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  1. Hi everyone! So I am in a unique situation that makes getting HCE quite difficult. Currently I am pursuing a bachelor's degree in Biochemistry from a a very small school that has a required co-op in order to graduate. Due to this required co-op I move every 3 months between school and work. My co-op job is actually in a chemistry lab doing organic synthesis work in research and development. Due to this hectic schedule, the 11 weeks I am at school I am swamped with schoolwork since I typically take a 20 credit class load. On the other hand during work term I work from 8-5 everyday and then at least once a week make the half-hour trip to go shadow some PAs in the ER at a local hospital. Due to this co-op schedule, my undergraduate program is a 4.5 year program instead of 4, however, by the time I graduate I will have 2 years of real work experience. Since my program is a 4.5 year program, I will be graduating in December of 2014 and I really would prefer to start PA school in 2015 instead of having to take off over a year from school. I was wondering if anybody had any advice on what avenues I could pursue to help procure some HCE hours that would fit into my crazy schedule. Also I would like some advice on how to improve my chances of getting into PA school. Posted below is my GPA along with other information: Science GPA: ~3.25 (I go to a school that only offers sciences and engineering. That being said I also was taking organic chemistry along with my physics classes and not being able to eat due to some weird stomach condition that took over a year for doctors to diagnose.) Cumulative GPA: ~3.39 (I plan on bringing this up quite a bit since I still have 3 more school terms left, and these classes are also more biology based which I excel at. The reason my GPA is so low is due to organic chemistry ©, physics ©, and calculus (1-3) classes©.) Extra Information Vice-President of Pre-Med Club for the past two years GEO (Greener Engineering Organization) During my work terms I shadow PAs in the ER Aquaneers (Scuba Diving Club) Job Shadow Gastroenterologist Hands on Job Shadow Hospital County Morgue Research and Development Chemist (Co-op Job, Since June 2011) President of Gamma Sigma Epsilon Chemistry Honor Society Department Volunteer ( I give tours to potential students of our labs during our school open houses, and tell potential students and parents about the program and the co-op program) Doctor for a Day Volunteer I know its not very much and I would really appreciate any suggestions on how to strengthen my application. I was debating between medical school and PA school but after talking to many people and hours of research, I found that PA school is the right decision for me and the type of personality that I have. Thank you for taking the time to read my ridiculously long post! Again any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. :)
  2. Hello, Does anybody know of any PA programs that don't look at your entire cumulative GPA? I heard that some programs will only look at your last 45 to 60 hours from your degree to consider you. My freshman and sophomore I had mostly B/C's and my junior/senior year of college was all A's/B's. My undergrad GPA was 2.8 and I have retaken a lot of my science and prerequisite courses over again from nearly 10 years ago and have achieved all A's. What bothers me is that my 2.8 will always be set in stone and I can't do anything about that. Any info would be appreciated Thanks,
  3. I am an ED RN, have been for a few years now. I have always worked rural ED and been fortunate to be in this specialty even as a new grad. I have my ADN and recently finished my BSN and am looking at the ND PA school. I have strong references and work experience, but my GPA is not as good as I would hope. I had to work all through nursing school and faced some challenges in my personal life. I have a science GPA of 2.86, over all of 3.02 and 3.30 in my BSN program. Is that enough to make me a candidate for this program? Or should I retake sciences? Maybe get a masters in nursing first? I really want to continue on and become a rural ED provider and stay in rural Wyoming. I feel that the PA curriculum is better set up for this vs the NP. Thanks in advance.
