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  1. Hey all -- New to the forum. I'm a post-BA student with a degree in Geography/Economics, where I focused on community development and the more sociological side of things... Years after my graduation, I decided to take the plunge into the medical field instead. I currently am an EMS worker with the goal to be involved with the Global Health field in the future (main interest in water/sanitation/infectious diseases, etc.).. Given the short background, my thought process is directed at doing a P.A. program with the hopes of being able to utilize that both domestically and abroad... SO -- I suppose my main questions are: 1.) Does this seem like a good approach, given my main interest being in global health? I'm currently 29 -- so to try and backtrack at this point and attempt to go to Med School seems like an idea I'm being nudged away from... especially from physicians I've met en route at hospitals and others that I know. Additionally -- I'm wondering if there are any sorts of databases that show P.A. programs with International Clinical Elective rotations? Going from site to site to try and find my best case scenario is becoming somewhat wasteful in terms of time utilization it seems. OR -- better yet, have you heard of any programs that seem to offer this opportunity and/or are the best types of programs for this interest? May seem like a pretty broad and rounded question, but thought maybe you all could offer some insight. Thanks a ton! Michael
  2. Two questions! 1) Does anyone have experience with retaking the GRE? My unofficial verbal reasoning score was wonderful, but I need to up my quant score. Will it look badly if I skip the sections I've already done well in for a program that takes the best scores from multiple tests (this may be program-dependent, just wanted to throw this q out there). 2) Has anyone's official "scaled" GRE score been different than the score noted on your screen the day of the exam?
  3. Hello all, I will be moving to Chicago at the end of May. I was wondering if anyone had any connections or knew of any job postings that would count towards HCE hours for school (MA, scribe, etc.). I currently work as a medical scribe, but if anyone knows maybe some MA jobs that don’t require experience and will train. Thanks!
  4. Hi all, I'm currently taking a general chemistry class, microbiology, and physiology. Prior to the semester, I had heard from multiple sources not to take micro and physio in the same semester but was a bit overconfident after getting all A's in the previous semester. In any case, I'm currently getting an A in Chem, a low A/high B in micro, and a low B in physio. I feel like I'm operating at 90% capacity already and often don't have enough time to study for all of my classes. If I stick it out, I think I can pull an A and 2 B's. But if I drop physio, I'm confident I'd have enough time to study to get 2 A's in Chem and Micro, with plans to retake Physio in the fall. Further complicating this is the fact that I'm a post-bacc student and have quite a few W's from my first time in college (that was about 8-10 years ago), though I haven't had any since I started my post-bacc studies. Should I drop physiology and retake it in the fall? Thank you all in advance for any advice!
  5. So I got a degree in Psychology & Behavioral Science with a minor in biology but didn't take a couple of my behavioral science classes seriously after choosing to go into the medical field and earned two Ds. In an attempt to improve my GPA I decided to try and be superman in my last semester and took 21 units while working full time, including the 6 that I was attempting to make up. I realized a little bit too late in the semester that I wasn't going to be able to keep up with those two make up while trying to juggle everything else and ended up missing the withdrawal date. I received F's for these two classes. I want to know if this will completely blow my chances of getting into PA school. I have an overall GPA of 3.35 (not counting the two F's), a science GPA of 3.49, & a pre-req GPA (depending on the program) of 3.65-3.70. Do I still have a chance?
  6. If I took classes at a community college (many pre-reqs), after already completing a bachelor degree, then if it considered post-bacc? If so then it doesn't count into my overall gpa? Or how does it work
  7. I am in the final few weeks of my freshman year of college. I came in pre-nursing but realized I wasn't cut out for it. I got a 3.16 GPA first semester, and second semester has been a complete disaster, Biology, and anatomy I am barely passing, but nutrition and psychology I should be able to 4.0. I plan on retaking bio and anatomy, but with a 3.0 GPA freshman year is it possible to build up my GPA enough to get into PA school? Also, I am deciding what major to choose for my undergrad since Pre-nursing isn't a major, I was thinking kinesiology but I'm not sure. I am trying to work as a CNA in the summer and working with a non-profit to put on my apps. Sorry for the information overload but I am scared I won't be able to get in any programs and be stuck with a useless degree. Any words of encouragement or advice is greatly appreciated!
