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Everything posted by greenmood

  1. You should get a bachelors degree in something you find USEFUL and interesting. What happens if you don’t get into PA school and have to rely on your BA or BS for a while to live your life? Don’t put your future self in that position. If a graphic design degree is going to keep you busy, productive, and give you a job to feed yourself/family, go for it. Just make sure you take the right classes so PA school is a realistic option.
  2. This info is interesting, but IMO useless without location details. I have this sense that location, even moreso than specialty, impacts pay.
  3. Many people have difficulty finding shadowing opportunities during regular business hours; this may be exponentially harder, especially since it sounds like you don't have any leads on a person to shadow. I would start looking at hospitals or urgent cares. You need to find a place open on the weekend or at night, first. Then you can start cold calling PAs. I worked at a hospital with PAs while I was applying to schools. I took a day off work, put on a suit instead of scrubs, and went to the hospital as a shadow instead of an employee. If there is a PA in your office you should consider doing the same. Gotta use the connections you have.
  4. Yes. You have one foot in the grave at 27. Focus on the time you have left with your family. Good luck.
  5. I’m really not trying to rain on your parade. But. Have you fully explored what you would do as a PTA? Many many PTAs are required to do as much (if not more) manual physical labor as CNAs. Unless you’re going to be in something like sports medicine where the patients are generally able-bodied, there is a LOT of lifting involved in PTA work. A gait belt and an aide are great if you have both, but not guaranteed. And Maynard. PTAs work with providers every day. That’s like saying CNAs only work with nurses.
  6. When you go on interview days, discreetly seek out the first and second year students with families. It's a red flag if you can't find any. I say do this discreetly because the last thing you want to do on an interview day is suggest (accidentally, of course) that you don't have a plan or that you don't have support at home. That's a red flag for THEM.
  7. It's great experience. I was a physical therapy aide (not a PTA). PA school would be pretty boring in a class with 50 CNAs. IMO. I'd do a cost-benefit analysis though (if you haven't already). Meaning, the cost of doing pre-reqs is both in money spent and in money not earned. For that to lead to a job in a field that is itself still a pre-requisite for yet another program (PA) seems like a very long, drawn out process to me. It would be one thing if you were already a PTA making a career change, but you're not. Why not just get your pre-requisites done for PA school and take a job now that doesn't require advanced schooling?
  8. We train minimum 12 weeks, sometimes longer if the hire needs extra time, and there is always another PA available (or a resident on the weekends). I would find out what the average census is and like everyone else said, talk to the other PAs. Also ask what the hours are during training. You will have a harder time if you’re working 12s during orientation. Would be better to start off with 8s or 10s to physically be there more frequently and get more exposure. I don’t think a month of training is enough for a new grad, but my patient population is complex and very sick. If that’s not the case with your service, a month might be ok.
  9. Who is doing it now, and why can't they train you?
  10. As far as I know, federal student loans like the kind you are talking about are granted on the basis of financial need. Credit scores don't have anything to do with it.
  11. Good. I say this with encouragement and positivity: grow a thicker skin. Earn the respect of your patients. You're in charge of your own learning as a professional. It'll be great.
  12. Hmm. You sound really smart. HCE might help with gaining and then expressing humility and compassion. You don't have any experience touching another human being, as far as I can tell. There are lots of ways to "help people" aside from PA. I think a job where you fulfill the physical needs of another person is valuable experience and can teach you a lot about yourself. It's very difficult to teach bedside manner. You can bet all those CNAs and PT aides who will work alongside you in the future will pick up on the dismissive "wiping asses" attitude. Anyway, I think you need some real hours shadowing PAs in a variety of specialties.
  13. There shouldn't be a difference in pay. Training a new employee is part of the business. I haven't ever been in this position but my gut says I would not accept a "training" rate. I had three months of orientation when I started four years ago, and I was paid as an employee because I WAS an employee.
  14. You should definitely counter. Like Abe said, they'll either say no or come up a little bit. Most of the HR people you speak with are likely trained to make it SEEM like they won't negotiate. That might be true... or it might not! You won't know unless you try.
  15. Most big systems provide a percentage cost of living increase every year and not much more of a raise than that unless you take on significantly more responsibilities. Your best bet is to sell yourself as worth more at the time of hire. Some places will bite, others won't, and then you'll get to decide what's most important for your first job.
  16. I use uptodate at the computer and when I need real depth to information, but Medscape on my phone works great for confirming a dose or checking side effects.
  17. I work a mix of days and nights. I tend to sleep immediately following a night shift until around noon (latest 2pm) and then get up and go about my day. If I'm working again that night I treat my noonish wakeup as the morning, have breakfast and coffee, do normal things. If I'm on my last night before being off I will avoid caffeine after I wake up and attempt to go to bed before midnight. That way the next day I can usually function and it limits my transitional time to a single afternoon/evening. The problem is when I try to squeeze normal day person things into that AM sleep time. I had to do this after my last string of nights and I felt very unwell. Had some mild visual hallucinations, gaps in memory, even some speech disturbances. So I really try not to do that.
  18. That's ridiculous, IMO. So you quit your job, even on good terms with your employer, and aren't able to work near your town for 2 years? Whether it means PA or specialty PA, it's BS. I don't have a lawyer recommendation. Just my outrage.
  19. I'm probably going to do it. I figure even if I fail, all that testing and thinking will make me better prepared for the PANRE anyway, and I'll have a year to pass it.
  20. No, that's pretty standard. It takes several months in most states to be credentialed. In my state the board only meets quarterly; I missed the cut off and worked on a temp license for a month before my regular one came through in September that year. Don't accept a "training period" without pay. You should receive on the job training after you are hired. Plan on 3-4 months between graduating and getting paid. Some people manage to do it sooner. IIRC I could have started earlier with that temp license but I needed time to find housing and relocate.
  21. Next time we are hiring, you apply and you can hear the question. ?
  22. I started applying for jobs about 5 months prior to my graduation. You don't need your PANCE scores to apply - they will hire you contingent on licensure. I was hired in May, graduated in June, and started working in August.
  23. I was given a medical scenario involving the triage of three patients, based solely on information gathered from a nurse over the phone. The goal was not to test specific knowledge but rather to evaluate medical decision making and ability to think quickly. Stressful. But now I'm on the other side of it. We still ask interviewees this question and it tells us a TON about how much work we would have to do to get them ready to work a shift by themselves with a very ill patient population.
  24. I think the second and third options in your poll are the same, and the "correct" answer. I completed my post-bacc courses partly on a campus with a formal post-bacc program (but not as part of that program) and partly at a community college. Just do well and no one will care.
  25. If I remember correctly, it depends on if you catch the right moment in the cycle of the medical board. So I graduated in May 2013 and my start date was in August. The board didn't meet again until September, so I worked under a temporary license until I was approved the next month. I believe they meet every other month.
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