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  1. Hello I am Daniel, I am currently volunteering at a clinical program without pay. I talked to someone today and they told me that all schools now require people to have paid Healthcare experience. Is there any truth to this? I hear this before, but is never saw specifics about this. And my second question is, do I need calculus to become a PA or do they just need statistics? I have taken both pre-cal and stats already, I am enrolled for calculus next semester, but I was thinking about dropping it because I don't think I need it. So yeah, do most schools require calculus to become a PA. I live in California, so can you please suggest me the schools around here that require or don't require calculus. Thank you! :)
  2. As I am working as a CNA it occurred to me, could I count the hours I was the caregiver for my Grandmother towards HCE? She lived with my Aunt and I and we were her primary caregivers until she had to be moved to hospice. We aided in movement (she was wheelchair bound), toileting, bathing, also she was diabetic so we closely monitored her nutrition as well as gave insulin shots 2-3 times daily, did her blood test, and monitored her medications. (She actually had most of her pancreas removed due to pancreatic cancer). Thank you for any advice!
  3. Hi there! I am planning to reapply to PA schools for the third time now for the 2014-2015 cycle. First time I applied, I got one interview and unfortunately didn't get in. Second time I applied very late in the application cycle and didn't get any interviews. I have a B.S. in Biology from a CUNY, Science GPA of 2.98 (which sucks because many schools want 3.0 and higher), overall GPA 3.25 (after CASPA calculations). I have taken all of the pre requisites for the program. Planning to take a GRE since that increases the number of schools I can apply to. I do have an "F" on my transcript and I did retake the course and ended up with a "B-". I got an "A" in Anatomy and a "B-" in Physiology in college so I thought taking an A&P course at a local college in CA will help me boost my GPA. I got a "B" and that didn't really help. I have about 2 years of experience of working as a physical therapy aide in NY, ICU/PACU nurse duty volunteer (6 months) plus shadowing an orthopedic PA for 4 months also in NY. I have recently moved to CA and have been working as a surgical scheduler/back office assistant at a surgical practice for the past year. I volunteer at a local soup kitchen as an assistant to the cook/food server. Recently found a PA to shadow in the Bay Area. I really want to become a PA and need to figure out ways to better myself as an applicant. Please help! If you have any suggestions, I would greatly appreciate your advice!
  4. I haven't seen a page for St. Catherine University yet so I thought I'd start one! Just got an invite to interview on the 21st from 3-5. Anyone else??
  5. So this week I started working as an MA for a doctor. During my interview I kind of didn't get the best vibe from him, but I thought maybe he was just being intimidating as a part of his interview process. I know that in the future as a PA, I might not also get along with every doctor I work with, so I thought even though I might not like him a lot, it would be a good learning experience, especially since a PA is about to join the practice. The first day of working him wasn't too bad, he was somewhat reasonable when the new hires were learning office procedures, learning the EMR software, helping him out with procedures. But today he was awful. Apparently after a day (which we weren't exactly given the best new hire training) any mistake that was made, we were yelled at/criticized for in front of the patients. He would also bad mouth patients in front of other patients. He has a particular disliking/zero tolerance for Medicaid patients. The office staff is nice and tried to be as helpful as possible for the new hires, but I don't know if I could stay working at this practice. I don't want to be a quitter, but I also don't want to be miserable. Should I try to stick it out as long as possible, or should I start looking for a new job. P.S. It's not just me who thinks he is an awful doctor. He has multiple 1 star reviews on HealthGrades and Vitals.com with his average rating of 2 stars.
