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  1. I'd say go for the retail job. When I graduated I had a few months gap as well between passing pance and starting the position due to the crazy credentialing process. I worked as a waiter in a pretty busy restaurant and was able to get some cash to hold me through until I started. Was able to pay off my DEA fees (employer did not pay), renew ACLS/BLS, and take care of my car payments for a few months, as well as save up for buying gifts for family/friends for the holidays as well. Most importantly, it was something i could get in and make money right away. Ideally a clinical job would be the best option, but they usually have training periods as well and it would take time to get fully established. If you just want to make some quick cash, retail would be the best option. Also it would be a low stress position to give you time to prep for your PA position, spend time with family/friends, and give you time for yourself to relax.
  2. I know name change has been discussed multiple times in the past with no real progress made. When I first entered practice 10 years ago there were talks of name change, with nothing to show for it. However, I do truly believe the time has come and its on its way. The difference between the past attempts and now is that there is actual movement and a legitimate plan in place, like the establishment of this advisory council. We can't truly know until it actually happens, but in my mind I think in about 3 years we will no longer have to dread having the "assistant" in our profession.
  3. Yea i didn't read that, a year since graduating is a long time. Not trying to sound critical, but was there a reason why you waited that long? Were you looking for jobs only in a specific area or speciality? Because having difficulty in finding a job after a year of looking seems a bit much. Just trying to understand better to offer help
  4. Agree. Large teaching hospitals usually have a set training for new grads and new hires, and even after the the training they will make sure you are comfortable and have the proper mentoring. If you really feel that anxious, instead of volunteering or shadowing to gain confidence, I would highly recommend looking into a reputable residency program. It will provide a structured, hands-on training and you will at least get paid a little.
  5. Big hospitals usually understand that new grads are going to require training to some extent. Especially in subspecialties, physicians know that the PA education/training doesn't equate to the knowledge base that they acquired through their residency and years of practice. So if they were to ask you a clinical question, it would be something basic that you should know, not something crazy. Some of my colleagues are in charge of hiring PAs and they do sometimes ask clinical questions just to see the thought process of the candidate. One question that some of them ask is "what labs should you order on a patient with new onset post-op a fib?"
  6. Yea I'm kinda confused, are you actually hired right now or are you shadowing and doing work for free? Does the physician know you are a new grad? Cause at my hospital PAs have a thorough 3-month training with other PAs before they work shifts on their own, and even then it takes months to feel somewhat comfortable. At the same time, it will feel intimidating at first and you do have to muster up some confidence in yourself. Just make sure to find the right balance of knowing things that you know vs. what you don't know to avoid putting the patient's health in jeopardy.
  7. LOL for real. Almost every negative thread started within the last 3 months was started by EMfuturePA. Don't get me wrong, its good to bring out certain topics to make others aware and to change the profession for the better, but if you are going to constantly trash PAs and NPs with falsified information, it might be better for you to not be involved in the profession at all.
  8. PACJD

    PA Perfusionist

    I worked with many perfusionists and became friends with a lot of them. The certification takes around a year to get, but they said it is extremely difficult to find a job and many places will only hire those with experience. There are usually only 3-4 per hospital in hospitals that do CABGs. They do get paid well, 90k-100k in my hospital, and I think the average is more around the realm of 110-120k. As stated above, the job is pretty routine once you know what you are doing, so it isn't too interesting. And the ones in my hospital would constantly get b*tched at by the CT surgeons and I would stand there quietly, feeling bad for them. As they were telling me, the main negative about this job is that it is extremely difficult to find a job. And when you want to leave you really can not, as you are risking finding another position elsewhere.
  9. Like sas5814 said, many new grads have a few gap months after passing PANCE and starting first job. When I graduated years ago, I took the PANCE in June and didn't start working until October/November. Many of my classmates started around September/October since they had jobs lined up before graduation. So, for the most part, there is usually a 2-4 months gap for credentialing and what not. Now i don't know what your case is? Have you been accepted to a residency already and are just waiting to start? Or are you going to wait to apply to a residency in 7-10 months, not knowing if you will actually get accepted yet? Because if you have been accepted to a residency/job and are just waiting for the start date, they will usually give you some material to review on your own time, so it is possible to get a non-clinical job to have some source of income while you wait, and then brush up on some material to keep the knowledge fresh in your mind. However if you are waiting to apply to a residency until next year, it may be wise to first find a position working as a PA somewhere and then apply to the residency when the time comes.
  10. Are you a pre-PA, a PA student, or a PA-C? Cause unless you are a student or practicing PA you can't say our profession. And unless you actually work as a PA you can't really comment on how great it is. How many hospitals have you actually been in to be able to judge? Don't mean to be a jerk, but its definitely variable in the scope of practice of each PA, dependent on speciality, location, and the hospital in general. There are definitely things about the profession that aren't great and needs to be improved. At the end of the day, physicians are physicians and mid-levels are mid-levels. We each have our role. There are perks, benefits, and negatives of each. Do your research and shadow if you can before you make your decision.
  11. PACJD

    PAs Are Sexy

    Hey I mean, it might not mean much to some of you but I'll take it!
  12. Definitely agree with what you have to say. Right now we as PAs are in a good place, in 5 years or so we may not be, so we need to make changes for what is to come. Just for clarification my comments about panicking wasn't directed toward you but others on this thread.
  13. Well said. What people don't understand is that the NP profession are making strides because they have a good political body, they have a good political body because they have the numbers. Additionally, they have a lot of experienced RNs with high stature in their hospital system, who are doing online programs to get their NP, thus when they graduate they may have some room for negotiation when it comes to salary. My mother was an NP, and my aunt and cousin are NPs. They love what they do, but there are definitely downfalls of the profession just like there are downfalls in the PA profession, just like there are downfalls in every profession. I too am all for OTP and name change and I do think changes need to be made within the next 5 years otherwise we are in trouble, but there is no need for the panic at the current moment.
  14. ^^ Looks like someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed. All I am saying is that over the 10 years I have been practicing, my salary has increased significantly from 80k to 150k, benefits stayed the same, I have seen the same with my colleagues. Also 10 years ago jobs were scarce, but now new grads are getting 10+ offers all worth 100k+ in NYC (supposedly one of the more saturated areas in the nation). There is no doubt things that need to be changed, otherwise the profession will start to take a hit. OTP and name change being a few of those things. I think we are on par with NPs at the moment, and without this movement we will be left in the dust. Don't get me wrong its not all bells and whistles, but I think some of you are overreacting just cause your hospital system is cutting salaries at the moment.
  15. I strongly beg to differ. Be careful making generalizations like that, as you really cannot speak for the whole country. Maybe that is the way it is in your region, but I can tell you that is not the way it is by me. NYC is thriving right now, and in the past 10 years I can tell you that the salaries have increased 30-40k per year on average. I am a preceptor for several students, many of whom received multiple job offers in various specialities at >105k/yr. Some are even starting at 115-120k /yr. When I started practicing 10 yrs ago, I started at 83k and that was considered very good. I'm sorry that you are in the situation you are in and that your bonus was taken away. Maybe its time to look for a different job or relocate. As far as I am concerned, I believe salaries will continue to increase over the next 5 years as long as OTP and name change are being worked on.
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