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  1. You should never take a position that is strictly based on wRVU's and has no guaranteed base salary each year. I am actually going through contract negotiations myself right now and they tried to do this to me. I have since spent over 50 hours researching all about the RVU system and how it relates to PAs. I actually have a post about a week or so back on the same topic. There are a couple of great articles another PAForum member cited in that post of mine from a few weeks ago that will definitely help you out, I suggest give them a read. If you have any other questions, please feel free to contact me again via this post. Good luck.
  2. It almost sounds to good to be true. I'd make sure to go through that contract many times to make sure there are no surprises once I get it, just to be safe.
  3. A big concern of mine is what if something happens to my SP and I am limited with the number of surgical cases or patients I can see. He is an active guy and takes part in numerous sporting activities. What happens if, God forbid, he breaks his leg or worse his arm, and he is unable to perform surgery for 2-3 months? A senario like that and I could be in big trouble, no 1st assist cases for me for that same length of time, hence a big hit to my wRVUs. I just know that I have a big chunk of change every month that I have to throw at my student loans, I have to keep a roof over my head, and not to mention all the other bills that we all have. Worst case I could go from making a good/decent salary to not being able to make ends meet. Maybe I am thinking too much about this whole thing, but this is a big decision and I want to make sure that I have thought through any and all possible senarios.
  4. Thanks Coloradopa, I appreciate your feedback. I actually have read both of the articles that you posted while I have been researching the topic. Like you said, the devil is in the details. I just think I am going to try and get at least some sort of guaranteed base salary every year. Even if I stay at the 85,000 base pay, that equals out o 1821.30 wRVU's per year. If the system is fair to PAs and the average PA reaches roughly 3000 wRVUs per year, then I should be able to easily get past the $85,000 base salary that I would be asking for as a gaurantee. I may even see if in the second year they could up the base salary 3%-4% and do the same for the 3rd year. I am just really nervous about agreeing to a contract that has 2 years based solely on production and me being a new grad not knowing much about wRVU's or how this hospital handles it all. Thanks again
  5. I am a recent grad and have a job offer through a hospital that is heavily based on wRVU's. I have been researching the whole wRVU thing and still don't feel totally comfortable in understanding all the detais about it. I am a recent graduate and don't want to go into anything (i.e. sign a contract) that may come back to haunt me in the future. The job is with an orthopedic practice that is affiliated/part of the hospital. I would be working with an orthopedic surgeon much like I would be if I were at an ortho practice without the hospital affiliation, roughly 2 days assisting in the OR and 3 days in clinic. Call is every 1 in 8 days, so about 4 days per month. The job highlight details are: - 3 year contract term - Base salary in Year 1 of the greater of $85,000 or $46.67 per wRVU - Year 2 & 3 salary is production based at $46.67 per wRVU - wRVU target for Year 1 of 1,821.30 - $1,500 stipend for CME expenses and 5 days for CME activities - $500 stipend for licensing, dues, subscriptions, and memberships - Medical, dental, vision, 401(k) and many other standard benefits - 6 paid holidays per year - Accrued vacation, sick, and personal time What I don't like as a new grad, is that Year 2 & 3 of the contract there is no guaranteed base salary and it is totally on production/wRVU's. In my research, I know that there are a lot a variables to consider with wRVU production based salary. I realize that sometimes, in some systems, the PA is rendered invisible with their work and work they pergform can be placed under the Dr.'s NPI#. I don't want to get screwed here. I also know though, that if you have a fair opportunity and actually work hard, that you can be rewarded nicely with the wRVU model. Also the stipend of $500 for licensing and such seems a bit low to me, my state lic. alone cost me over $300 this year. I also feel that $1500 for CME is a bit low, as well as the 6 days of paid holidays. He did not give me the exact number of days for vacation/sick/personal time as of yet either, that is something I will inquire about and look at closely before signing anything. I am pretty sure that my health/dental/vision insurance is paid for by them at minimum of 85% but possibly 100%, I will find that out as well. This is what the hiring manager sent me as his initial highlights and he wanted me to look it over and give him my approval before he went ahead and drafted up the actual contract. What do you think? Is there anyone with any experience who could help shed some light on this deal for me? Whatever help or guidance you can give would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
  6. Prety much the exact lyrics to the Bucky Covington song "A Different World"
  7. I was promised that there would be good mentoring PTO is 3 weeks plus 7 National holiday days off They verbally said I would get CME when I asked, but nothing is in writing; also there is no days off for CME they will pay for all licenses I would be covered by their malpractice Lastly, they say they don't really have a "contract" so to speak, they say it is an at will job ( I can leave whenever I want and I could be let go at any time as well)
  8. Yes I did see and review the new AAPA report that just was released. The employer of course pushes the profit sharing plan as a positive selling point. Also, of course, they say that this area is not the highest area for salary. When they asked what base salary I was thinking, I said something with at least an 8 in front, they then said that they could no way pay that for a new grad, that is way to much for a new grad with no experience. They also said that the AAPA salary report is a bit high with their numbers, being a PA run organization.