  6. I need advice on what to do about getting HCE for PA school. In 2014 I graduated college with a B.S in Biology. I decided my senior year that I wanted to become a PA, so after I graduated I started taking classes to get my EMT-B and got certified at the end of 2014. I started applying for jobs at the beginning of January. I've applied to over 15 jobs now including EMT-B jobs, ER tech jobs , patient care technician jobs, medical assistant jobs (also ones that don't require certification), patient care specialist jobs and scribe jobs. Unfortunately in Georgia there aren't as many EMT-B jobs, which I guess I should of researched more before choosing to get EMT certified. I've gotten a couple of rejections, but I've heard nothing from other jobs. Should I keep applying to more jobs, or does it normally take a while to hear back? The jobs I applied for are still shown as available. I just really need a job lol. Should I try to get more certifications, or try volunteering at community clinics to try to get more experience? I have a lot shadowing experience and volunteer experience at hospitals, but I really need/want to get paid direct HCE hours. Any advice would be appreciated!!!
  7. I get the impression from looking around that, as the PA profession came from those already in the healthcare field, HCE was of a high value. However, there have been many posts about the decreasing requirement for HCE and the higher applicant average for GPA. While lots of programs, and the PAEA annual report, will list the average GPA and average HCE from the accepted applicant pools, has anyone looked at the direct correlation of the two? What I mean is, what is the trade off between HCE and GPA? Is 2000 hours of high quality HCE worth two-tenths (0.2) of a GPA when it comes to interview invites? What about 5 years of high quality HCE: what would the GPA threshold be for an interview invite? This is of course assuming that the minimums are met and I'm only talking about quality hands on HCE. Volunteering as a candy striper is great experience, but I'm talking more about the RN, paramedic, military medic/ Corpsman roles. I have looked at 187 PA schools and have pared my list down to less than 20. It has amazed me how many have a low to no (500 hours or less) HCE requirement while having average cGPAs from matriculates be above 3.50.
  8. Hey everyone, I know this or very similar questions have been asked before, but many of the responses are old and I feel that I have a kind of unique situation. If you know of a post or topic that is similar, please just direct me to it. Thanks! I am currently a FT teacher, but looking to switch careers to PA. I have some HCE but it is from 2009-2011/12, and I was a scribe. I can easily shadow PAs while I continue working as a teacher (nights, days off, summer), but cannot get any hands on experience. Would those of you that have experience applying to PA school, being a student in PA school or working as a PA reccomend that I: a. try to get as much shadowing experience in different settings while continuing to teach next year, b. try to get my scribe job back as a weekend/night gig and try to shadow a few PAs in other settings (continue to teach) or c. quit my job in June and try to get a job as a medical assistant or take a CNA class, then work as a CNA in a hospital? back up plan here would be to get my scribe job back for next year I would really like to apply in this next cycle, so I am worried that I won't find any work as a CNA before the application is due (and some seem to be due by August 1!) Let me know what you think and why! Thank you so much. Feel free to DM me if you don't want to post!
  9. hey everyone. I'm struggling on making a decision with this western chicago suburbs company. Below is a revised offer letter from them; I had brough up making the CME $2000, as well as asking about paying license dues and having CME days. This would be for 4 8-6:00 days and 1:6 call (I believe). I am not sure how many times I should try to demand or request things. Salary: 88K with eligible for bonus plan. Benefits: medical/dental/group life after 30 days. 3 weeks/yr vacation with 6 sick days. Hospital dues and malpractice paid. $50/mon phone stipened adn $1500/yr CME. 401 K eligible after 90 days. Long and short term disability eligible after 90 day probation. That is pretty much it, ver batum. I noticed still no CME days, no mention of holidays or dues. Please advise! Should I run? Thanks so much!!!
  10. I'm running on little sleep. Sorry if this post is hard to understand. I get my BS this May. I plan on going on a break from school, taking the GRE, working for 2 years to get HCE, and then applying to PA school. I've already take most of the typical pre-requirement courses for PA school (bio, orgo, A&P, etc), my GPA is good, and shadowing can come later, so now I'm focused on choosing a HCE job that I can take up after I graduate in a few months. First I was going to get EMT certified until I read stories online about how that that job market was saturated in some areas. I searched online and couldn't find much in my area at all, but maybe it's because of the time of the year or I'm just not looking in the right place? Then I looked into CNA. I read everything from CNA work is good HCE, to CNA is grunt work and doesn't really count as real HCE. Honestly, I don't care which HCE as long as it's appropriate for PA school and there's at least some job demand so I can pay rent, even if it's only steady part-time work that I make up with a second non-HCE job. Any advice/insight from someone who's been there would be greatly appreciated.
