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  1. It might be kindof tough to find 2 part-time jobs that would dovetail well as a new grad. There are a number of folks on here who have had a tough time finding jobs as new grads. Your payments shouldn't be too bad on that amount...why not put out feelers, and see what sorts of offers you get for full-time work. And hit the forum archives and read about people feeling overwhelmed at their new jobs and how they adjust to theC after their names.
  2. The poor guy is probably stressed out, and on some level, resentful of his wife. I can imagine who he is probably expending so much energy on helping her, and trying to cope, that he feels like he is always 2nd rate. Ironically, asking about her, and seeing his reaction shows that this is definitely an issue for him, and probably making his health worse overall.
  3. I'm surprised no one has jumped all over you yet. Since you are obviously new to the Forum, you should read the Forum Rules. This post belongs in the Pre-PA section. PA-Cs read all the sections; you don't need to post here to get an answer from a professional. That being said, I'm an OT, and I would like to let you know that the majority of PTs do not work with athletes, at least not semi-pro or pro. The jobs are elsewhere, and working with pros is very competitive. Why do you want to be a PA? What has your experience with PAs been so far? I definitely think that shadowing them and talking to them, would go a long way in showing how they work. PT as a field is very treatment focused, and has extended periods of patient interaction. You're generally with a patient for 30 or 60 minutes, which is much higher than the normal amount of time one spends with a doc or PA. PTs are going to use exercise, education, heat, ice, electrical stimulation, ultrasound and manual therapy to treat their patients. PAs are going to function more like doctors, diagnosing issues and then treating them with medication, recommendations, referrals to therapy, injections, and sometimes surgery. As a therapist, I would say the problems they treat may overlap, but the way they approach them, mentally, and the treatments they do, are totally different. In my experience, the docs also don't understand what goes on in therapy a great deal...since they don't do it. They tend to see the patient at the beginning, and then again aroudn the end, but not the day to day of the course of treatment.
  4. How long will it take for you to take PANCE and get your state license, and anything else you need? As devil's advocate, the MA thing might not be them trying to take an advantage, but rather give you a job earning *something* right off the bat. I can't count the laments I've read on here of folks who are in a Catch-22 of no one paying them attention cause they don't have the C after their name, but then once they have it, having months after graduation of no income. Perhaps you could meet with the preceptor and discuss some of the concerns raised here? I would say don't burn any bridges, especially if you don't have any other leads
  5. VentJock, I'm glad to see you're still around. I appreciate when those who are/were regulars on the board and have shifted paths(Firemedic, I think this includes you) share your stories and stay involved. It makes the forum feel friendlier and more welcoming, as well as a worthwhile tool for learning and sharing. Thank you.
  6. Why not an LPN program? That isn't too much of an investment in time or money, but way better experience than as a CNA. Also, you could see about getting a job in GI or pulm office with your knowledge. It would pay better as an LPN, and give you more options while you continue your schooling. They can work in hospitals or doctor's offices, amb-surg centers, home health, etc. And honestly, everywhere I've worked, CNAs have so many patients and so much to do, if they are regularly spending time reading patient's charts, then they aren't getting everything done. Most places have a separate book for CNAs with flow sheets, ADL cards and stuff like that.
  7. I signed up for a phlebotomy class exactly for this reason....has nothing to do with my OT license or my job. It was 8 weeks, Tues and Thurs nights and I got over that fear within that time frame. For me, I wasn't confident going in, because I was afraid that the patient would faint or panic, which made me very nervous. Then, I did it a few times, and it got easier, and then I had a patient faint on me, and I realized the world didn't end. I'm fine with watching surgery anywhere except the face. For me, the smell of surgery is unpleasant...but it is something you can get over, to get the job done. Whether you want to make a career out of it or not is another story...
  8. This thread seems to have meandered a bit. To the OP, I have worked for 8 years in healthcare, the last 4 in occupational therapy. I love the theory of it, and sometimes I love my job, but there are definitely downsides. I think this is one of the reasons HCE is so important. Knowing the nittygritty of the job is important, and whenever I have students, I try to make that clear to them. I love healthcare, and yes it is about helping people...but not every minute of the day. There are many mundane tasks, lots of paperwork(some of which is pointlessly redundant and never read) and apathetic clinicians who are in a rut. There are also apathetic or downright oppositional patients who don't want to make changes in their life, and want to be fixed by a magic wand. There are patients who are unintentionally difficult, or smelly and gross. There are politics involved, and constantly changing and increasing pressures from administration to do things there way, sometimes with lip service to clinical appropriateness, and sometimes not even that. There are payment and insurance issues, that affect the care patients are able receive and affect the choices some clinicians make. Knowing all of this, I am confident about continuing on in healthcare, maybe not for the next 40 years, but definitely for a good while. Once you really understand what you're getting into and what about healthcare pushes your buttons, you can decide if it's right for you. Someone gave some stats about the number of emergent cases and that's a very important thing to know. The percentages might be different in other fields, but know that not every patient wants to be helped, some can't be helped, and you have to focus on the ones who you actually help to keep you going, and let go of the rest. That is something that I am still refining every day.
  9. And if they big bad lawyers ask you if you consulted with your SP, and you didn't, how is that supposed to sound good? What RC said may not be the best choice in a CYA sense, it removes trust in the SP, and seems to be the less ethical way to proceed.
  10. Definitely let natural selection take its course
  11. To the OP, are you asking about how one defines a good PA, or what are qualities that are predictors of success?
  12. bobuddy, I am not trying to change the subject. I am trying to point out how it is a silly, pointless fear. Liability is unavoidable. Physicians, as do do all who work in healthcare, live in liability every day. Partly because of the nature of the work, and partly because Americans love to sue people. My point was, liability isn't going away. PAs need to challenge the idea that they are some sort of accident waiting to happen.
  13. So what about the liability of hiring LPNs and CMAs instead of actual RNs. How about hiring medical billers who aren't even licensed and might not have more than vocational training?
  14. The similar issue comes up in occupational therapy, with OT assistants and whether or not they should do a transition program to a masters in OT to become an OTR/L. Everyone has an opinion. For some it comes down to money, for some the increased scope of practice matters and others it doesn't. With therapy, though, I don't think it is nearly so controversial though. There are I think 8 transition programs, but all private and terribly expensive.
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