. Hey guys I just wanted to get an overall opinion on what chances I have for admissions considering W's I have from 3 years ago. Stats: BA in Child Development cGPA:3.77 sGPA: 3.61 PCE as CNA: 2500 hrs Now, the W's I have 4. 2 of them are in prerequisites. One being anatomy and the other chem 101. I retook anatomy for an A and actually also became a tutor for a few semesters. Retook 101 got a B. Other sciences which are just the prerequisites for most programs were A's (chem 102, bio 1&2, micro, med term, pharm,) and a B in physio & ochem 1 I enrolled myself in advanced A&P this fall to freshen up and hopefully show adcom I can handle upper division science since I only took the basics with my major. Would the W's completely ruin my Chances? The other 2 W's are in GE's I don't need that I foolishly took first semester of college. Thank you in advance Edit: also took "other sciences" under CASPA, like another bio, ocean, kin, and a hsci. All either A's or A-
  12. Hello, I am finishing my undergrad and will be graduating with a Bachelor's in Health Science from Ohio in December. I want to apply for the cycle starting in April 2018. I have not taken the GRE yet My overall gpa is 3.4 and my science is 3.33 I'll have ~ 1500 hours PCE in April as a Medical Assistant/Phlebotomist I have 30 hours of PA shadowing and about 50 MD shadowing I'll have ~500 hours volunteering I plan to have good letters of rec and personal statement I have been researching schools that fit my profile but would love advice as this is all a bit overwhelming! Thank you!!
  13. I was just wondering what my chances were to getting into pa school. I graduated from UCSD and got by BS in physiology and neuroscience. ended with a 3.1 overall and science gpa . I volunteered at a hospital for about 100 hours. Currently have about 1000 hours working as a CNA. Ive been a public health officer for a year in the Flying Samaritans, where we got to shadow doctors and provide free clinics in mexico. Worked at a research facility that deals with HIV research where i handled sensitive patient info. and i was also part of the frisbee team for 4 years. Thank You,
  14. Hi all, I am 26 years old, interested in applying to PA school next April. I would like advice from current PAs, other PA school applicants, and current PA school students regarding my chances in getting accepted. Education: MPH in Epidemiology (cumulative GPA 3.77) BS in Biology (cumulative GPA 3.64) Certifications: Certified in Public Health (CPH) Work Experience: Current Research Coordinator in Oncology/Genetics field (full-time, 2+ years) Research Assistant in Oncology/Genetics field (full-time for 6 months) Scribe in Primary Care office (1.8 years, ~2600 hours) Scribe in Emergency Dept. & Ophthalmology clinic (1.25 years, ~2500 hours) Volunteer Experience: Two medical/dental mission trips to Honduras (2 weeks, ~100 hours) Hospital volunteer in Emergency Dept. & Pediatric unit (1 year, ~500 hours) Research Experience: 1 peer-reviewed publication, second author 1 oral presentation, first author I plan to take A&P I/II over the next year at a community college (since I did not take this in undergrad) and will be retaking my GRE (old scores were 152 verbal, 153 quantitative, & 3.5 writing). I am considering becoming certified as a Phlebotomist or CNA and work part-time (along with my research coordinator job) to up my HCE experience - would this improve my chances? Thanks in advance!!
  15. Currently I am working in an assisted living/nursing home facility as a Resident Care Associate/Certified Nurse Aide. I have been there almost six months. Recently I was approached by a co-worker and asked if I would be interested in becoming a Med Aide. Do you believe if I do both this would enhance my chances when applying or should I just stick to being a CNA? Also, would it help pharmacology? TIA
  16. Hello, all! Original Bachelor's from a top 10 university in Economics/Theatre -- GPA: 3.4 Then spent several years as an actor & decided I needed to do something more tangible, so age at time of application this round will be 27/28. Currently finishing second year of science pre-reqs (Bio, Chem, Orgo, Cell Bio, Organic Chem, Biochem, A&P, Microbio, Genetics) -- GPA: 3.97 (A's in everything except a lab or two) GRE Verbal: 169 (99%) GRE Quant: 162 (82%) AW: 4.5 (82%) Here comes the problem... HC-related experience: 1800 hours as radiology department admin for a hospital Volunteer: Patient Transport/other - 100 hours Paid, Hands-on Patient care experience: currently 0 hours, but planning to gain FT employment as either a CNA or scribe beginning in June/July. I would estimate that I would accrue ~500 hours by September, the application deadline of many schools. Shadowing: I am having trouble finding a PA to shadow in CNY, but plan to do so ASAP. Considering the following schools: U. Colorado, Baylor COM, UNTHSC-Fort Worth, UT-Southwestern, Idaho State, University of Florida, Yale (dual MPH!), Midwestern University in AZ, & University of Boston I'd appreciate any general advice and am specifically interested in knowing about any programs that may prefer high academic achievement and overlook low HCE. Will high GRE help offset this low HCE? TY in advance!