  8. I'm attending Arizona State University online. I live in Georgia and I'm 24 years old. ASU is a quarter-based system, which means I get college credits on a quarterly basis instead of a semester basis. All PA and AA schools (I'm interested in both) require a certain amount of prerequisite hours, but at ASU, I would be about an hour or two short in a lot of them, like biology, chemistry, organic chemistry, etc. So, me getting a degree in biology from ASU is kind of pointless, because I'd have to take some additional prerequisite classes at my local college anyways. I should also mention I have a job (in aviation) that pays pretty well - about $60,000 a year. I am also in the process of getting my Surgical Technician certifications, but this will take a year or so. With this being said, I have two options: A: Get my Surgical Tech school done and take a really low course load at ASU for Biology to ensure I maintain as close to a 4.0 as possible. Get about 60 of 120 credits from ASU (amount needed to transfer), then transfer to the University of Georgia. Finish my degree in biology, but live off loans. Try to find a part-time CST job while in Athens to keep them as low as possible. Continue with a low class load to keep a good GPA. This way, I'm keeping my grades high, but still getting some crucial clinical experience. Eventually graduate from UGA, a highly respected school in Georgia, with a degree in Biology. Then apply to programs. Most will be far away, so if I get accepted into one of those, I'll also probably have to live off loans for the two years of AA or PA school. Lots of debt, but better undergrad, experience (in life and classwork), and higher caliber school. B: Buy a mobile home for a great price ($13k practically brand new) - a home right next to my parent's. In 3 years, it'll be paid off and cost me half as much as renting. Continue my degree at Arizona State University (online) in something like psychology, since my prerequisites won't count the same anyways. Minor in personal health. Get my Surgical Tech school done and work part-time while attending ASU. Finish my psychology degree, then take the right prerequisites at my local college. Don't live off any student loans until I get accepted into AA or PA school. Option A seems nice. I can go to UGA, graduate with a degree in Biology, have that prestigious college (at least for my state) attached to my degree, finish everything on a physical campus, have easier access to volunteering in research studies at the campus, have 100% of my focus on my school and GPA (this is important as grades don't come naturally to me), and pretty much devote my life to making sure my prerequisites and overall GPA are top notch. The bad - I'd live off loans and accumulate a lot more debt and UGA is harder (could be a good thing for preparation) in their expectations. A lot of good, but the two bad are related to more debt and harder to get a good GPA. Option B seems good too, but not as appealing. I'll undergrad in psychology and minor in personal health (biology/chem/etc not available). Take all the right prerequisites at a local college that should be easier to pass versus UGA's standards. Save money by working as a Surgical Tech and paying $500/mo in a mortgage payment versus $1,000/mo for an apartment. SORRY TO RAMBLE. What's your opinion?
  9. Hey everyone I just have a question about health care experience and which is best when applying to PA school. I go to Miami Dade College here in south florida, any PA's from my school that graduated will help. I am in my 2nd year of earning my bachelors in Health science with an option of physician assistant studies. I have two options which I feel I like and they Phlebotomist, and caregiver. Now I am not sure if caregiver is accepted for PA schools but I found it on the "inside pa training" website. I like caregiver because my family actually owns a nursing home and it would be great if I can get hours right at my house but I am not sure if that is also accepted for PA schools (getting hours at a family owned business I mean). I would have too check with them first but if they do agree that it is fine would being a caregiver be the best option for me? I was considering EMT but I do think the job is a little too managing for me at the moment. I also found CNA which is also something I could do in a nursing home.