  9. I did post this in the state specific section, but then I realized that it probably wouldn't get as much viewing there, so I thought I would ask the question here. I am a new grad of 1 month and just received my first job offer. It is with a pediatric orthopedic surgery practice. I was just wondering about the starting base salary they were offering and I thought it was a little low, even with the package they were offering, what do you all think??? they are offering me upper $70's starting base salary, 100% health & dental insurance, but the attractive thing is that they have a profit sharing plan where they contribute 20% of your salary each year and I would not have to contribute anything at all for my retirement plan. I become eligible for the program after 1 year on the job and then become 20% vested each year until after 5 years in the program (end of my 6th working year) I become 100% vested. I am in the central Florida region, and I realize that this is not the highest area for salary, but even with the great profit sharing plan is the starting base salary in the upper 70's still a little low for a new grad in a surgical specialty area of practice??? I will have to do a little call each month but not all that much, we have residents that take on a big portion of the call load. I may have 4 or so week days of call a month (7am-7am) but then I get the next day off after call, and I may have 1 weekend of call every 2 months or so. Any insight/advice would be greatly appreciated.
  10. I am a new grad of 1 month and just received my first job offer. It is with a pediatric orthopedic surgery practice. I was just wondering about the starting base salary they were offering and I thought it was a little low, even with the package they were offering, what do you all think??? they are offering me upper $70's starting base salary, 100% health & dental insurance, but the attractive thing is that they have a profit sharing plan where they contribute 20% of your salary each year and I would not have to contribute anything at all for my retirement plan. I become eligible for the program after 1 year on the job and then become 20% vested each year until after 5 years in the program (end of my 6th working year) I become 100% vested. I am in the central Florida region, and I realize that this is not the highest area for salary, but even with the great profit sharing plan is the starting base salary in the upper 70's still a little low for a new grad in a surgical specialty area of practice??? I will have to do a little call each month but not all that much, we have residents that take on a big portion of the call load. I may have 4 or so week days of call a month (7am-7am) but then I get the next day off after call, and I may have 1 weekend of call every 2 months or so. Any insight/advice would be greatly appreciated.
  11. I am a recent graduate and have my PANCE exam scheduled in the next month, my question is what Florida license do I apply for? I was told to get all my paperwork into the state ASAP and then all I would have to do is have my passing PANCE scores sent to the state. So, if I apply for a temporary license prior to taking my PANCE exam, will I have to re-apply for a regular license and pay more fees once my passing scores make it into the state? I don't want to have to pay for a license twice. Should I wait until I pass the PANCE and then send in all my paperwork? Any insight would be appreciated. Thanks
  12. Thanks to everyone who has posted to this thread, all the insight is greatly appreciated. I will continue to check this thread from time to time to see if any new posts get added.
  13. Thanks to everyone for taking the time to share your experiences, I know that all the new PA's who are getting ready to enter the workforce appreciate it. If anyone else has more examples of salaries/location/specialties for fresh PA's right out of school, please share them with us. Thanks
  14. These are all great examples, keep them coming, and please be sure to give the city/location so we can get a better idea of the normal range for those areas. You don't necessarily need to put the exact city if you don't want to but an estimated area would be helpful. Thanks again.
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