  11. Hi! I thought I'd give this a shot. I'll be applying for Physician Assistant programs this year, and I'm looking to volunteer or shadow a PA in the New York City area. I have a Bachelor's and a Master's in Technology from NYU. I've worked in the Tech/Marketing/Communications field for about 10 years and have decided that the PA field is more aligned with my personal values. That's the field I can see myself in for the rest of my life. My undergrad GPA was very good, my Master's GPA was even better (a 3.8). I have an extensive background in the arts and have specialized in several forms of dance and bodywork, when I was younger. I acquired many applicable skills, having nursed physicial injuries and undergone strength conditioning. However, I am open to all types of HCE as it is still too early for me to know what specialties will suit me best. I've worked at Tech Start-Ups and Global Brands as a Senior Marketing Manager/Project Manager. I'm a responsible, accomplished, skilled professional with several references. I can also provide a character reference from a friend who is both a Professor and Psychiatrist. Please send me a private message if you would like to chat. Thanks in advance.
  12. I've been looking into interesting opportunities to gain some HCE. I feel like there may be some hidden gems that I just can't seem to come across. I see lots of opportunities to volunteer in poorer nations, but many of them are obscenely expensive, and it seems sort of gimmicky to be buying experience (i.e., it should not cost $4k to stay in an African town for a week and scrub in at a hospital). What are some reputable organizations to look into where one could not only gain some good health care experience, but have a genuinely good experience while also doing some good, and not require taking out a loan. I know that may be somewhat limited due to my training (~1yr rehab/hospital CNA), but there has to be something, here or abroad.
  13. Hey, Sorry if this is a repost but I couldn't find anything on this forum about the actual interview process for ER Tech positions. I have an interview Friday morning at a big (>30 bed) Level 1 trauma center and I am pretty nervous about my chances to get the "emergency services technician" position. I have my EMT-B and have a little (read very little) experience volunteering in another hospital ER and some experience on a squad but not a ton outside of what I did through school to get my cert (maybe 36 total hours with local FD on 911 calls). I do however have about a year of experience working in a gastroenterology office as a procedural scheduler. My questions are: A) Do I really have a shot at this job without real street experience? I've been turned down from patient care tech positions at the same hospital recently due to not having a CNA...I'm not in any way associated with a nursing program which has been indicated is preferred... B)What sort of questions can I expect as part of the interview process? Anything besides the usual "tell me about yourself", "what's your greatest weakness" sort of stuff? C)Is there anything I can do as part of the interview to make myself stand out to the ED Director? Just talk about my patient centered philosophy? Even though it will be a paycut, I really want this job as I know it will give me a ton of valuable experience. I would honestly do it for free if I could maintain the same scope of practice and have the opportunity to learn and work alongside PAs/NPs/MDs/RNs etc and see their clinical decisions and interventions. Any advice or help would be appreciated.
  14. This is my first post here and I am hoping from some help from this awesome community. I graduated in 2013 with my B.S. in biology. Overal GPA about a 3.4 and Science GPA is a 2.9. I have taken plenty of upper level biology courses such as genetics, anatomy, cell biology, and micro biology. A's and B's. However, my chemistries are almost all C's. I believe thats what brought down my science GPA. I recently got my EMT-B certification and am looking for work. Recently got turned down from 10 PA schools I applied to and, needless to say, I'm feeling a bit lost. Realistically, can PA school still work for me? I know that if I can get an interview, i can get into PA school. The hard part is qualifying by the numbers. I am looking at online courses through University of New England to retake Gen chem I and II. Working part time and depending on my paents also takes a toll on me mentally. I had a good job that was unrelated to medicine, so I quit it to pursue health care opportunities. Is this a good way to go? Did anybody follow the same journey? Thank you, I really appreciate the help.