  17. Hello all, I am currently an Undergrad at a well known state school. I jumped into my EMS program right after high school (no gap year) and was not entirely focused. Financial reasons also got in the way and resulted in me getting two D's in A&P 1 and Med. terminology. I was put on academic probation for the spring 2014 semester but i retook my A&P course and Med. terminology course, got B's in both, and was promptly taken off probation the following semester (I know these are still not good enough grades to have for these courses). I finished my EMT-A program back in May (2015) with a 2.75 GPA. Since then I worked full time/part time and now have approx. 1000 patient contact hours. I began working towards my Bachelors in Biology back in January (2016) and brought my GPA up to a 3.4. I am probably doing this wrong but I tried to calculate my caspa GPA with my A&P courses (factored in the D's) and EMS courses to try and see where i somewhat stand and it resulted in a 2.7 sGPA. I am barely going to start taking any Biology, Chemistry, Physics coursework this coming academic year so I am planning to work my butt off and get that sGPA up. I am more or less seeking some advice on what to improve, which courses would you recommend once i hit those 3000 level, what would you have done differently, any general advice, books, tools, what you would have liked to know during your undergrad about the PA profession, etc etc. Overall this is where I currently stand: School: Large state school Major: working for a B.S. in Biology (still have about 2-3 years left) Current Undergrad GPA: 3.40 Guesstimated sGPA: 2.75 Patient contact hours: approx. 1000 (going to keep working part time so will increase significantly by the time I apply, also thinking about scribing or ER tech) Shadowing: none yet, so hard to find PA or MD to shadow in my area but currently cold calling Volunteer : -Mentor for underprivileged children in my area -Planning a medical trip to Nicaragua Cert/awards: -EMT-B -EMT-A -CPR -CARES award (you get this for bringing someone back) Other qualifications: -Fluent in both English and Spanish, working on learning French now. -First generation college student (not really a qualification but just thought id mention it) I've known this is the career path I've wanted to work towards since I finished my EMT program so any useful advice you can provide would be great, thanks!
  18. Hello, I graduated with a very low GPA due to nothing but poor study habits. After retaking a few classes since graduating, I've raised my CASPA cGPA to 3.3 and sGPA to 3.1. Because this is still very low compared to the average accepted PA applicants, I expect to get a lot of rejections from many schools. With Western U's grade replacement, my cGPA is 3.48, sGPA is 3.52, and pGPA is 3.56! This puts me around the average of the school's accepted applicant stats. My question is, will the grade replacement really put me on the same playing field as people who have CASPA GPAs of ~3.5, all else being equal? Will it prevent my application from being automatically discarded and help give me a shot at an interview? I have ~1100 as a Medical Assistant Any feedback/advice/encouraging anecdotes would be appreciated. This school is my top choice - I absolutely loved the environment during my visit and I know an awesome PA who graduated from here (the one I'm getting the letter from!).
  19. Hello everyone, I am a re-applicant and would like to discuss the best possible things to do in order to re-apply. From what I have gathered, accumulating more direct-patient healthcare experience, taking more science classes, volunteering more, shadowing more PAs, possibly retaking the GRE, re-writing a new personal statement and making sure it is really good, and applying early would be best. Does anyone else have any other great ideas to give a re-applicant the best chance possible? I appreciate any and all feedback. Thanks so much.
  20. Good evening everyone, I plan on applying this cycle and I just wanted everyones opinion on if I should do it this cycle or next. I apologize if this is in the wrong forum. I tried reading on the website to try and figure out where the right place to post this was... but I couldn't find an answer. Also, I saw a lot of similar posts to this one on this thread..and that's why I thought this would be the appropriate place to ask this. IF this is not the right thread please let me know and I will take it down. Here are my stats. Please let me know if you find me competitive I am 21 years old and I will graduate on May 2017. I am applying to schools that require students to receive their bachelors PRIOR to matriculation. I am also applying to schools that only "recommend/prefer" HCE hours instead of having a minimum. I am appyling to schools in Oklahoma, Texas, and Kansas. These schools do not have rolling admissions, so I do not think applying early will give me a better chance at receiving an interview (CORRECT ME IF IM WRONG please) :). This will give me the chance to submit my transcript after my summer school classes end (Which end July 29th and I can hopefully have my application in sometime in August). The application deadline is October 1st. I am an Oklahoma resident and I have a strong dedication to work in the rural/underserved populations. I talked about this in my PS, and I made sure to emphasize how much this means to me. I went to the writing center a couple of times and had two different advisors read it, so I think it will be okay. I also have really great LORS (doesnt everyone?) ANYWAYS... onto the stats (TL;DR) Degree: Microbiology/Cell and Molecular Biology Science GPA: 3.54 Cumulative GPA: 3.63 Last 60 hours: 4.00 GRE: 306 1600 hours as a volunteer medical assistant at a neurology clinic. (I went ahead and asked OU if this counted as HCE and they said it did) 600 hours as a swim instructor 300 hours of shadowing a variety of PAs 100 hours of being a volunteer lab assistant, I eventually submitted a research proposal and won the Wentz research scholarship 400 hours shadowing 2 neuro MDS I shadowed a PA student at the OU-OKC campus for the day, and I went to their advisement session.. I hope this shows how committed I am to going to their program. If anyone has any advice or opinions regarding my stats let me know. IF anyone here has applied to schools in Oklahoma, Texas, or Kansas, PLEASE let me know how the process went and what you experienced. I don't think I am forgetting anything to add to this post. Once again, if this is in the wrong thread i sincerly apologize and I will remove it asap. Do you think I should apply this year or just wait to apply once I get my bachelors? Once I graduate and receive my bachelors my GPA would be around a 3.72 cum, and a 3.61 science, and I will have more hce hours. Anyways... please let me know what you all think. Thank you for reading this.