  10. Hello all! I'm a recent CU Denver graduate and a first-generation student. I'm applying to PA school this year, but I'm having a little trouble finding PA's to shadow . I'd love to gain more exposure to sports med, emergency med, ortho, surgery, psych, or primary care, but I'd also be more than happy to shadow under any other setting. If there are any PA shadowing opportunities out there, then please let me know! Thanks!
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    Hi I'm a undergrade pre pa student. I have one semester where ill be pretty much finishing up my last credits before graduation. Can someone recommend a pharmacology book that can get me mentally prepared for what to come ? Or simply any books that you think will get a pre pa student prepared in general.
  12. Hey everyone! Does anyone know the exact time that CASPA opens? Is it midnight? 8am? I am going to be out of town on April 26th, the day it opens for the 2018-2019 cycle, and knowing this will be helpful in determining the time at which I should set aside for starting my application. Thank you!
  13. Hello, I'm interested in pursuing a career in PA. However, I haven't taken all the pre-reqs for it and I'm a junior with public health major. Im trying to graduate by may 2019. I have taken Bio 1, Gen chem 1 and 2, Physics 1, stats, English and Calculus. However i still have to take Bio 2, Anatomy and physiology 1&2, microbio, and organic chem 1&2. I was thinking of taking these courses at a different university. My Cumulative GPA is 3.01. I want to complete my Public Health bachelors at my current college but i want to take the left over Pre-reqs for PA at a different college at the same time. The reason i want to take classes at two different colleges is that I want to get my bachelors as soon as I can. Also the science courses at my current college are so MUCH harder compared to other colleges in the area. I cant risk my gPA to drop as it is bad already. Do you guys think is it possible? Would PA schools care that i have pre reqs from different colleges?
  14. I’m currently attending a quarterly-based credit college and get 3 credits in some of my crucial prerequisite classes. All the pre-pa programs I’ve looked at say something along the lines of “Organic Chemistry - 3 semester hours or 4 quarter hours” but my college only gives 3 quarter hours for a class like this. I have no idea what I’m supposed to do. If my college gives 3 hours when I need 4, how do I get that additional hour? So confused!
  15. Is a degree in a natural science like chemistry or biology more beneficial than a degree in something like psychology? Does one prepare you more for PA school than another? I was going to go to college for a Bachelor of Science in Psychology with a minor in Personal Health. Obviously, my end goal is to become a PA. I’m currently in the process of becoming a surgical technician, and would like to be a surgical PA. When I look at actual PA programs curriculum (at least near me), they don’t seem to be heavily science-based in terms of like Organic Chemistry, Biology, etc other than the prerequisites to get accepted. Once you get accepted though, the context looks a lot less detailed on those things. Am I missing something? From my perspective, a psychology degree would be just as beneficial as biology. Am I wrong?
  16. My genetics professor is writing a letter of recommendation for me and she wants me to make a Cv and pretty much a list of what PA schools are looking for in an applicant. What I have now is Responsible Individual Skillful Demonstrate flexibility and ability to adapt to new situations Professionalism Maturity Compassion for individuals in diverse ethnic, cultural and religious backgrounds. Knowledge of Health Care System Does anyone have any ideas of what I can add to this list ?