  4. Please feel free to critique away. Any help is greatly appreciated. I have never had one moment in my life that screamed “I want to be a PA”. I cannot sit here and write an essay solely based on one life altering experience. For me it has been all of the different experiences, jobs, and people that have culminated in to this dream. It started with a young childhood desire to help people, then my time in the Navy, and finally my work in clinical research. Growing up I used to tell everyone that someday I was going to heal people. No one in my family works in medicine and growing up I had very little exposure to any medical field. None of that mattered to me though I was drawn to medicine, the challenge, the details, understanding the way the human body works. I loved it. I would be the one to bandage up my younger siblings when they got hurt. My little sister once tried to light her jeans on fire. As you can imagine this did not turn out well for her. She burned her leg pretty badly. I was the oldest and my parents were not home so I was the one that took care of her. The idea of being able to help people that couldn’t help themselves made me feel complete. It was the only area that even as a child I knew it was perfect for me. I joined the Navy when I was 17. Originally I had wanted to be a corpsman but that was just not a possibility at that time. Instead I ended up working in avionics. At first I thought that this was a step in the wrong direction but looking back I am grateful for all of the lessons I learned. The more knowledge I have of what it means to be a PA that more I understand there are certain skills that you must have. One of the more important ones is the ability to work on a team as well as be a leader. These are two traits that I can attribute completely to my time as a sailor. I learned that you have to be flexible and adapt to any situation you enter in to. Whether it is jumping on a corrosion busting team or supervising a shop of 80 people working on avionics, you have to be ready for any situation. After college I needed to find a job. In what would turn out to be a life changing opportunity I got a job as a Clinical Research Coordinator. Working as a CRC was a doorway into patient care for me. I had patients that I personally got to work with on a regular basis. I got to learn more about working in a clinic and a lab. I gained valuable technical experience during this time. However, for me the most important thing I gained from this job was my very first opportunity to work hand in hand with multiple PA’s. I was able to work with as well as shadow all of them. I saw every day their interactions with the patients, every aspect of their daily job from start to finish. I also got to hear first hand from our patients how great they were to work with. I learned about their backgrounds and their inspiration for entering this profession. I started to realize that this was the job I wanted. The PA career fits everything I want for my life. I was fortunate that I was able to work so closely with a number of different PA’s. The one resounding aspect of this job is that every one of them had multiple reasons for going in to this field. They were all looking for something different and experiences throughout their life had led them down this path. I am proud of my life and all of the experiences I have had. It’s because of these opportunities that I know becoming a physician assistant is the fulfillment of a lifelong dream.
  5. I would love to get any advice/words of wisdom regarding my chances of getting into P.A. school. My overall undergrad GPA is only a 3.3. I minored in Communications many moons ago and that brought my GPA down with some C's. My major was Political Science and my degree GPA was a 3.60. The last year or year-and-a-half during my undergrad I made straight A's. That was back in 2001 when I graduated from the University of Iowa. I lived overseas post-graduation for a few years, and most recently was a paralegal for 6 or so years. The last couple of years I have been taking p.a. science pre-req classes. I only have 3 science prereqs to left to take and so far I have gotten a 4.0 in all of my classes (about 35 hours). I will have about 10 more hours to complete after this semester and then I will be done. I am really worried about my GPA though, since a lot of schools seem to have a mean overall GPA of about a 3.7 (am I right?) and mine is probably only at about a 3.4. However, I am in an "academic fraternity" Phi Beta Kapa, which is really a bunch of people who have good grades and do community service work, which I am hoping will help. I also just recently got hired at a hospital as a Clinical Assistant, so I am gaining direct patient care hours. I still have to take the GRE. So, some of my questions are: What do you think my chances are to get into P.A. school? Do schools look at overall GPA, or do they focus more on science G.P.A.? (The only science class I took in my undergrad was A & P about 15 years ago - C's in that - I just took Anatomy last semester and got an A. I am pretty confident I will do well next fall in physio). So, my overall science prereqs will be fairly close to a 4.0 - save that A&P grade from 15 years ago when I was 17 years old and a college freshman. Thanks so much! Jenny
  6. Right now I am a sophomore at BU going into Spring semester and I took a Journalism class last semester and received a D because I wasn't able to write the last final article because of an emergency flight home. Got a 0 on the final and my grade plummeted from a B+ to a D. This dropped my GPA from 3.1 to a 2.78. I really want to become a PA. The idea of assisting a doctor is so enticing. I have already signed up to begin volunteering at the local hospital starting next month (which I will continue till I graduate). If I get mostly A's I can graduate with a 3.2 - 3.4 GPA, but I feel like this is not nearly enough. I plan to begin shadowing PA's and doctors as soon as I can meet some. What else should I do to help myself get accepted into a PA school right after college?? I will do ANYTHING else. I heard getting EMT certified may boost chances. Please help! I really really wish for nothing more than to become a PA! Thank you in advance, I look forward to hearing everyone's reply!
