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  1. Joe1968- That's great! Will you be attending any of the workshops Thursday? I got in to 3 but couldn't snag a spot in the procedures one. (I'm hoping they may allow me to observe at least.) How have you found your transition to be?
  2. http://www.entpa.org/ent_for_the_pac Anybody planning to go to the conference this year? I'm a new ENT hire and my department is sending me before I begin. Would love to meet up!
  3. The amount of purely anecdotal evidence being used to back MEDICAL claims here is troubling. Hopefully we can be critical thinkers and self-aware enough to realize our own biases and susceptibility to faulty thinking before making bold claims.
  4. I just did the wise thing and referred to the AAPA 2015 Salary Report and found the following: Family med w/ 0-1 years experience 10th percentile = $72k base + $400 bonus 50th percentile = $80.5 base + $4k bonus 90th percentile = $95,680 base + $11k bonus
  5. I understand I should never count on productivity when budgeting. Does productivity only count after seeing x number of patients? Or does it count per patient, regardless? Should new grads expect this number to be 0 for the first year?
  6. I've just received an offer from an independent clinic that includes a base salary + productivity bonus. When asking about what that bonus may add, HR said one experienced PA has pulled in $40k more. I asked for how this number is calculated and was told, "RVU calculations are taken from the standard CMS format." Despite looking online for examples, I'm not sure what this means practically. I am a new grad, so I understand my focus will be on learning and not productivity for at least the first 6-12 months. But, being reasonable for my first year, should I expect this to bring in an extra $500? $5k? $15k? I have no idea how much this may influence my salary and would love any guidance or perspective you all may have.
  7. I suggest contacting Jennifer Hohman, who is a professional career coach only working with PAs. Jennifer is a frequent author in PA Professional by AAPA and offers discounts to AAPA members and new grads. (Her rates are more than reasonable anyway.) She offers two main services- Resume/CV/Cover letter editing/feedback and contract negotiation assistance. She has been both a trusted advisor and shoulder to lean on during the ups and downs of my first PA career search. Jennifer is professional, experienced, and friendly. I cannot recommend her highly enough. http://www.pacareercoach.net/about.html
  8. AliB and greenmood - You two make some good points. Previous HCE is important and, unfortunately, mine was very limited. I'm a former low-income high school Spanish teacher with a lot of community involvement. I also have a couple phenomenal letters of recommendation from clinical preceptors. I'm hoping my minimal previous healthcare experience doesn't stop all employers from seeing the big picture of what I have to offer. Thank you again for your feedback. I will keep my chin up and keep applying.
  9. A big thank you to everyone for responding to this thread. From this, I've learned: MOST jobs will reject me for being a new grad. (Although I wish they wouldn't list, "Will consider new grads." Finding a job with the trifecta of location, specialty, and salary is rare. Consider other options- residencies, surgical subspecialty groups, and PA organizations. Get licensed asap. (I already have the forms filled out. I just need to take the PANCE... and graduate.) No matter how desperate I feel, never settle for something I know will make me unhappy. I appreciate all the guidance. :)
  10. Boatswain2PA - You're right. I shouldn't compare myself to others. I was just curious if it's a common experience finding a position that has patience for a new grad. Two of my friends just received very desirable offers from places that were exclusively seeking new PAs. I'm wondering if this is common. Also, I feel I miscommunicated my specialty preferences. I'm not looking for a specific surgical subspecialty. I'm seeking family practice or any sort of surgery whatsoever. I would also like to stay in the same city as my home and family. Soulfari - That's a good point. I had great experiences at my sites, but none of them are hiring right now or know anyone who is. I really thought my rotations would offer this opportunity. I've made some good networks and fantastic feedback, but no open spots.
  11. I am a student graduating in December and have begun the job search process. Many positions are available, but I'm finding they're either very rural, temp positions, float positions, or in a subspecialty that would be a poor fit for me after school. I am really interested in family practice or a surgical subspecialty. Today I applied for a job (my first time) that said they would consider new grads, but immediately received an email that I did not have enough experience. This is disheartening and I'm beginning to wonder if perhaps my expectations are too high. Granted, I have just begun the search and have plenty of time. I'm just curious about perspectives from everyone here. Please share as much as you feel comfortable, or PM me if you do not want this public. A few questions: How long did you search before finding positions you were interested in as a new grad? How many times had you been dismissed due to being new? Did you have to broaden your search and apply to positions that weren't necessarily ideal? Were you satisfied with your first position? If you could have a do-over from graduation, what would you have done differently. Thank you in advance. I will keep my chin up and keep applying.
  12. I think this is great advice. It has to be in the ballpark of the offer to begin with. I wonder an "appropriate" range would be considered - like within 10% of the offer?
  13. I definitely agree with the advice of seeking a first job that will give me a broad range of experience as a PA. In fact, that is why I was curious about this issue in the first place. I have a high interest in both surgery and family practice. My friend had me convinced that taking a family practice job would ensure my future income never climbed to the level as my peers, even if we were in the same specialty. I know not to expect "top dollar" because I am a new grad. I am humble enough to recognize the value of a seasoned provider over my mostly-theoretical knowledge. That said, several of my classmates have already applied for and accepted positions. A few of them will be starting >$100k. The state I'm in pays PAs very well, so I know this is probably not the norm nationwide. During my ortho unit, a new PA said, "Never accept less than 6-figures if you're a new grad in ortho surgery." While income isn't everything, it does play a role in my decision, as I'm sure it does for most PAs. My main deciding factors are: 1. Will I be a good fit for the team? 2. Will this be a good learning opportunity with supportive staff? 3. Income/benefits/retirement/vacation/etc. I was just wondering how much incomes varied between jobs, for those of you who have switched several times. (No need to share numbers, just discussion.) My friend says his current employer told him during the hiring process he had received his previous income information from his previous employer. I thought that was unethical or illegal, but he seems to think it is common practice. Perhaps this varies state-by-state? Or perhaps this varies amongst professions? I'm open to thoughts and feedback.
  14. I am a new grad (soon, at least) gearing up to apply for my first job. I'm open to working in a variety of settings, but I've received some worrisome advice from a friend: "Make sure you don't accept a job with a lower pay, not because you desperately need the extra income, but because you set the bar for income level at all future jobs." How true is this advice with regards to the PA profession? I was told that prospective employers frequently call previous employers to find out their salary. And because of this, employers tend to "low ball" these applicants and view them as less deserving of a higher salary than others with previously higher incomes. While I can see how this could be true for other professions with more flexible requirements and employment history, I'm wondering if this applies to PAs. I'm wondering especially with providers who switch from clinic to surgery or vice versa. This seems more apples to oranges than clinic to clinic or surgery to surgery, where the comparison might be clearer. I'm curious what everyone thinks.
  15. Hi Everyone! I'm a few months away from my PANCE and have heard great (and not so great) things about both Hippo and CME4Life. I would love any feedback from anybody who has experience (or a coupon code ;) ) with either.
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