  15. Just sent my application and wanted to know what everyone is using to study for entrance exam? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  16. I've worked as a dental assistant for quite a while now, for about 3-5 years. I've worked with pediatrics, oral surgeon, general, some orthodontics, etc. Can that go towards my HCE hours? I feel like I've wasted my time in dental assistant but hopefully, find it useful for my admission. The reason I am asking this is because I have no HCE hours besides dental assistant, and if I were to become a CNA, I would have to take a year of CNA classes at my community college to receive my certificate. Help please :'/
  17. Hi everyone - I'm new to the forum, so I apologize if this topic has already been covered. I filtered through the search and didn't find what I was looking for, so hopefully I can get some advice here :) I am deciding what the best route for healthcare experience is. At this time, I am choosing between EKG Technician and Phlebotomist. Does anyone have any input one way or the other? Any pros/cons/suggestions are appreciated!!
  18. Hello everyone, I'm very new to the forum, but I have enjoyed reading through a lot of responses in the pre-PA subgroup; it's answered a lot of questions for me but has also brought to light more questions that I did not know I had. I hope this is the right place to be posting this type of thing (if not, sorry!) I guess my main question is that regarding HCE. I have close to 1000 hours of experience working in a psych hospital as a mental health associate, and will have at least 280 hours of volunteering at two different hospitals (think central transport, patient access, and some departmental work). I'm well-aware I'm going to need much more HCE before applying, and after doing a bit of research I'm considering getting my EMT-B license. My first question goes out to EMTs... I am currently living in the Boston area and I was wondering what the job outlook/placement was like for this. I've heard it can be quite difficult to find positions on an ambulance, but I was really hoping to utilize this to become an ER tech. Is this feasible? Any ER techs out there who can provide their past experience and what I would need to do this? And is an ER tech even a good form of HCE for applying to PA school? I originally wanted to apply for 2015, but I just don't feel my experience is adequate enough yet. I really want to start getting more patient interaction soon this upcoming spring, and going through EMT-B certification (the soonest I can) wouldn't get me my license until at least June. I know this is unlikely, but are there any fast track ways of becoming an ER tech or getting more patient interaction without 6 months of training? (I'm assuming RN or CNA training would be similar) I would appreciate any and all feedback you guys have. Thanks!
  19. This is just a quick shout out to all of those pre pa students with "unconventional" health care experience. There is a feel among the pre pa community that being a paramedic or a nurse is the way to be the perfect applicant. I know that not everyone thinks this, but I hear it enough to where I want to give some hope to those who may have some experience that is a little different. I am a COA (Certified Ophthalmic Assistant) this is a valid form of HCE(Health Care Experience) for pre pas. COAs: Collect histories of present illness. Have knowledge about the effects of common systems diseases i.e. Diabetes, Hypertension, Hyperthyroidism,Ischemia. (For more eye specific review of ocular diseases see my post here.) Instill medications in the form of dilation drops and anesthetic drops Assist optometrists and ophthalmologist in clinical procedures Volunteer abroad such as my trip to Mexico Scribe for ophthalmologist and optometrists Code using IDC 9/CAPT This is just one example of what some may say is not real health care experience. I heard of pas who were ultra sound techs, physical therapy aids, lab assistants, and some even had no health care experience (not recommended). Don't get me wrong I think that Paramedics, EMTs(I am one of these to), and Nurses rock. I just think that it is important to get out of the idea that you have to be a "cookie-cutter" applicant to get accepted. Do what interests you and be great at it!