  21. I'm currently finishing up my 2nd year at UC San Diego. I will be going to school all summer and all next year in order to finish my undergrad in 3 years. I plan to take a year off after undergrad to accrue some HCE (leaning towards CNA), shadow doctors and PAs, and to take a few prerequisites that my school doesn't offer and then I will apply (2018-2019 cycle). My issue is that because I've been rushing school, I have hardly any extracurriculars. My current GPA is a 3.92 (science GPA is about the same) and I don't expect it to move much beyond that in either direction. I've been a part of a few clubs, have a few random days of volunteering and I will be volunteering in the burn unit of a hospital starting in a few weeks and continuing all year (I expect around 150-200 hours). My targets are Southern California schools like Western, Marshal B Ketchum, Southern California University of Health Sciences, etc. A few questions: 1) Will not having any research (especially coming out of UCSD) have a negative impact on my application? 2) Is a good GPA, a good amount of HCE and some volunteering enough to land me an interview specifically at California schools? 3) Is a shorter undergrad time looked at any differently? Either positively or negatively? I would love to do more volunteering and get involved more and even do some research but I just don't have enough time with my really heavy course load and keeping up my GPA is my first priority. And before it is suggested, slowing down and taking an extra year for undergrad is not an option in my case. I'm just trying to stay on track and make sure I can pursue my dream career! Thank you in advance for any and all advice :)
  22. I am a first time applicant to PA Schools and I'm feeling a little nervous about my qualifications. I'm hoping to apply to this next 2016-2017 CASPA cycle and I would love any input on my stats. My Stats: Cumulative GPA: 3.727 Science GPA: (I haven't calculated this yet but it should be around the same as cumulative. I made all A's/B's in sciences courses. Maybe two C's.) Undergrad Major: Nutritional Sciences Verbal GRE: 160 Quantitative GRE: 154 Writing GRE: 4 HCE Hours: 100 Hours CNA Clinical Hours (I was told some PA schools accept this as HCE) 350 Hours as CNA/PCT on Orthopedics 80 Hours as Clinical Lab Assistant 1200+ Hours as Medical Assistant to Family Practice Clinic (I really want at least 2000 hours but I'm still a little bit off.) Letters of Rec: - Family Physician I am currently working with - Nurse Practitioner I am currently working with - Undergraduate Nutrition Professor Adviser - Physician Assistant I shadowed (Potentially?) Ideal PA Schools: - SLU - Baylor - George Washington University - MSU - (And another school. Probably one from CA but I'm still narrowing my options.) I'm currently taking an additional online anatomy course to prepare me for PA school this upcoming 2017. Is there anything in my application that I need to strengthen or add? Any input or encouragement would help at this point! Thank you for the input!
  23. Hello, so I have already applied back in July to 11 programs. I realize that this post is irrelevent but it may provide me with peace of mind. So here it goes... Degree: B.A Biology from a small private insititution that is pretty well regarded. CASPA cGPA: 3.24 CASPA sGPA: 3.15 GRE: 157V 147Q 4.0AW Experience consists of 1200 hours as a CNA in assisted living and 1600 hours as a CNA in a large urban university hospital on an ortho unit. So total around 2800 hours direct patient care. Volunteering includes 50 hours as a physical therapy volunteer at a rehibilitation facility and 88 hours on a church mission trip to Haiti. Shadowing hours are around 35 hours of PA shadowing in various settings. My 3 LOR are from a former biology professor and advisor, a chruch pastor who supervised the mission trip and my former nurse manager who is now director of nursing at another hospital. I had a C in animal physiology which was my upper-division physiology class but took a human physiology this past July and received a B. My post-bach GPA, all of which are science classes, which consists of 13 credits including the human physiology stands at 3.7. I did receive a C in genetics and a D in O-chem 2. Any feedback would be appreciated thanks!
  24. Hi all, I find it very confusing that many schools list minimum GPA requirements as low as 2.75 or 3.0 however now schools will not even consider you if you do not have at least a 3.4! Yes, I understand that it is more competitive now, however if the schools will not even look at an application that meets the requirements, they should really update their websites so that students understand what the school wants. Can you guys list the schools with these "real" GPA requirements? (e.g. I know Western now will only consider students with 3.4 or higher).
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