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  1. Hello all! I am interested in what the feedback would be from you guys as to if I am a good applicant. I have been experiencing a lot of difficulty getting into PA programs because I do not have this GPA or this GRE score. I am just curious if I am ever going to get in. I have a BS in Biological Engineering that i graduated from last May with a 3.168. The major problems I have experienced is that my science GPA is a 2.9. I know this is low but I took the majority of my biology/chem/physics classes my first two years of college. I had originally gone into biological engineering thinking that it would help me look different and stand out against other applicants. I am wrong though, it has hurt me more than helped me. So after calling programs and figuring it out what exactly I am missing I think I have greatly increased my application. In the last year I have worked at a dermatology clinic as a MA for one year, went to Guatemala for a medical volunteer trip where I learned spanish, just got a new job at a primary care clinic as a MA. On top of all of that I have over 100 hrs shadowing (PAs and MDs), over 800 hrs community service. What am I doing wrong guys, please help me out. I really really want to get in this year. Am I just applying to the wrong programs?
  2. Hello! So here are my stats so far Year: Junior Major: Allied health Current gpa: 3.4 *last semester I got a 4.0 and my goal is 4.0 for my remaining 3 semesters Science gpa: not sure...but here are my prereq grades- gen chem B-/B (two semester sequence with lab) Enhanced A&P: C+ both semesters organic: A organic lab: A Biology: AP credit In progress: Genetics, A so far next semester will be micro and immuniology Patient care hours: 80 from ER research (working with patients), currently certified as a CNA, I also work as a PCA for a kid on campus during the semester. I will be working as a CNA this summer and until PA school to build hours. Extras: Student research assistant in an ER, premed society, allied health club (debating if I should join the red cross club...will it help?) Concerns!- My anatomy grade is well...bad. Any suggestions? I know I do not want to retake it at my university and I feel it will be my make or break for acceptance...my only excuse is not having the study skills that I have now. I hope that my jump to straight As will show improvement. Any suggestions on how to improve myself to apply? Also I will be taking a year off before applying. Also my dream school right now is quinnipiac, they told my that my A&P grade meets their requirements but isn't competative, I know they value HCE very highly.
  3. Hi there! I would really appreciate any help anyone can give me about this matter. I am about to be a senior in college and by my calculations I don't think I can reach the general 3.0 cumulative GPA minimum. I really have my heart set on PA school but my grades just aren't high enough. I go to a competitive 4-year university and am getting a BS in Biological Science w/ a Physiology emphasis. I have one year left and by my estimations I will only be able to reach a 2.85 cumulative GPA and a 2.56 science GPA if I were to be realistic about what I think I could get. My biggest issue with grades in college was with chemistry. I had a very weak base in chemistry and any class that built off of it just ended up...bad. Unfortunately I cannot retake classes that I got a C in at my university so I would really like rebuild my basics after I graduate. I understand that taking more classes will have a diluted effect on my cumulative and if I don't do well in them a second type I'm basically screwing myself over. However I have good reason to believe I can do better once I am in a different environment if I am given the opportunity to rebuild my foundations/prereqs (long story involving drama and stuff so I'm going to leave it at that). From my calculations I can conceivably bring my cumulative to a 3.0 in approximately a year and my science to a 2.7. I have been looking into formal post-bac programs like at SFSU or Cal State East Bay. But there isn't as much leniency on what I can take. I have also been looking into open university courses where I could just pick courses I need and take them as is. I know that the post-bac's can give you a certification or something at the end but I don't know if that really matters. So... Does it matter if I do a 1-year post bac or 1-year of classes at an open university? What are some other good post-bac programs for a science major who is trying to raise her GPA? I would really like to get certified as an EMT and work as well. I plan on taking up to 2 years "off" (doing post-bac, working for hours, etc). Any help would be greatly appreciated.
