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  1. Provisionally accredited is fully accredited by the ARC standards. It’s only used for a new program less than 5 years of matriculation of the first cohort. You’re still able to sit for PANCE, I’d recommend reaching out to students from the accepted program and students from your first/second choices. I can guarantee you there are similarities in peeves and perks. Also look closely at tuition prices. My current program was most expensive compared to other my other acceptances but after an extensive financial break down of all my expected costs and tuition vs unit total to graduate my “expensive” program was actually the cheaper program by $5k (it included by health insurance, I NEVER had to buy books-since our library had them all, tuition per unit/ total units(highly variable for programs some as high as 105 units to 80 units.) Also consider the annual tuition increases. Best bet put down the $1k save yourself the headache from reapplying in case you don’t get any other interviews. If you’re a student with 3.7 sGPA and over 4K PCE you could get a few more interviews. $1k is nothing compared to long run. It will cost you $500 (3-4 programs) to reapply next year and considering a loss of potential PA income for an additional year. Its quite the predicament to be in, but worthwhile to give the accepted school a better second look before rejecting the offer. I hope you find some clarity!
  2. Interview invites typically go out August (September interviews) and October (November interviews).
  3. It’s best to wait until they post your degree conferred on the transcripts. Saves you the headache/heartache and a little more cash. From my experience most schools will not reach out due to applicant load, I had received a few emails of rejection shortly after submitting stating I didn’t meet a criteria and it confused me since I only applied to schools I qualified for. One program out of the 5 was nice enough to reach out and ask for another copy sent(spending more $$$$ and expedited) with the degree conferred date. Explained why I was autorejected. Hope that helps
  4. Provisional accreditation is the same as accredited. Provisional is just used because the program is new (<5 years). In order to start a program the ARC guidelines are strict, they have two goals one the success of students and two upholding the PA profession. Provisional is up to the same standards as those that are accredited. If a program lapses in it’s standards as a new program there are provisional probationary standards. Even if you matriculate into that you still can qualify for PANCE. Where it gets iffy if you have to weigh a choice between a program that has been on accredited probation for longer than 2 years with an upcoming accreditation meeting before you matriculate versus provisional accreditation, I would personally pick the provisional because it’s a sure thing I’ll become a PA. Look at ARC updates on schools and usually it tells you when they have the next accreditation meeting for each program. Hope that helps. Best of luck
  5. I believe for the application it’s only required if you’ve ever been found guilty of a misdemeanor or felony. But depending on what happened in the case if someone was found negligent, it can hinder employment prospects after PA school. Typically it’s the physician’s responsibility to oversee employees are conducting themselves in a professional manner and following the policies.
  6. I got asked this question for several interviews. My answer was always the same, I applied to several schools that I knew I’d be competitive for. Gaining acceptance to PA school is difficult, somewhat unpredictable too if you’re accepted or waitlisted. Every year it gets more competitive and most programs factor in diversity of the cohort along with stats. You’re just ensuring you don’t put all your eggs in one basket I don’t think it’s necessarily a negative impression. Adcoms turn down highly qualified applicants every year. But tying back to the question I would go into details what I looked for in programs and how this program I’m interviewing fulfills that checklist, talk about the unique things about this program and why you’d attend this program over others if given a seat.
  7. I would recommend putting down the seat deposit. Worst case scenario you don’t get in any of the Oregon programs but you get to still attend a PA program. It is truly a different feeling attending interviews when you have been accepted elsewhere and much more enjoyable process without the stress. On interview days schools rank applicants on the performance but I wouldn’t say every student is equal in their eyes solely based off performance (depending on the program) since they still weigh stats of students to determine who gets the seats, what value does a certain student bring to a cohort, or where someone is positioned on a waitlist as well. In the long run $500-$1000 seat deposit is a minimal loss compared to doing another CASPA cycle. If Oregon is where you want to work maybe you can talk to the program in CA and they can find a rotation there for you to establish some connections.