  20. Hi everyone, I'm about to finish up my CNA course and will hopefully become certified within a week. What I'm confused about is whether working as a "caregiver" rather than CNA would be a risky move - I've heard some places don't accept it as HCE. It would be much easier to find a caregiver job in group homes and such, which is why I ask. At this point I'm really worried about finding a job to have enough hours to apply next year (will be working full time though). The job functions are generally the same - helping out with ADLs, rehabilitation, taking vitals, attending call lights. The only difference I can find is the title, and that you are serving "residents" rather than "patients". I've actually found that companies are advertising the job with both names ("CNA/caregiver"). Many also require that you at least finish a nurse aide course. Any other advice on finding work as a CNA is appreciated. It seems like many hospitals want 6 months experience which is disheartening. I might help out as a volunteer at a free clinic for now. Thanks in advance!
  21. Hi guys! I've been a hospice volunteer for a little over a year now and am wondering if those hours count as direct patient care in CASPA. I am touching and holding and doing basic care for the people, much like I did in my CNA work. Does this count as direct patient care or does it go under volunteering hours, or both? Please help! Mricca1
  22. I have not had any luck finding experience as a certified nursing assistant, or a clinical research assistant. I recently got an interview for a resident assistant. If I get the position, should I take it to fulfill heatlh care experience?
  23. See here: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25091873 It is sad and disturbing that ER providers still haven't caught on that people die everyday from opioid overdoses. Contributing to the addiction is bad medicine. So, what is the problem with telling them no? Are we afraid of receiving bad patient satisfaction scores? Are we shy and don't like the confrontational aspect of telling a patient that they can't have hydromorphone or hydrocodone despite seeing that they were here for the same thing three months in a row? I know most on this forum that work in EM are sensible and aren't part of the problem. BUT how do we help fix it? Have you ever had to have a discussion with other providers that you work with regarding their overuse of opioids in patients that don't need them? I don't want people to risk their friendship and professional relationship with other providers, but I think something needs to be said. In EM I see providers that act all "tough" and talk about how pain management providers are nothing but a "pill mill" and then they go right along doing the same thing in the EM setting. Opioids have their uses in the ER, but seeing it trend UP for headaches is not a good thing IMO.
  24. Hey all! As of now I have about 500 hours of HCE which I know counts towards the hours required for admission to PA school. I'll be starting a Master's program at Wake Forest University in a couple of weeks, and part of this involves interning at what WFU calls the HELPS program, which I've linked to below. http://hes.wfu.edu/helps.htm I'm worried that PA schools may shrug this experience off by comparing it to working as a personal trainer, or something similar. However, I know that my responsibilities will be much more clinically oriented. For example, I know that administering EKGs will be part of my regular responsibilities. What do you all think? I'll further investigate this by speaking to the PA schools' admission departments, but I thought asking you all would be a good start. Thank you!
  25. Hey y'all, So I wanted to get some advice on a possible future career as a PA. I've been very interested in the profession for the past few months even though I've only been reading about it online. I feel like I might still need to shadow a PA in order to really make sure but for now I do see myself doing it. I'm an MLT working at a hospital for the last two and a half years. I'm finishing up my Bachelor's in Biology this fall and plan to take both A&P 1 and 2 at my nearby community college in the spring. I will also be getting certified as an MT after graduation. Yay! The school that I'm interested in at the moment is Shenandoah University. I know that I'm good with all the requirements except for, of course, HCE. Their website actually lists HCE as "not required, but highly suggested and considered" by their admissions committee. I want to know how I can pair up my MLT experience with something else that involves patient contact . I've considered doing phlebotomy here at the hospital but I don't think it's sufficient according to some forum topics I've read. Also, my hospital offers training to be an interpreter (I'm bilingual in Spanish) so that might get me to at least see patients? I make good but not that great money as an MLT and going back to school for EMT, CNA, or RN to work for less and spend more money on tuition would be my last option. Potentially, I would like to apply in a year. I want to know if it's worth to apply that soon by using phlebotomy as my patient contact hours and doing some shadowing or really just wait longer and do EMT, LPN, or CNA. Also, it's possible for me to work part-time, so doing volunteering or finding work as an MA could work too? But then again, I would be making less. I know that I have mentioned a lot but your advice and/or comments would be greatly appreciated :) -Paulina
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