  4. I was a corpsman in the Navy for 6 years, I've worked bedside care on the ICU, a year in a recovery unit, became a surgical technologist with experience scrubbing in ophthalmology, L&D, MOR, and plastic surgery, and worked pretty much as a PA while deployed to Kuwait, accumulating over 12,000 hours of hands-on patient care experience. I was duty section leader while deployed and was in charge of 8 others. I have awesome recommendations, a pretty stellar narrative, a bachelors in Health Care administration and graduated cum laude with a 3.58, pretty much my application looks awesome except for one thing- I just finished calculating my science GPA and its a depressing 2.84. I thought I read somewhere that CASPA drops your lowest repeat grade but I was wrong. After getting my degree I applied for a post-bacc program and started off in the summer taking Gen Chem II and Bio II - big mistake because the last science class was four years prior. With a fast paced summer class it was a recipe for diaster, I got a D in Gen Chem II. I retook it though at the same institution and got a B. I'm in a post bacc program right now and I've been getting As and Bs in every course, which are specifically the prereqs and which account for most of my science classes. It shows that I've been getting better at studying etc, especially with an A+ in Ochem last semester. I still have Microbiology to take this summer, along with A&P II this fall, so I haven't even finished all my prereqs yet, but UTSW says I can still apply as long as i finish before Dec 31st. If I apply now before taking Micro this summer, it'll show a 2.84 CASPA, but if I wait til after the summer and get an A in Micro (fingers crossed), my GPA should bump up to a 3.11 which is still pretty depressing. If I apply now with CASPA showing a 2.84 but two more classes to take, what are my chances of getting accepted? I would hope my experience, recommendations and a great narrative would pull up my chances, but I'm not sure. Should I wait to submit my application until after taking Micro this summer so that CASPA will show a 3.11 science GPA? I'd really like to apply early instead of rushing my transcripts off in August when the deadline is Oct 1st at UTSW. Any suggestions appreciated. Thanks
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    CASPA Science GPA

    Hey everyone, I'm new to this forum, but I've been reading it for a while and I think everyone has really great things to say! I am currently a sophomore in undergrad and I have a pretty weak science GPA (2.84) since I got my first C today in Genetics :'(. Anyway, I was wondering if CASPA takes science courses that are not prerequisites into account when calculating the science GPA. So would I benefit from taking some elective science courses that are on the easier side to boost my science GPA? or would it have no effect since it's not a prereq? My cumulative GPA is a 3.4 since I'm a non-science major, and I still have to take 15 credits of prereq courses before I'm done with them, so if I theoretically get A's in all of them, I could end up getting a 3.28 science GPA. Also, I'm planning on taking psych stats (since my school's bio dept. is incompetent), will this count towards the science GPA since it is a prereq, or will it just count towards my cumulative GPA. Thanks for all your help in advanced!
  6. Hi everyone! Check out this new tool for Pre-PA students! You can search by entering a combination of Classes, Credit Hours, CASPA, GRE, GPA. Enter in all the criteria you plant to fulfill or have fulfilled, and a list will populate of schools you are eligible to apply to! Very easy to use and will save you hundreds of hours trying to find what schools you should apply to. Please click the link to try it out! http://physicianassistantrequirementspa.com/pa-programs-search/
  7. Hi everyone! Check out this new tool for Pre-PA students! You can search by entering a combination of Classes, Credit Hours, CASPA, GRE, GPA. Enter in all the criteria you plant to fulfill or have fulfilled, and a list will populate of schools you are eligible to apply to! Very easy to use and will save you hundreds of hours trying to find what schools you should apply to. Please click the link to try it out! http://physicianassistantrequirementspa.com/pa-programs-search/
