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  1. I'm definitely a he, lol. Location and price are the drawbacks for Harding and me. My feelings aren't hurt. I just don't know why any of it was a concern for you.
  2. You seem to have been rubbed a bit raw by my initial reply. I'm not sure why. I've not said a single derogatory word about your school or education. I did, however, point out that the tuition at Harding is more than I am willing to pay. Take that for what it's worth. I also don't see a lot of jobs advertised in Arkansas for PAs in psychiatric care settings. If they're out there then hey I'm wrong. I make mistakes, but I'm not aware of PAs providing a lot of psychiatric-specific care here so no PAs don't seem to delve off into psych much. If they do, I'd like to know. I'm very much in favor of PAs and prefer the broad, biomedical education over anything nursing can offer. I never made a statement about the classes you take. I believe all along I've pointed out that PA classes are better than NP classes. http://www.harding.edu/PAprogram/Curriculum.html That looks great to me. I envy that you get to take those things, but I don't envy it enough to pay nearly $10k / semester; http://www.harding.edu/PAprogram/Admission.html#tuition. I don't see how my life and career would benefit by that expense thus the statement, "...the cost isn't worth the benefit, IMO." It's not a bad place. I've been to Searcy, and I've been on the Harding campus albeit a decade ago while attending a hazardous material course sponsored by the Arkansas Dept. of Emergency Management. I don't want to move to northeast Arkansas or Crowley's Ridge so again, there's a personal drawback to me. In 2005, I was in contact over the course of a few months with a faculty member of the PA program there. No, I don't remember the person's name or even gender, but I concluded that Searcy, Harding, and the tuition wasn't for me. With respect to your final sentence, clearly they're different physiologically, but I've seen them enough that I'm not interested in them anymore as a career focus. As a result, it's all the same; come to work, see it, treat it, go home. Call it burn out, disinterest, a preference to move on to something different, who can say? Most of us look for some kind of change in the workplace at some point. Why trample on how I feel about it though? I'm still not sure why you're upset, but I hope I've smoothed things over.
  3. If you want to know more and do more medically then be a PA. If you want to sit in meeting rooms and do admin stuff do NP.
  4. I am a RN, and my state school (UAMS) recently initiated its first PA program. I also have no idea what it costs. Ok, there's a PA program in place at Harding University, but it's a private school so the cost isn't worth the benefit, IMO. I became a RN incidentally while working full-time as a police officer. I haven't been on these forums in forever so I'll give it my take. I'm in a NP program. I started it as soon as I finished my RN/BSN program. I don't want to function as a RN. That's not an ideal career path for me. There was not really an option to become a PA, and I realized I had other things going on in life that I didn't want to forsake to go to medical school. That said, NP was the most efficient path. I'm actually doing psychiatric/mental health, and that's a role that PA's don't delve into much,and at the moment it seems that psych NP will be the best NP route to get a job with here. I'm also able to do much of the didactic work online, and the program really doesn't cost that much. I'm able to work full-time, live life, and do the NP thing. I was able to work full-time, live life, and do the RN thing. I don't know if I'd have been able to do that in PA school or anyother "advanced" healthcare program. Had I to do it all over again, I'd have probably chosen the PA route for reasons already described by Friction above. The PA path follows the medical model, and as a result the classes would appear, from the outside looking in, more geared toward what I want to know. Nursing doesn't really push physio/patho/pharm as a body of knowledge critical to the profession. I'm not sure why. I like the biology stuff more than the task-oriented nursing stuff. My first degree concentrated in biology many years ago, and I used to work part-time as a paramedic, while an officer, so I had the prereq healthcare experienced needed by PA programs. Now, as I look at myself, I don't really want to deal with HTN, DM, Alz, COPD, CHF, etc. I see that everyday at work, and it's pretty much all the same to me. I'm bored with that as a staple so I wouldn't think primary care, as a PA, NP, MD, DO, or XYZ, would've been appealing to me. I think I'd been unhappy in the longterm. We still don't see midlevels used that much in ERs in Arkansas, and I don't want to wait around for the gate to open for that to become common enough that I'd find a job in that arena . I'm also unwilling to leave AR. That doesn't leave a lot of options. The nursing doctorate was brought up, and I think that's the biggest pile of **** to hit healthcare. UAMS is gearing up to start offering a DNP in coming semesters, and I don't see any utility or practicality in it. I've yet to see a DNP program focused on science, and for the fact that nursing, for whatever reason, tries to distance itself from biomedical science so the DNPs will never be rich in the -ologies with nothing left to focus on but nursing theories, managerial matters, and that line of education. Bear in mind, I have no idea what the curriculum will be for the DNP program here. I'm only concerned with finishing my master's and being done with school permanently. Between two bachelor's, an associate's, and a master's program I've spent enough time in the classroom. But to summarize, they would become a PA for a better education.
  5. I'm not a PA either. I'm some kind of wannabe.
  6. I'm so glad to see an Arkansas thread now. I guess when I want to talk to myself I'll come post in it.
  7. Why are you replying to me telling me this? I know why they take the courses. Obviously, if other courses were eliminated then the MCAT would be altered.
  8. I posted a link to an article on SDN a while back from the New York Post I think about future (not distant future) of eliminating some premed courses in substitution for others. I think a lot of hopeful doctors have their fantasies smashed by having to memorize countless physics formulas as well as whatever the hell goes on in organic chemistry. It's why I gave up on premed in college. I felt like I had better things to do at the time than sit around doing school work. Histology is not really that cool to me. Once I've seen an example I'm like ok let's move on. I had histo in Vert. Zoo. and A&PI. I went way more in depth in zoo class than I did A&P. Neuroscience kinda blows too I think once you complicate things with action potentials and the like. The anatomy, physio, patho, and pharm would be cool though. That program is just so freakin pricey!
  9. Well, my connotation for "picked on" is "flirted with" so yeah if you took it the same way then I could see that.
  10. I thought RNs existed to get picked on. I know cops and firemen would agree. ;)
  11. :eek: That's a HUGE leap in price. I hope they don't have any OOS students.
  12. I don't think I'd want to portray the fact that my prereqs and so forth came from an online associate's program via an associate's degree that I completed years after finishing my bachelor's. That's just me though. Good luck.
  13. I think one of the links took me to south university where I noticed there was an online health science degree packed with those kinds of courses. Most of us are non-traditional students and are taking these classes just to jump through the required hoops. We do whatever fits our schedule.
  14. I wish I could find pathophysiology and pharmacology offered this spring (2010) online at an affordable college. Since this is more for the hobbyist I don't want to pay too much. :confused:
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