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  1. A preceptor I have been longing to learn from is now only taking students who are bilingual (Spanish/English) [The rotation is in the Central Valley of CA, so it's not uncommon to expect this]. Do you have any recommendations on how to learn Medical Spanish quickly and sufficiently? Online resources? Apps? Books? I know this is something I need to do anyway if I plan on staying in CA (or the West Coast for that matter). How did you learn Spanish if it was not your first language (outside of an academic setting, preferably)?
  2. What do you think about purchasing the 12-month membership for the HIPPO PANCE review course online to do and review during clinical year? Do you think it will help me during rotations at all? My program may do its own version of a review course once we get near the exam date (9/2015), however, after doing the trial membership on HIPPO, I loved the way they present the info and am interested in using it as a supplement during the end of my didactic and during clinical year.Did the course help anyone with their exams during the clinical year? http://www.hippopa.com/
  3. For the new Cohort and those "on the fence" about acceptance: we just found out about a phenomenal PA who just received an offer to become faculty starting for the new cohort. This is also in addition to another Physician who will hopefully be accepting a faculty position for the new class. What this means for YOU is that: there shouldn't be any more scrambling for lectures or lack of lectures which means less "self teaching". Also, this should help alleviate much of the disorganization our class and the c/o 2014 has experienced! Great news for you guys!
  4. While I understand both of these arguments, I think you would both be doing yourselves a huge favor by asking current PA's what it was like at their program. I can guarantee you that they also struggled with a lot of "self-teaching" and having to sit with the material on their own (I surveyed many current PA's through this site and got an overwhelming "YES" to the self-studying at their individual programs). UCD has its deficits, certainly: lack of faculty is a huge problem right now since having moved to a Master's degree. If "self-teaching" is a problem and you have other options, then go somewhere else. But DO NOT expect that it's going to be a cake walk elsewhere. You are literally combining years 2-4 of medical school into 27 months. How can anyone possibly think you can get a lecture on every single topic in medicine in that amount of time? It's not something that can be achieved. Thus, you are expected to go home and abide by the objectives and expectations of not only your faculty, but the ARC-PA as well. That's something that you are accepting when you hit "submit" on your CASPA application. And, looking at the "bigger picture"--if you still think you can learn all that there is to know about medicine in 27 months, you'll be in for a real treat come time to find a job (or take the PANCE for that matter). The rest of your life will be dedicated to "on the job training" or "at home studying" even while you're working so that you can be the best practitioner you can be. Your collaborating physician isn't going to spoon feed you everything you need to know, why should we expect our faculty to do that--that goes for any program. While I certainly have had my ups and downs with UCD, I got what I expected and have not been disappointed yet. I am confident in my abilities to be a great practitioner without the hand holding of my professors or physicians. Which means, I am 100% okay with "self-teaching"--I get to collaborate with my classmates and learn things like the way they do in the real world. So I'm paying 31K/yr to watch youtube videos and read out of my text books. But guess what---I get to be a PA. And that's really all I care about.
  5. Can RCC grant a Master's Degree? I've often wondered that. If they can--then yep, guess they are an additional public school in CA. But, come 2015, if they can't grant the masters degree....see ya RCC.
  6. UC Davis is making a HUGE mistake with this increase in tuition. Being the only public school in CA plus their "attainability" with regard to cost, they had such an advantage over all of the other CA programs (and probably could have gained intensive national recognition because of it--thus, highly qualified students from ALL OVER!). Whatever. YOU ARE GOING TO BE A PA. DAMN IT. Do whatever it takes! I still pinch myself every day since we started. It's surreal people, but your dreams are coming true! I'd pay a million dollars (well, daddy government would pay and then I would use every fiber of my being to do loan repayment options...ha!) to become a PA if that's what it takes! Congratulations to everyone who has received your acceptance letters! To those waitlisted: our cohort has waitlisted applicants and it would appear that many people are choosing other programs, so wait for those acceptance letters to come in. Those who were not accepted, take it as constructive criticism that you're not ready yet, get some more clinical hours, become fluent in spanish and maybe take a sciency course to increase that GPA, apply on JUNE 1. No later than that! Good luck!
  7. This is blowing my mind. How can that be possible when our tuition is $31K/yr?????? I am seriously thinking this is a mistake....Ask. Look into this. Find out.