  8. Just saw this on indeed. Anyone work with sea mercy before? Physician Assistants - Remote islands of Fiji Sea Mercy - Houston, TX 77004 Temporary The South Pacific is calling! Will you answer? An incredible and rewarding opportunity is waiting for you in the South Pacific. If you've desired to visit the beautiful islands of the South Pacific, but prefer purposeful adventure sailing to remote islands over luxury hotels, then take a moment to explore the Volunteer Opportunities Available for health care professionals through Sea Mercy (www.seamercy.org). Sea Mercy is a 501©3 non-profit organization providing Free Floating Health Care Clinics (FHCC) for our island nation partners in the South Pacific. Currently Scheduling for the following locations: Kingdom of Tonga - 176 remote islands (over 50 are permanently inhabited). Republic of Fiji - 300 remote islands (over 100 are permanently inhabited). Volunteer assignment duration: 2 weeks minimum (or longer if you are able). Compensation: Your food, a berth on the Sea Mercy sailing catamaran, new friendships, the joy of helping those in need, and memories that you will treasure for the rest of your life. Travel pickup and departure coordinated by Sea Mercy. This assignment should be viewed as the most incredible "working vacation" you have ever experienced. Available Opportunities for: Doctors, Physician Assistants, Nurses, Dentists, Dental Assistants, Ophthalmologists, Pharmacists and other Health Care specialties (spouses and family can join you). Available Times: 12 day rotations from April thru October (currently only accepting applications for 2014 volunteer rotations). Why Sea Mercy? Sea Mercy provides the much needed health care services (medical, dental and eye care) to citizens living in the remote locations of our island nation partners in the South Pacific. With no roads, power lines, or traditional phone systems to connect the smaller, less populated remote islands to the same health care services offered on the larger islands, we bring the health clinic and health staff to them via the Sea Mercy Floating Health Care Clinic (FHCC). Most of the patients you will be serving do not have even the most basic of health care services. Working on a Floating Health Care Clinic Working closely with the health ministries of our island nation partners, our FHCC's are modified sailing catamarans that carry our health care volunteers and the necessary supplies to these remote islands in order to deliver the care, medicines and services needed. The FHCC focuses on fulfilling the following health care needs: Preventive - Providing immunizations, examinations, and evaluations. Curative - Providing treatments, minor surgeries, and limited pharmaceutical care. Educational - Teaching health education and training of local citizens. Working with local government health staff and interns, we can help teach and train local islanders on better health practices and there by reduce health care needs. Rehabilitative - Helping islanders return to a productive life through corrective treatment of physical ailments, impairments, dental or eye care needs.
  9. So lately I have been doing some number crunching and I am trying to figure out what a safe amount of $$ will be for everything except tuition...... Assuming rent is ~1,200 a month, I am looking at 36K alone in rent after 30 months....What do current students think would be a safe number for other related living costs such as food/gas/cable/electricity ect... for the entire 30 months? 36K for rent + ___________ ORC = Total loan amount without tuition for 30 months.
  10. Hi all, For those who have been accepted (or rejected), what were your stats? I know this is a new program so I'm interested in seeing what they want. Also has the program been accredited yet? Thanks
  11. Long story short, I retook two classes (calculus and physics) in an attempt to raise my two C's to B's. Unfortunately, CASPA has to add all the grades that are on my transcript, and they do not replace grades for courses that were repeated. If both grades were on my transcript they would calculate both. This means that the C's were also added into my gpa putting it at 0.04 points less than what it really is. According to my transcripts at UIUC, my GPA is exactly a 3.0. CASPA standardizes its calculations and calculated mine to be a 2.96. I would hope in rare cases where an applicant's GPA falls below a 3.0, but the applicant otherwise appears to be a sound candidate for interview, most PA programs would be able to put the difficulty of one's major into consideration. Because of my major, I was required to take the more rigorous level biochemistry and microbiology courses at my University. Currently I'm working as a research assistant at the University of Chicago's Eating Disorder Program. Through our studies, I take vitals for the patients then conduct patient assessments. Afterwards, I present these patients at our team meetings, and determine the best course of treatment with doctors, the psychiatrist, and therapists. So far I have about 500 patient contact hours. Sadly I haven't received any interviews yet. I am considering applying for a masters in public health. Ideally, I do well and reapply. I guess I'm not sure if I should work for a second year and gain more patient contact hours, or get my masters and aim for a higher GPA?