  17. Hi there! Looking for advice on if I have a chance at PA school, also recommended schools to apply. Biggest problem is low GPA. Here is a summary of my background. New to this forum, thanks in advance for your feedback: BS Biology-3.2 GPA with two Fs and a D (ouch!! had some tragic life circumstances and made poor choices not to withdraw), graduated 2010 GRE: verbal-156 (73rd percentile) / quant-155 (59th percentile) / analytical writing-4.0 (60th percentile) Returned Peace Corps Volunteer with 4,000 volunteer hours of health and education service HCE hours: 1200 as a clinical tech, direct patient care MPH from Rollins School of Public Health at Emory University (top-tier school), graduate in May of this year, current GPA is 3.8 (big change from undergrad!) Plan is to take A&P 1 and 2 this Fall and next Spring and start applying next Spring (2019). Over the next year, after I graduate, I also hope to get over 100 hours of PA shadowing. Additional info: research experience with the CDC, UNICEF, and The Carter Center (all public health related , but not clinical). Switching to PA because I have learned in grad school that I prefer to have direct contact with patients, public health is too behind the scenes, too much desk work, I need an active job helping people where I can see the impact on the patients I help, instead of seeing it in the epi trend lines. :)
  18. Hello all - I am nearing the end of my required prerequisites for a lot of schools, but some of the schools I am interested in, whom allow for prerequisites to still be in progress, have a couple of prerequisites that I won’t have finished early in the cycle. My question: Do you all think, with rolling admissions, I will be at a disadvantage submitting my application with the prereq’s in progress? I am ultimately wondering if I should submit application in May with incomplete prereq’s or wait until August once prereq’s are complete, to submit? Thank you all in advance! Sean
  19. Hello! So I am definitely reapplying this year. Last year was my first time applying and I made the mistake of sending my application in summer instead of when the portal opened. Since then I have taken a few extra courses, acquired more HCE (almost doubled) and am planning on changing jobs to get a different experience. I was wondering how I should adapt my essay to this new cycle? Obviously I do not want to send in the exact same essay, but my feelings about being a PA are still the same. I was interviewed by a few top ranked programs but did not get in because of the large applicant pool (according to the admissions offices). I usually do well in job interviews so I would hope my interviewing skills are not terrible, but maybe they just don't stand out as much when there are many others because I'm not a complete extrovert? I'm not really sure what exactly went wrong there. Also, should I reapply to the programs that interviewed me and rejected me as well? I would appreciate all the advice I can get! Thanks! :)
  20. Hello everyone, I'm curious to hear from others about their stories of switching to pre-pa after graduating in a different field. I graduated in 2016 with a 3.5 gpa as an English/Marketing major and have been working admin in a nutrition company ever since. At my job I got exposed to many different health care professionals and became interested in pursuing a PA career. I've been taking classes at a local community college this past year while still working a full time job. I plan on getting my cna license in the fall to start working on my HCE. I guess I'm curious as to what my chances are. - Will it look bad on my transcript that I only took one or two classes a quarter at the community college? I had to balance working enough hours for rent and such with taking classes but so far I've gotten all As. - Will my former English/Marketing major hurt my chances? I would appreciate any advice anyone has to give. Thanks!
  21. I applied to the Touro College's non-matriculated student program in order to begin pre-reqs for PA school. I would love to attend the Touro Manhattan PA program, and thought that doing my pre-reqs there would perhaps give me a leg up. I applied in December of 2017, it is now March 2018 and I have not received any indication of whether I was accepted or not, my application status still says submitted, and I just wondering if this has happened to anyone else. I have contacted them via email multiple times with no response. Also, if there are any suggestions on whether or not doing the pre-reqs for PA school at Touro itself is a good idea/ looked at positively by the admissions staff, I'd appreciate it! Thank you
  22. Hey all! I've been going through my list of schools I wish to apply to, however some of the programs I'm interested in require that none of your classes are taken online. Does anyone know if programs ever make exceptions? Is it worth applying anyway? I work full-time as a medical scribe in a cardiology office, so my work hours conflict with class hours.