  8. Just to echo SacPrePA's advice; things I wish I had studied more seriously before starting the program: 1. Renal anatomy and physiology (especially RAAS) 2. Menstrual/Ovarian Cycle 3. Neuro: SNS, PNS 4. Gastric physiology 5. Endocrinology (thyroid, adrenal, pituitary, hypothalamus, etc + all of their hormones/actions) but mostly renal phys. I hate kidneys (kidnies? haha)
  9. For those of you who are nervous about admissions: While my class learned of our admission in late January, we had no idea when we would actually be starting. My lease in Fresno ended before I could find a place here, did a bit of couch hopping and finally got the date on when we would start (6/24). Took off to Hawaii with the bf spur of the moment, came back, found the very first apartment we looked at, put a down payment down and started 5 days later. It happens quick. Prepare yourself for that. But more importantly, the entire program goes by quickly. So when I say prepare yourselves, I'm definitely not kidding. Think of this "not knowing" phase as a taste of what the next two years will be. And I say that with endearment because I absolutely love this program, where I am in it, and what I've learned thus far. For those who are getting nervous about housing: my classmates and I are dispersed all over Sacramento and Davis. If you're not into a 30+ minute commute, hang out around Downtown/Midtown. There are some places right next to campus but it's also a slightly bit more expensive. If you can offset the cost of gas/parking then it might be worth it. If you don't care much about driving in traffic, West Sacramento and East Sacramento are not only safe but relatively inexpensive compared to the heart of Sac. Davis is a whole different beast in terms of commuting, but my classmates that live there love it and don't mind the commute so much. Lastly, once you get in--go do something fun. Like I said, my bf and I took a spontaneous trip to Hawaii together for a week and it was so worth it because now we don't get as much time together without my textbooks--knowing that we took advantage of what little time we had as the best decision we made for our relationship before starting this program. Feel free to PM me if you have any specific questions. Good luck!
  10. I agree with the above: RELAX!!!! But, if you're like most of us with that Type A personality, you'll get bored with that well-deserved R&R and want to balance it out with something productive. Here are a couple topics I wish I had mastered before I started my program: Renal physiology Digestive physiology The menstrual cycle CNS/ANS Congratulations!!!
  11. I'm interested to know how other PA programs are getting their Master's Degree courses in? We were a last minute thought and shoved in with the School of Nursing to earn our Master's of Science in Health Services (not MSPAS), where we have to listen to various MS/PhD Rn's and physicians talk to us about nursing (most of the time, we had a great speaker come in and talk about the ACA--which most of us appreciated). However, we are required to write a thesis and attend these classes (our most recent one was "Health Status and Care Systems" with the RN students). Do other PA programs have similar requirements for their master's degree?? (The MS courses have no effect on our medical curriculum--essentially they are just in addition to everything else we were already doing). I'm also happy with whatever MS degree I get--as I know it won't affect my ability to practice medicine. I am just curious how other programs added the master's component to the already strenuous medical curriculum.
  12. Thank you for your reply, Paula. I think you have a very logical approach to this. Unfortunately, I don't see this concept evolving any time soon, but, nevertheless, I'd like to think my program is "trying"... PA's are NOT given the opportunity to get their NP.
  13. rpackelly--the communications department came to our class to tell us they were doing this--they want financial support from the alumns since there is literally ZERO scholarship assistance exclusive to the PA students (all the SON students get some kind of funding--if you're an RN...). Now, I made it VERY clear how I felt in the fact that PA's are getting left behind quite often in terms of acknowledgement in this program (many of my PA classmates have also voiced their opinion on this). We are shoved in with the MS nursing students and PhD nursing students and it really feels like that--"shoved in". Like we are a last thought. Honestly, I am livid that they reached out to the alumn in this way and again continued to not acknowledge the PA profession. I have offered my services to the communication department so they can have a "PA voice" in their advertising. Neither I nor my classmates were given the opportunity to offer our thoughts on the alumni brochure or magnets. I am very sorry. It's unfortunate, but you now have a taste of what the students are going through here. The stepchild of the SOM and the SON....
  14. I'm a student in a program that teaches both NP's and PA's together in the same classroom. Essentially, the NP's in my program are being taught the medical model--which I personally think is great. It's been an incredible experience so far getting to learn from the RN's in my class. They are all brilliant and contribute so much to the complexity and critical thinking involved in our case studies and class discussion. We take the exact same courses; the only difference is that they can choose to achieve their NP cert or both their NP and PA certs by either completing the extra quarter of clinical hours or not; just about all of our lecturers are specialists (MD/DO) with the rare occasion of having an NP, PA, or both NP/PA (alumni). However, with all of the support NP's get to achieve autonomy--SB491, for example (in CA), I feel as though my program defies the purpose of this attempt to separate NP's from PA's. I have also researched jobs for the heck of it to find that NP's are in significant demand--especially in Northern Ca (which, of course, I attribute to the huge support RN's have in CA). However, the fact that my program even exists should say something about the validity of PA's compared to NP's--RIGHT? I also fear that physicians who are looking for a PA will find that I went to this program and realize that perhaps I was taught the nursing model, since I shared classes with NP's. I would like to gain support from my faculty (who lobbied for SB491......in the classroom....) to really advertise our program and to gain better recognition for PA's--even if it is hopping on an NP's back and using them as a stepping stool to gain that recognition. I doubt that many of the students in my class (and faculty) acknowledge the disparities between NP's and PA's in California. All in all, I'd like to get your opinion on this matter. What would you think if down the road more and more programs started training PA's along side NP's (or vice versa)? Do you think that the existence of my program could pioneer the idea that NP's and PA's are equal in terms of knowledge, capabilities, skills and education?
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