  7. Any tips on things to add or change would be greatly appreciated! As you guys know, these can be tough to get out. My conclussion is week but I'm blanking on ways to wrap this up. “Welcome to Kyrgyzstan!” my taxi driver greeted me in Russian after I had loaded my luggage into the trunk of his decades-old Lada. Arriving well past midnight on Turkish Airlines flight 346, I caught a fleeting glimpse of the mountainous Central Asian country that was to become my home as an English teacher for the next year as we sped past shuttered bazaars and Soviet-era highrises. Although I had focused on how environmental toxicants affect human health while conducting laboratory research as an undergraduate Environmental Protection Agency Fellow, actually getting on the ground in developing countries--from the desolate mountain villages of Kyrgyzstan to the war torn streets of Tajikistan-- led me to begin reflecting on the health disparities underserved populations face not only overseas but also in our own country. While my grandmother’s positive experiences with an orthopedic physician assistant (PA) who had stopped by her house to check on her after her knee replacement surgery and whom she still claims is “better than a doctor” had initially made me consider pursuing my passion for the study of medicine in the service of others as a PA, it was not until I was lying in an understaffed medical clinic in India midway through my year teaching in Kyrgyzstan that my dedication to pursuing this calling was truly cemented. Suffering a Grade Three concussion after a car I had been riding in had spun out of control and crashed into a building, I had been taken to a free clinic in Delhi to get my head stitched back together. Medical waste spilled out of overflowing trash cans and seemingly hundreds of coughing, bleeding, and sick Indians lined the hallways as the understaffed team sought to treat everyone. Due to the shortage of doctors and nurses, I was in the hospital nearly 14 hours before a medical attendant could provide the needed stitches. My experience with a hospital in a country with high rates of poverty and infectious diseases solidified my commitment to serving others through a hands-on medical career as a PA. I arrived home to Texas and began fervently pursuing this goal. Working in the Providence Hospital Emergency Room (ER) has provided me with an up-close look at the healthcare challenges the disadvantaged in Central Texas face, complementing my firsthand knowledge of global medical issues. These challenges include everything from lack of insurance to substance abuse problems that cause permanent physical and mental damage. I have sat for several hours with an elderly Alzheimer’s patient who almost brought tears to my eyes while we waited for her test results and witnessed the emotional pain on a woman’s face when she was told an ectopic pregnancy would have to be surgically removed. In such cases I am struck by the indomitable spirit and inherent decency of people even in situations that are truly heartbreaking. The people I have met while volunteering in the ER inspire and challenge me to continue pursuing a calling to serve others through medicine. While frequently all I can offer is a much-too-small helping hand or comforting words, these are usually more greatly appreciated than I initially thought they would be. It is because of a burning desire to be able to do more for people such as these, a wish to practice medicine while also leading a fulfilling life dedicated jointly to my patients and my family, and many positive experiences shadowing PAs that I desire to become a one myself. The Kyrgyz taxi driver pulled up to the curve of the apartment building of the Russian family I would be living with for the next few months and I hopped out of the cab into the frigid night air. I was nervous, but excited. New adventures were on the horizon. While I did not know the sometimes seemingly indomitable challenges that awaited my life and work in Kyrgyzstan, I was ready to begin tackling them. Looking back at the year I spent in Central Asia, I now know we often grow the most in times of hardship. When I take my first step onto a medical college on my journey to become a PA, I will bring with me a commitment to service above self, academic excellence, and continued personal growth. Conclusion here...?
  8. Eastern is starting a PA Program in May of 2014, pending accreditation next September. Site: http://www.emich.edu/chhs/pa.html Admissions info: http://www.emich.edu/chhs/pdf/PA%20Admissions%20Info%208-21-12.pdf Looks like there's an info session on December 10th for those in the area.
  9. If anyone can help me out, give me helpful documents or advice itd be great.... I have recently graduated from UCI with a B.S. in Biological Science and I am currently working with a team of oncologists and infectious disease physicians as a medical assistant/phlebotomist. Common duties include, but not limited to are: taking and recording vital signs and medical histories, preparing patients for examination, drawing blood and related lab work, authorize drug refills and provide prescription information to pharmacies, and perform general front office tasks when needed. I am planning on applying to dual degree programs to attain my MBA/MPA, so that I can work for both aspects of the healthcare field, both the business side and patient contact side. I am currently working with a Healthcare Administrator as well doing EMR related work as well. My main concern and constant debate is whether my academic background needs strengthening by enrolling in a post-bac program, or if I would be a good applicant to apply straight for PA programs. I want to ultimately attend a good P.A. school and attain that degree. My undergraduate gpa was 2.8, no GRE (yet), and by the time I apply I will have accumulated close to 2000+ HCE hours. I am really confused as to what I should do, I understand I am young but I do not want to waste any time, I want to try and make the best choice I can...Post-bac then apply, apply straight to PA programs, or get a masters/increase gpa and then apply.... IDK! If anyone can help me out thatd be awesome! Thanks
  10. Hi all, I am new to this forum so I hope that I will be able to receive helpful information from all of you. I just applied for PA school in June 2012. I applied to UTMB (rejected), Baylor College of Medicine, UT Pan American, UT Southwestern, and UNT Health Science Center. My GPA is low. I took some basic classes at a community college and my GPA at the community college is a 3.4. I attend a private university in TX and my overall GPA is 2.9. Does CASPA average the 2 GPAs? My science GPA is less than a 3.0. My GRE scores are: Verbal (138), Quant (144), and Analytical (4.0). I volunteered at a medical clinic and shadowed a medical doctor. What are my chances of getting into any of these schools? I have had sleepless nights about this. I don't want to fail and let down myself. Anyone please reply, thanks.