  12. I withdrew from graduate school in 2000 for medical reasons (long resolved). When I got around to checking my transcript in 2002, my grades weren't the W's I was expecting to see, so I contacted the school and they corrected the grades to W because they did see I had the medical withdrawal paperwork. My transcript now has this mess: 2000 Fall Course Attempted Earned Grade GLG 592-M 3.000 0.000 W GLG 598-M 1.000 0.000 W GLG 598-M 3.000 0.000 W RUS 101-M 4.000 0.000 W FALL 00 MEDICAL COMPLETE WD EFF: 110600 CAMP WDR DT 000000 TO 000915 EFF 062502 M GLG 598 GRADE E TO W EFF 062502 M GLG 592 GRADE Y TO W EFF 062502 M GLG 598 GRADE E TO W EFF 062502 M RUS 101 GRADE E TO W EFF 062502 Withdrew: 09/15/2000 My question is, will these be calculated as Fs or ignored as Ws? Thanks.
  13. what are my chances for getting accepted to PA school after graduation?
  14. if I were to earn A's in all of my needed science classe, what are my chances for getting accepted to PA school after graduation?
  15. So long story short, I've experienced a rough transition from high school to undergraduate. My first year marks were not the best and my second year marks were average (biochem, genetics). Needless to say, the bottom of my transcript is nothing to boast about. Come third year, I get my life together and start popping out consistent 4.0s left, right, and center all the way through 4th year as well (human anatomy, human physiology, etc). So my issue is undoing my first two years. I am now graduated and have a lousy 3.0 overall GPA, with a 3.9-4.0 in my last two years. With this in mind, I realize there are masters programs out there which only look at the last two years. Obviously with my transcript, this is the difference between night and day. Are there PA schools out there worth going to which perform admissions in a similar manner? If not, how can I right my wrongs? I am currently in the phase of shadowing and receiving HCE hours before I apply, and have extensive volunteer, and leadership experience under my belt.Time and debt of going back to school for 2 more years would be overwhelming! Thanks for the input!
  16. So I just started my masters of science in biomedical sciences (I started it because I wasn't sure which path I wanted to take in the first place). Now that I know I want to go to PA school, I am curious if anyone has any idea what GPA range someone who is getting a masters in should get to be a competitive applicant to PA school. My undergrad was about a 3.5 I have great clinical experience (2 years) but I have no idea what admission committees would like to see for a GPA from a rigorous masters program. Thanks!
  17. So I just started my masters of science in biomedical sciences (I started it because I wasn't sure which path I wanted to take in the first place). Now that I know I want to go to PA school, I am curious if anyone has any idea what GPA range someone who is getting a masters in should get to be a competitive applicant to PA school. My undergrad was about a 3.5 I have great clinical experience (2 years) but I have no idea what admission committees would like to see for a GPA from a rigorous masters program. Thanks!
  18. So I just started my masters of science in biomedical sciences (I started it because I wasn't sure which path I wanted to take in the first place). Now that I know I want to go to PA school, I am curious if anyone has any idea what GPA range someone who is getting a masters in should get to be a competitive applicant to PA school. My undergrad was about a 3.5 I have great clinical experience (2 years) but I have no idea what admission committees would like to see for a GPA from a rigorous masters program. Thanks!