  23. Hi, everyone. I’m going to attempt becoming a PA and need some advice. I have a good idea on what I’ll be doing to attempt getting into programs, so I’ll go ahead and give you my estimated credentials when applying to a program, sometime in the next 4 years. Bachelor of Science in Psychology with a minor in Health Sciences from Arizona State University. 3.6 GPA Standard GRE scores (haven’t taken any yet, but to play it safe, I’ll just say I’ve hypothetically scored average or slightly above average) Surgical Technician degree from a local technical college with ~ 2,000 hours clinical experience with ~ 500 hours of volunteer hospital-related work. Seeking to become a Surgical Physician Assistant. My main concern is that I’ll be attending ASU Online. I live in Georgia, so I’m sure the topic will be brought up and if I moved here, took online classes, etc. I’m completely content with online classes and don’t think they’ll harm my chances. I’ve inquired to PA programs near me, and they have all said they accept online programs like I’m pursuing, but that doesn’t let me know if someone would be deemed more competitive if they had similar credentials as me but in a physical campus. For my labs (required for PA program acceptance), I will actually have to fly out of state and attend those in person in an accelerated fashion specifically designed for out of state online students, so I’m still getting that physical lab presence, and it’s from a highly respected university. With all that being said, I currently have a job in aviation with a Fortune 500 company - I know, totally different world. My point is that I make really good money for my age. I’m 24 and made a little over $60,000 last year, which is very good in Georgia. So I don’t want to leave my current job to pursue school in a more traditional sense. I’m actually attending two colleges simultaneously - the local tech college for my Surgical Technician degree and ASU. I’ve just started on my ST program, which will take about 18 months. In this time, I can continue to go to ASU Online, work towards my bachelor’s, and save up as much money as possible from my job. After I complete the ST program, I’ll leave my current job to gain some clinical experience. I’ll have about 2-3 years left for me to finish my bachelors, which will give me plenty of time to rack up those required clinical hours. Sorry to rant, but I just wanted to get everything out there in a single post. Do you guys think I’m on the right track? How do you feel about me getting an online degree from ASU while simultaneously working for clinical experience? Does getting a degree part-time look less competitive than someone who’s going to college full time? How do you feel about my credentials? Answers to any questions are highly appreciated! Thanks again.
  24. I'm starting to look at PA schools and applications. I know I need a ton more hours, but I'm hoping for other advice/ideas on what could strengthen my application :) Right now I’m finishing up my degree and plan to take a year off to work as an EMT for PCE. Major: SLHS, Bachelor of Arts GPA: 3.658 Grades: Bio 1 & 2: A- Intro to Chem: A Chem 1: B Chem 2: B- Orgo 1: A- Orgo 2: A- Orgo lab: A- (it is it’s own class at my school) Psych 1: A Psych 2: A- A & P (2 semesters): B Med. Terminology: A Stat 1: A- Stat 2: B+ Micro: B+ GRE: Verbal: 156 Quantitative: 152 Writing: 4.0 HCE: 0 PCE: 164 hours as PCA; 200 as rad tech assistant Shadowing Hours: PA: 28 D.O.: 220 Volunteer Hours: 430 Healthcare Certifications: EMT, BLS, TCCC, Bleeding Control, Bleeding Control Instructor, AHA CPR Instructor LOR: PCA Manager Academic Professor Academic Professor Teaching Experience: Started monthly Bleeding Control classes at my university Assistant teach TCCC courses with local hospital Currently becoming CPR instructor, planning to teach monthly BLS/Heartsaver classes once I’m certified in March Taught grade school kids about local ecosystem through a year-long high school program
  25. Hello! I am on the edge of whether or not I should apply for PA school this cycle. I am a Junior in college, so this would be applying tpostart PA school a few months after I graduate. Cumulative GPA:3.88 Science GPA:3.91 I only have about 550 hours being a pharmacy tech, which these 2 programs count as PCE, but will be applying in May so will have about 750-800 by then. I have about 110 volunteer hours-some in hospitals and a hospice agency where I visit patients, as well as about 20 shadowing hours, which I will really try to increase by May. I started the Pre-PA club at my university, so I am President of that, as well as in honors at my University. I have a few other smaller leadership positions and some other honors for academics and service. I will be taking the GRE in a few weeks, so I don't have any stats on that yet, but I usually do well on standardized tests like that. I am definitely lacking in patient care, but I wanted an honest opinion on if the other things could outweigh that this cycle, as I don't know what to think. I would love to get in this cycle, but I am not sure if it would be a waste of my time. Thank you!
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