  8. I wouldn’t recommend online science courses due to some programs being very strict on those requirements and can limit your application choices. I did all my prereqs at a CC and saved a TON of money, I will never regret CCs! I applied to 8 schools and received interviews to every program and acceptances to those interviews I decided to do. I was a liberal arts major at notoriously difficult undergrad. I did take a few upper divisions biology courses just because. Proved them that I don’t need to be a bio major to be a provider, and there are no skills you learn by majoring in bio other than memorization. In my opinion there is no “top PA programs”, all are governed by the same entities with the same standards. What I do judge programs by is the PANCE scores anything below the national average is not worth taking a risk for. Find the school that fits what you want to do in your PA profession. Also there’s only like a handful of programs that care about where you did your prereqs, for the other 250 programs they don’t care. Plus those handful of programs are shooting themselves in the foot by lack of diversity. Students that come from a more affluent background would be able to complete all the prereqs at 4 year. I hope that helps you in your decision best of luck to you!
  9. This is correct. Only verified applications will get screened by programs for an interview. And each programs varies when they begin the screening process for interviews. I agree the best advice is to look back on previous cycles forums to get an idea how long it takes from the time someone else submitted to hear back, especially if you submitted around the same time as the previous applicant. I wouldn’t say it’s 100% accurate but take a good start to get an estimate.
  10. Signed, reminder to verify your email after submission for it to count! Thanks
  11. This is a tough decision. Did you apply to any other programs and if so are you on any waitlists? If not— you’d have to reapply and would you be okay with possibly not being accepted (considering each cycle gets more competitive, if you’re stats are below average) if your first semester is online you’ll still need supportive faculty. Maybe faculty would be less inclined to give harsh comments since there’s a paper trail for online formats?? You’ll be going through difficult material and first semester is usually the hardest, just the mass amount of information and acclimating to this new stress. It’s important to know who voluntarily dropped and who was dismissed by the program. Review what gets you academically dismissed. Most programs are pretty cognizant on dismissals because it can look bad on the program. Also what kind of lawsuit? Do you know the details of it, does it pertain to a previous student? If so then that’s a major red flag— maybe they can make changes by getting rid of a faculty that was harsh and so forth?
  12. Yup. You’re not missing anything, they favor the NP program plus the NP students qualify for way better scholarships than the PA students whom receive “scholarships” literally they get 5-8k off tuition but seems rather silly when students from the NP program don’t pay an arm and leg for the same damn education. They also gave the the NP students the ability to sit for the PANCE, but the PA students can’t earn dual credentials. The PA program is more of a cash cow for Davis . If you’re looking for a public PA program CSUMB has a much friendlier program that cares about their students debt.
  13. Its debatable, I personally don’t believe in getting a masters degree truly because it’s such an expensive route to take to only support that you can handle the rigors of grad school—it’s an extremely expensive option to do that doesn’t really raise your GPA significantly. PA school is expensive so you have to consider the cost of everything. What I would recommend is to do post bachelor classes if you need to. IMO take a lot of upper division science classes in undergrad, do well in them. Caspa uses the OVERALL gpa to weed out those that don’t meet GPA requirements for programs. You’re in a somewhat fortunate position since you haven’t graduated and have the opportunity to catch up and raise your undergraduate gpa. Like I said it’s going to be a lot of work! But it’s doable. I’ve attached the caspa application guide on how they calculate your gpa and of course only apply to schools that will weight what benefits you like the programs that look only at the last 60 units of credits etc. I hope that helps. https://help.liaisonedu.com/CASPA_Applicant_Help_Center/Submitting_and_Monitoring_Your_CASPA_Application/Verification_and_GPA_Calculations_for_CASPA/2_How_Your_GPA_is_Calculated#Overview
  14. Anything is possible if you put your mind to it and change. It might be a difficult road to get there but not impossible. You’ll be asked why and be ready to explain what went on in your personal statement and how have you changed and what will you do differently. PA schools will look at it as a red flag but as long as you make positive improvements, develop good skills, and seek help to ensure you don’t get dismissed while in PA school. You’ll need a couple of years of solid coursework to prove you’re ready (also recovering your GPA), so I wouldn’t recommend applying in the next year. Remember that no applicant is perfect we all make mistakes along the way but it’s what you do about your mistakes, how you learn from them is what makes you a strong applicant.
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