  19. Hi everyone, This is going to be a bit long, so please bear with me. I am currently an undergraduate student going for a B.S. in Psychobiology. After completing two years of undergrad, I have earned an incredibly low 2.7 cumulative gpa. My science gpa is shamefully a lot lower; admittedly, I barely passed most of my science pre-req classes with Cs. These first two years have been a complete mess and there are no excuses. I had no goals, there was no motivation in school and, in effect, I didn't take my courses seriously. I knew that my attitude would bite me in the end, but for some reason I had this mindset that I would figure it all out later. I know, it was very naive of me to think like that. In the last quarter of my second year, I failed my Physics course, and I am retaking it again this summer. I guess it was in this moment where I realized that I needed to get my act together. After completing my second year and getting some time off from school, I did a little researching and found that the path of being a Physician Assistant seems more and more appealing to me. I am ready to buckle down and take college more seriously this time around. I know that I am an unappealing candidate for PA school at the moment. I would like some advice on how to turn this mess around. Unfortunately, I have completed almost all of my science pre-reqs (except Physics, anatomy, physiology) and will soon tackle my upper division courses, which are purely psychology courses (yeah, it's a bit weird, and kind of hard to grasp how my major integrates the two disciplines together). Where should I go from here? What should I do after undergrad? Should I go back to community college and retake my science courses in where I received Cs in to earn a better GPA (mind you, I received Cs in the bulk of my science courses)? I heard that PA schools average out both your retaken courses and your original grade.And what should I do to make myself more of an outstanding applicant since my GPA is currently non-competitive? As for extra-cirricular activities, I am currently involved in a few things, but they don't really pertain to the medical field. I am involved in research in a Psychology lab where we perform computer based experiments on participants that deal with cognitive memory. I am thinking of transferring to a more science based lab, however, or be involved in something where I can hopefully tie into what I'm doing in the future. I am a volunteer at a hospital that is right next to my university. But essentially, I just talk to patients in the waiting room and ask if they are in need of assistance in finding potential resources that they are in need/interested in (such as dental or health insurance, finding programs if they are a low-income family, etc.). The program hosts this volunteering program also offers a quarter long physician shadowing program, though, so I think I am going to apply to that this upcoming year. I also am working as an assistant to a surgery coordinator in the hospital, but it's mainly just clerical work. And lastly, I am in two youth empowerment organizations on campus, one of which I tutor/mentor high school students and another in which I am a camp counselor for kids who come from underprivileged areas in LA. Please, any solid advice would be appreciated, on where to go from here, what I can do to be more involved in the medical field, anything. Even a little reassurance is appreciated! I think I'm just going through an identity crisis right now and I've realized I made a huge mistake. I regret not taking my classes more seriously. I've thought about it and I really do enjoy helping others. I feel like the medical field reflects my caring personality in wanting to make a difference. And after learning more about the PA career, it just had some great trade offs for a field that is so demanding. Thanks for your time.
  20. Hi everyone! So I am in a unique situation that makes getting HCE quite difficult. Currently I am pursuing a bachelor's degree in Biochemistry from a a very small school that has a required co-op in order to graduate. Due to this required co-op I move every 3 months between school and work. My co-op job is actually in a chemistry lab doing organic synthesis work in research and development. Due to this hectic schedule, the 11 weeks I am at school I am swamped with schoolwork since I typically take a 20 credit class load. On the other hand during work term I work from 8-5 everyday and then at least once a week make the half-hour trip to go shadow some PAs in the ER at a local hospital. Due to this co-op schedule, my undergraduate program is a 4.5 year program instead of 4, however, by the time I graduate I will have 2 years of real work experience. Since my program is a 4.5 year program, I will be graduating in December of 2014 and I really would prefer to start PA school in 2015 instead of having to take off over a year from school. I was wondering if anybody had any advice on what avenues I could pursue to help procure some HCE hours that would fit into my crazy schedule. Also I would like some advice on how to improve my chances of getting into PA school. Posted below is my GPA along with other information: Science GPA: ~3.25 (I go to a school that only offers sciences and engineering. That being said I also was taking organic chemistry along with my physics classes and not being able to eat due to some weird stomach condition that took over a year for doctors to diagnose.) Cumulative GPA: ~3.39 (I plan on bringing this up quite a bit since I still have 3 more school terms left, and these classes are also more biology based which I excel at. The reason my GPA is so low is due to organic chemistry ©, physics ©, and calculus (1-3) classes©.) Extra Information Vice-President of Pre-Med Club for the past two years GEO (Greener