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  1. Assuming you had the pre-requisites for both and already had an RN license, would you pursue an NP program or a PA program and why?
  2. Grades are very important. I recommend planning out a strategy that allows you to take maybe two hard classes and two easier (general education) classes per semester, so you don't overwhelm yourself and end up with a bunch of C's which will hurt your application. Also, like faking patience said, you don't want your pre-requisites to end up being more than five years old before your PA application is competitive.
  3. If you can find another job I would bail out. If you stay for six months and then decide to leave you will either have to ask for a reference from that job or you will have a six month gap in employment that you may have to explain. If you leave know it will be like the job never happened.
  4. 1) PA programs will want shadowing hours no matter how closely you say you worked with a PA or MD. 2) Most (all?) PA programs are full-time and very difficult. You will not be able to work much while in PA school. 3) Many programs require the GRE test. I did well on the GRE by studying a book, but you could sign up for a GRE study class if you have the time and money. Good luck!
  5. Hmmm....they must have counted your clinical research hours as HCE for you to have gotten interviews, I guess. Perhaps they count it, but would prefer that you also have some hands-on experience as well to round out your application. That's probably your weak area, along with having no PA shadowing experience. Where I live you can get nurse aid work uncertified and also physical therapy aide (not assistant) work. There is also scribe work. These are considered weaker HCE but would directly involve patients. I got an EMT cert in one semester at junior college, so that's a pretty low investment in time and money. Good luck!
  6. When PA programs increase to three years plus a residency, and the on the job mentoring aspect disappears, then you might as well merge PA/MD programs, I think. Already there are a few three year MD programs and some calls to get rid of some pre-requisites like the second semester of organic chemistry for medical school candidates. PA programs can only raise their requirements so high before students say, "Heck with being a PA, I'll just go to medical school!"
  7. EMEDPA the Emergency Room is not the center of the universe.
  8. Medical transcriptionists have been around for a long time. But medical scribing in the room, in real time with the clinician and the patient is a new thing - it only just started about 10 years ago with the advent of electronic health records. Lots of people who work in healthcare have no idea what a scribe does. Heck, some people in healthcare don't even know what a PA does and it's been 50 years since the first PAs were trained. It takes a long time for people to accept new ideas. I can tell you that, as a scribe, I generally have a better understanding of what's going on with a patient's current medical conditions than the LVN who works alongside myself and the pediatrician. The LVN will take the patient's vital signs and then come in to give the vaccinations, or give a nebulizer treatment, etc. But all the patient's history, how their asthma is doing, how the medications are working for their acne, what a specialist said what about the heart murmur or the upcoming surgery for undescended testes - all that I get to hear and learn about. I can read the previous note and understand that the patient is here for their follow up visit for ADHD evaluation, and I know that the parents should be bringing in Vanderbilt forms for the doctor to review. Sometimes I can type in the note which medications the patient will be prescribed before the doctor even says it. What I mean by all this is that many people do not yet realize how intimately involved scribes are. You cannot just type whatever rambles out of a patient's mouth. You have to organize all the information into problems and diagnoses which means you have to have an understanding of what's being talked about during the visit. It is true that actually touching patients is a whole different set of skills. Because of my EMT training (though I never worked on an ambulance), at my current job they let me room patients and take vital signs. I was very nervous when I started doing this with little babies and newborns. But now it's fine. They won't let me give vaccines, but I could easily learn to do that with proper training. The hands on medical stuff is actually EASIER than scribing. Sorry for the rant. If you can get hands-on patient care as an EMT or MA, or better yet a nurse or paramedic, then by all means get it. That's what most PA programs consider the best HCE. But if you get the chance to scribe you will really get a feel for what's going on in the clinician's mind. Some PA programs seem to be aware that scribing is valuable, and they are counting it as HCE.
  9. Retaking a class can raise your GPA, but not as much as you might think because both the new grade and the previous grade are counted. For example, if you had a C and you retook the class and got an A, both classes would count for your GPA and it would be the same as getting two B's. If the OP is at the end of his undergraduate studies with a 2.99 he can take or retake any class to bump it to 3.0. But getting to 3.5 would require an equal number of credits at 4.0, basically an entire second bachelor's degree with straight A's.
  10. It seems to me you breezed past the part where you have to take anatomy, physiology, microbiology, a year or more of chemistry, possibly nutrition, psychology and several other courses just to get into nursing school. If you have not taken science classes you are looking at about two years of pre-requisites before you can even apply to nursing school - you will not be able to work as an RN while you satisfy these pre-requisites (and more) for PA school.
  11. Are you serious? A paramedic with five years experience, biochem major with 3.5 GPA didn't get in?
  12. It seems to me that more and more people are interested in becoming PA's due to the great salary and scope of practice. However there are also more and more PA programs opening up. What is the consensus here - is it becoming more difficult to get in or easier?
  13. When I worked as a nurse aide/tech on a hospital floor, a few of the nurses were always wanting me to do my work faster. But there is a limit to how fast you can toilet and bathe people without being a jerk about it. It's not a car wash these are sick patients. I just worked at a steady, efficient pace and ignored anyone who bothered me. Some of the nurses could have been more helpful, instead of playing Candy Crush on their phones while I was hustling from room to room wiping up poop. There is a vast knowledge difference between a nurse aide and an RN, so it's not surprising that some of them are condescending. I left as soon as I could for another job. I was treated with much more respect when I left the hospital scene and started working in a clinic (as a medical scribe, but the medical assistants were also treated well there).
  14. Post bacc grades count. All your undergraduate and post bacc grades are lumped together, including both grades if you've taken the same course twice. One year of straight A's is not going to be enough to get to 3.0, but two years might do it, depending on how many units you take. You could possibly become an LVN or even RN in the same amount of time it takes to do a two year post bacc (A post bacc which could be worthless if you don't get into PA school).
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