  11. I'm a recent graduate with a B.S. in Athletic Training and I am currently a Post Bacc Pre Med student in the Philadelphia area. After some research it seems that I have a low to okay (3.3-3.4) GPA and i feel that it is not the strongest part of my application. I feel that if interviewed I would be able to present myself much better than my GPA would reflect. I was informed from a professor that some schools tend to determine their application based mostly on you paper application and will write you off after looking at the numbers. Where others will base their decisons on interviews and other aspects of the application rather than just the numbers. Any suggestions on schools in Pennsylvania or the Philadelphia area that base their application on more than just the numbers would be great. Thanks MWS89
  12. So im a senior at Ohio state university with a semester to go and a 2.4 gpa. my gre scores were 140 verbal and 143 quantitative. however, i have been a lead pharmacy technician at a highly recognized hospital for the past four years and was wondering my chances of getting into any pa programs. I no people are tired of answering these types of questions, but im getting panic attacks wondering. Please help! and any information on bettering my chances besides retaking classes would be helpful. im currently at the max credits for college.
  13. I am applying to four PA programs. My GRE scores are 86th percentile Verbal, 35th percentile quantitative, and 4.0 analytical. What can I say, I'm a nervous test taker. My CASPA calculated GPA is 3.07 overall, though in my nursing degree my GPA was 3.2 (these classes were taken more recently than my first undergrad degree). I have three excellent references, a killer personal statement, and over 10,000 hours of experience. Do you think I still have a chance of admission, even though my GRE quantitative score and GPA are not spectacular?
  14. Hey everyone, I'm a paramedic in L.A. County, live in Huntington Beach and am almost done with prereqs for RCC's program. Was wondering if anyone has any personal knowledge of the average number of attempts it takes to gain entry into RCC's PA program. I'd hate to sit around for several years applying with my fingers crossed! :D mb
  15. Hello...i have a bachelors professional degree as a pa...but now i'm wondering which direction should i pursue a masters in...is there any future for a well paid reasonable job in informatics or should i get a masters in teaching as this allow me to be part of faculty but whose jobs are few and far between...any advise guys....where does the future in informatics lie for pa as a profession...what do u think?
  16. Just what the topic asks. Does anybody know if there are any PA schools in particular that focus on, say, the last two years of your undergrad as opposed to looking at your cumulative GPA? I know many med schools do this, because it seems to be a general rule that most students don't do so hot in their first years. Also, I notice that a lot of schools want around a 3.0 GPA when applying. I'm a Canadian student so I was wondering what the GPA conversion would be. Over here in Canada on a 4.0 scale, a 70-72% is considered a B- and is weighed as a 2.7. So if someone had a GPA around that (a B-), what are their chances to get into an American PA school? Thanks guys!
  17. OHSU is my top choice, but I'm concerned that I won't stack up for an interview if the all the accepted students fit in the "average GPA" posted online. Could some of the people invited for an interview/accepted give me an idea if there is a range here, and let me know if they think I have a shot. I'm applying the 2012-2013 cycle, currently working on a BS with a 3.3 GPA, 3.1 science, with 85 science credits so far. I took the new GRE and it translates to an 1170-1190 from the old one, 4.5 writing portion. I was in the army as a medic for four years with a 15 month deployment where I earned a combat medical badge and a bronze star medal for action. I will be finishing my Bachelors degree in a total of 2 and 3/4 years, which is surely why my GPA suffered, but wanted to get done under the GI Bill. I probably should have slowed down and taken the loans. I have years of volunteering in high school with a Search and Rescue team as well as various other activities including being a founder/president of a club, currently volunteer at a free medical clinic (9 months so far) but only get about 6 hours a month since it's a college town and everyone wants hours. I did a weeklong medical mission in Honduras through Global Medical Brigades. I am pretty sure I will have a good essay as I am typically a much better writer than science student, and am having an excellent writer edit for me. My EMT-B from the army days is expired, so I won't be able to include that certificate on my CASPA application, as far as I know. Thanks in advance to anyone who wants to give me some input.