Engineering Organization) During my work terms I shadow PAs in the ER Aquaneers (Scuba Diving Club) Job Shadow Gastroenterologist Hands on Job Shadow Hospital County Morgue Research and Development Chemist (Co-op Job, Since June 2011) President of Gamma Sigma Epsilon Chemistry Honor Society Department Volunteer ( I give tours to potential students of our labs during our school open houses, and tell potential students and parents about the program and the co-op program) Doctor for a Day Volunteer I know its not very much and I would really appreciate any suggestions on how to strengthen my application. I was debating between medical school and PA school but after talking to many people and hours of research, I found that PA school is the right decision for me and the type of personality that I have. Thank you for taking the time to read my ridiculously long post! Again any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. :)
  21. Hello, Does anybody know of any PA programs that don't look at your entire cumulative GPA? I heard that some programs will only look at your last 45 to 60 hours from your degree to consider you. My freshman and sophomore I had mostly B/C's and my junior/senior year of college was all A's/B's. My undergrad GPA was 2.8 and I have retaken a lot of my science and prerequisite courses over again from nearly 10 years ago and have achieved all A's. What bothers me is that my 2.8 will always be set in stone and I can't do anything about that. Any info would be appreciated Thanks,
  22. I am an ED RN, have been for a few years now. I have always worked rural ED and been fortunate to be in this specialty even as a new grad. I have my ADN and recently finished my BSN and am looking at the ND PA school. I have strong references and work experience, but my GPA is not as good as I would hope. I had to work all through nursing school and faced some challenges in my personal life. I have a science GPA of 2.86, over all of 3.02 and 3.30 in my BSN program. Is that enough to make me a candidate for this program? Or should I retake sciences? Maybe get a masters in nursing first? I really want to continue on and become a rural ED provider and stay in rural Wyoming. I feel that the PA curriculum is better set up for this vs the NP. Thanks in advance.
  23. Please feel free to critique away. Any help is greatly appreciated. I have never had one moment in my life that screamed “I want to be a PA”. I cannot sit here and write an essay solely based on one life altering experience. For me it has been all of the different experiences, jobs, and people that have culminated in to this dream. It started with a young childhood desire to help people, then my time in the Navy, and finally my work in clinical research. Growing up I used to tell everyone that someday I was going to heal people. No one in my family works in medicine and growing up I had very little exposure to any medical field. None of that mattered to me though I was drawn to medicine, the challenge, the details, understanding the way the human body works. I loved it. I would be the one to bandage up my younger siblings when they got hurt. My little sister once tried to light her jeans on fire. As you can imagine this did not turn out well for her. She burned her leg pretty badly. I was the oldest and my parents were not home so I was the one that took care of her. The idea of being able to help people that couldn’t help themselves made me feel complete. It was the only area that even as a child I knew it was perfect for me. I joined the Navy when I was 17. Originally I had wanted to be a corpsman but that was just not a possibility at that time. Instead I ended up working in avionics. At first I thought that this was a step in the wrong direction but looking back I am grateful for all of the lessons I learned. The more knowledge I have of what it means to be a PA that more I understand there are certain skills that you must have. One of the more important ones is the ability to work on a team as well as be a leader. These are two traits that I can attribute completely to my time as a sailor. I learned that you have to be flexible and adapt to any situation you enter in to. Whether it is jumping on a corrosion busting team or supervising a shop of 80 people working on avionics, you have to be ready for any situation. After college I needed to find a job. In what would turn out to be a life changing opportunity I got a job as a Clinical Research Coordinator. Working as a CRC was a doorway into patient care for me. I had patients that I personally got to work with on a regular basis. I got to learn more about working in a clinic and a lab. I gained valuable technical experience during this time. However, for me the most important thing I gained from this job was my very first opportunity to work hand in hand with multiple PA’s. I was able to work with as well as shadow all of them. I saw every day their interactions with the patients, every aspect of their daily job from start to finish. I also got to hear first hand from our patients how great they were to work with. I learned about their backgrounds and their inspiration for entering this profession. I started to realize that this was the job I wanted. The PA career fits everything I want for my life. I was fortunate that I was able to work so closely with a number of different PA’s. The one resounding aspect of this job is that every one of them had multiple reasons for going in to this field. They were all looking for something different and experiences throughout their life had led them down this path. I am proud of my life and all of the experiences I have had. It’s because of these opportunities that I know becoming a physician assistant is the fulfillment of a lifelong dream.
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