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  1. Hi all, For PCE hours, would you say it is more about gaining experience working with patients (touching them, working with their quirks, understanding bedside manner, etc) or more about gaining knowledge for PA school and your career? I originally thought scribing would be best - gain lots of knowledge, and was confused why something like physical therapy aide would be an option for PCE (how much do you learn about being a generalist in medicine from that?). But now I am starting to realize that I might have this backwards for many programs - and that they would rather have a PT aide over scribing because of more "hands on" experience working with patients - is that correct? Of course I'm sure it depends on programs, and having both combined is even better. Any thoughts are helpful, thanks!
  2. I think you should really think about the learning aspect rather just what degree and how it all looks. I also got a degree in something non-science and now have spent a 5th year going back (at age 26) and getting my pre-reqs done and I have a completely different mindset about school. It is not all about getting a particular degree and just taking tests - if you love medicine you should be full divested into learning all you can about the information to be great for your patients. So I would focus most on what path gives you the most opportunity to learn - if you do not feel like bio is it (because of physics, calculus, etc requirements) than something else could work. Maybe you need to slow down and take only a couple hard science classes at a time and really focus on your study strategies/learning the most you can? At the same time volunteer in health care and shadow to make sure this is something you could see yourself doing. Remember, there is no deadline, I wish someone told me this - I rushed to get my bachelor's done in 4 years and never stopped to think about what I was doing and why I was doing it. Good luck to you!
  3. I can’t comment exactly how admissions looks at things since I’m still a pre-PA myself but I know Cs in pre-req classes will not look good since that isn’t an acceptable grade in graduate school. Might want to look into more how schools you are interested in treat W’s (could email and ask them). As far as your grades I hope this doesn’t come off wrong but at some point every person will learn that the teacher is only part of the grande scheme of learning. A class like general biology there is likely a text book, a bunch of free YouTube lecture videos, Khan academy videos (I used these for general bio because I also had a teacher who wasn’t great). If you are passionate enough about learning the material there is always a way! This is actually a great thing - the internet and open education gives you so many options you don’t have to rely on your teacher (as many would have had to in the 1950s for example ahha). Self learning is huge considering you’ll probably have to do this for many many more years - maybe the rest of your life as medical information is always evolving. Take any negative energy you feel about your teacher- ignore the negative energy of others in the class and harness that into a positive energy that you are taking your education into your own hands. You got this!
  4. At 25 I decided to go back to school after getting an Econ degree and working in finance (which I hate). I think first you got to be understanding that this may take 2-3 years to get to where you want. With classes, PCE, applying to grad school... and that’s just to get into PA school. That is SO worth it for me because 5 years vs 40+ of miserable career is worth it for me. But it isn’t easy. With your GPA I think you’d benefit from making sure to focus on school first. I made the mistake of trying to do 2 lab classss another class and working 25+ hrs a week, I couldn’t get As so I dropped work. Now I’m about to finish my pre-reqs and going to spend the next year or so working full time. I haven’t been accepted so take it with a grain of salt but my 4.0 gpa in my pre-reqs shows I’m committed. You really should focus and get a stellar post-bacc GPA to show you are ready for PA school. The more classes you take that are extra requirements the more schools you can apply to that less people are applying to which results in better chances. Also should not take “intro” courses if avoidable and try and take 200+ or more, show you can handle the thought stuff. Also if you havent already shadow a bunch of health care professionals: PAs, nurses, etc and get a feel for it. Best of luck!
  5. I’m not a PA student so take my opinion with a grain of salt - but you can always get more PCE and work more years before grad school (which honestly you probably should do since you are young, get some life experience) but you can’t go back and fix a poor GPA. If balancing all isn’t working for you, worry about school first and foremost because a poor GPA will be an automatic no and can’t go back from that. You are young, don’t stress too much just get the ball rolling!
  6. My undergrad school (Portland State) reached out to OHSU and they said they would make 100% take online anatomy for any of their graduate programs. Also mentioned that they would believe that a majority if not all other programs would as well due to the circumstances. I’d say don’t fret and keep pushing through!
  7. Thank you both! Y’all had good points - anything I can do to limit competition is worth it, didn’t really think of it that way. I am worried about having more limited hours so off I go to study...stay safe out there.
  8. Hi there! I am currently taking A&P 3 (last one) and patho and was planning to also study the GRE. As I have my GRE study material and am on day 4 of studying I'm sort of wondering why I am doing this, haha. I don't mind putting in the time but every time that I pick up the GRE material instead of diving greater into additional videos on cancer or the immune system in patho and A&P, I wonder why this test? I have seen that PA schools are working on creating another admissions test which points me into thinking they also see how the GRE is lacking? I would think my ability to pass pre-reqs would give a better indication? Background: -26 yrs old, postbacc original degree in Economics. Live in Portland, OR. -3.79 GPA currently, 4.0 in postbacc prerequisites: Gen chem, Bio, A&P, micro, genetics, pharmacology, etc -Took up to calc 3 and got all As -B's I got in college were in my economic courses I obviously didn't care about: labor economics is a bore compared to my love for health economics. -50 hours shadowing, no paid patient care. Plan to take the next year working full time for patient care hours, but still will only likely have maybe 2,000? Not great I know. I plan to apply to a lot of schools, I have no problem leaving the state and have no restrictions on where I would apply. So give it to me straight: should I suck it up and study for the GRE or does it make sense to focus on other things and limit myself to schools that do not require the GRE? Thank you!
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