  18. Hey everyone, I'm considering Barry and didn't find any stats on the accepted students. I may have just not found it, but could some of the recently accepted or current students give me some idea about the typical accepted applicant?
  19. I am slowly trying to accept the fact that PA school may be out of reach for me. I'm a traditional college student (sophomore) and I already have plenty of HCE hours and quite few prerequisites done for PA schools. But my GPA is going down with each semester. I work hard, study, get help when I need and I still can't break those B's in science classes. My major and science GPA is 3.0. It's painful to even write this. When I read about people who have 3.8 or 4.0 GPA (especially in science), I wonder how they achieved those grades. I know hard work is number one reason, but I work hard too. Now, I'm starting to think that maybe I chose the wrong school. I go to a large, public university (very heavy on research). In each of my science/math classes there are anywhere from 100-400 people. It's not a bad school (one of the better ones in my state), but getting an A seems impossible to earn. Here are some exam averages in percentages for science classes at my school: - General Chemistry: 50's - Organic Chemistry: 30's - Physics: 20's to 40's - Calculus: 40's - General Biology: 60's to 70's - Advanced Bio classes: 40's to low 70's Obviously, professors curve them or everyone would fail. These are not stupid people. You would not believe how competitive some students are. And keep in mind that majority of people who take these classes are either pre-med, pre-pharmacy, pre-dental, and engineering majors. Most of the time exams count for 70-90% of grade and there are usually 2-4 exams per class so if you screw on one of them, you screw up your entire grade. So, I'm just asking if this is how classes are everywhere. What were your class averages (not yours) for science classes?
  20. Hello, I am currently in the middle of taking my prerequisites for PA school, and am looking for some advice. I am 26 years old, and should be done with my prereqs by December of this year with an anticipated 3.7-3.8 science GPA post-bac. I graduated with a B.S. in science education with a 3.12 GPA (my first year was not so hot), and am currently am taking an EMT-B course, and will be certified by the end of this summer. The question is: will I have a competitive package applying for the October 1st deadline for this year with my limited HCE? I have also had community experience with working as a Ed-tech and volunteering hours for tutoring and with the local habitat for humanity.The last year has been completely devoted to putting myself in a position for a chance of getting into PA school, and am jumping at the chance to apply to schools with my pre-reqs/HCE in progress. Does anyone know of the schools that require minimal HCE? Any advice on any of the above would be greatly appreciated! Thanks so much.
  21. This is my first time applying to Western for their PA program to which I currently have Overall: 3.1 Science: 2.93 Pre-requisite: 3.53 Community Service: 2,838 hours (From 2001-2011) I am currently re-taking Microbiology (received a C at my University for the first time) at a J.C. which ends in 2 weeks and I will be finishing out with an A which would bring my Pre-req GPA to a 3.73 yet I'm not sure how it would affect my overall and science GPA's. I obviously need to work on my science GPA but is there anything else I can do to become a stronger, serious candidate? I have faith I can get in maybe, if not this cycle, then the next which I plan on taking a few psych classes to build my science GPA. Also as a side note, within the 2,838 hours I've also shadowed an Orthopedic PA if that helps for about 40 hours.
  22. I've seen a few discussions about PA+EMT-P and PA+NP, but what the benefits of having both your PA-C and regular RN? The hospital I work at will pay for a 15 month non-nursing Bachelor's-to-BSN program, which is enticing for several reasons if I don't make it into a program this round. The 2 weakest parts of my application are my overall GPA (from my first time through school) and my limited amount of upper level science classes. This program would get me 55 hours of credits which would (assuming I do as well as I have in my prereqs) significantly boost my GPA. Also, as an RN, I could get a better paying job (right now I'm a PCT/EMT-B) while I take classes/wait for a program to start/PRN over holidays/etc. The down side is doing this could delay taking additional prereqs that would allow me to apply to other schools. So, I would ask you: 1) is it worth it to delay/limit my application? 2) what value would having an RN license afford me in combination with my PA-C 3) is it realistic to maintain both PA-C and RN? 4) How would an Adcom view this decision?
  23. I graduated from PA school in 1992. I worked for a solid seven years as a PA. I chose to stay home for 10 years to raise and start a family. I am now ready to go back to work. I have sent out many resumes. Those that have responded said they can't hire me because I don't have recent experience. I am certified in ACLS AND PALS and studying for the recert PA exam. How so I get back into the profession I loved so much. Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.
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