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  1. I don't know the answer, but I would guess that if an opinion has to be rendered by an advisory board, it would mean that the prior act has to be judged by the nature of the offense or the circumstances that led up to the decertification. I guess the prior profession might matter. Losing license to be a home inspector or architect shouldn't matter. Also, the length of time between that decertification & today might be relevant. I know lawyers can be admitted to practice law that are ex felons but may be denied admittance if the offense involved an act of dishonesty or fraud. Good luck.
  2. Are you talking about the 5-year PA program or graduate program. I was accepted to Kings' 5 year PA program for fall 2013.
  3. Biostatistician; Surgical Technologist; Cytotechnologist; Health Care or Hospital Administation; Teacher; Counselor; Clergy; nutritionist; medical malpractice lawyer. (I'm 17 & am going to 5 year BS/MS PA school in fall & Like patient contact). Good luck!
  4. Here's a thought. A lot of these posts have been touting massive HCE before PA school. Of course that is great. But, in this society all professionals start from college. MD, OD, engineer, lawyer, etc. You start in college, then go directly to grad school/med/law. While in the masters/med school/law school you get a lot of "life experience". But, even though it's probably jammed-packed it's not the same as being a practicing professional. After graduating you go out into the real world where your education continues on the job. You don't need to go to college then work in an allied field and then apply to any professional school, etc. I agree that there is tremendous merit in getting allied experience before PA school. But, I am doing the 5 year route. I think more and more will go this route, too. I think it will be typical just like all other professions. And, there will probably be more requirements, more months, longer rotations, and residencies. The profession will evolve. We high schoolers that you are so oh "sigh" bothered with will do just fine, thank-you veer much. Maybe out of the gate the returning student has more life experience, maybe we'll be able to more quickly grasp changing technology or have more energy, or devote 100% because we don't have family to support or gasp teenagers to deal with or paying rent, etc. Will bring fresh ideas. For example, some of us read other posts about a name change from assistant to associate. We have other ideas. Just remember, 5 years from now we'll all be PA and we ALL will be continuing to learn on the job and our unique qualities and perspectives will continue to grow.
  5. Soon this discussion will be even more divisive. Let's see. First, we say the 5 year programs are "mills" like a previous poster claimed. Then we can say that if you get into PA scoop with less than a 4.0 that the schools are taking dummies. Then we can say that if you don't graduate from a school ranked 1, 2, or 3 in the nation, that "my degree is better than you degree". Then the PA I shadowed had 20 years experience but yours only had 10 years, and therefore, I received twice the amount of knowledge. Then I had 20 years of HCE and you only had 5 years before going to PA school, so I am superior to you and I'm a better PA. On and on. I'm not discouraged. I'm excited & proud of getting into a couple of 5 year BS/MS programs. I'm proud of my CNA, GNA, & surge tech. I know it's basic. I know it doesn't equal all of the HCE some people have. But, I also know that it is a good start & I have faith in the Schools!
  6. Thanks for the info. I'll go with the 5 year program.
  7. That is why all the PA programs I looked into made it clear that for the first 3 years of college, you have to maintain a high GPA before you start the Professional phase just like everyone else getting into the 2 year Post-Bac program. We just had the foresight and the gumption to apply now instead of after graduating from college. Every person comes to their own path in life. Maybe some, like me, know what I want at age 17. Maybe I will find a different path, and maybe you will, too. Maybe some flounder through college and then think of the PA field. Maybe some couldn't make it into medical school so they think being a PA is the next best thing. Maybe some are kicking themselves wishing they had even heard of the PA profession and pursued the BS/MS route straight from high school. Maybe some are anxious because they have to flit over the whole country interviewing for a spot and feel that they are now somehow entitled to be a PA more than someone who had the foresight to do it early in their career. And, don't forget that during the first 3 years of college, every school requires "hands-on" HCE. I just happen to have some of it already done. I wish you well as a PA and hope you feel that when the rest of us get our degrees in 5 years that we may actually be just, if not more, prepared then someone who got a 4 year college degree and then went back to get the PA!
  8. Well, what about Pre-Med? Do you have a problem with that? What is the difference? What about kids going into a pharmacy program...gee they dispense meds that could harm? My point is that I have the foresight to get into a 5 year BS/MS program. Just because some kids went to school and majored in whatever and then a lightbulb went off & they said "gee, I want to be a PA because I have been working as an EMT or whatever" doesn't mean I don't have the same right, now. I am 17. Duh, I know you have it mrs together. But, I have a 4.0 and that's all of junior & senior high school, I take a lot of AP, I am an aide in Spanish classes, want to minor in Spanish for Medicine which is offered at a lot of the PA schools, have my CNA, GNA, competing in SkillsUSA for medical terminology, & am doing Surg. Tech this semester. Last I checked, no one in the ER says "Excuse me, did you graduate from Harvard medical school right after you graduated from college with a degree in basket weaving or did you first spend a few years as an EMT, R.N. Before going to med school?". I cannot wait to my 4th & 5th year to take classes with a bunch of jealous students who begrudge me my spot in PA & a degree at age 22 v. 42!
  9. Why do some people say that about wanting PA major high school? Not a peep about the tons of my classmates who are majoring in nursing!
  10. I'm ok with rankings, but sometimes they're just incorrect. Case in point, I noticed St. Francis U had been historically ranked top tier at 20 or 21. Now unranked. Having been accepted there I thought Yikes. Turns out the school or USNWR dropped ball and St. F was missed. So, I guess it's possible that the rankings are off by one going from #20 down if rankings don't change drastically from year to year
  11. To nnfoster: I hope your kid gets on this forum. I'm a senior, too. I have my CNA & this semester I'm getting surgical tech experience & am competing in Skills-USA for medical terminology. So, some of the posts think we high schoolers don't have any HCE - well, I do! I got accepted to St Francis, King's & St. Johns all within 3 weeks of applying. I think the HCE made the difference!
  12. I was accepted in early Nov for the 5 year BS/MS program. I was accepted at a few other schools, too! Just weighing my options. St. F offered $12,000 academic merit which is less than other offers, but I'm leaning towards St. F. Anyone else accepted as freshman for fall 2013? If I go, they encouraged me to do the Spanish for Medicine minor with the PA program.
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