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  1. 2nd-year student here only 7-months til graduation. I am starting to study for the PANCE and would like to pass the first time. Any recommendations for study materials? What do you all think about using the SMARTY PANCE (http://smartypance.com/) website for preparation? Are there any recommended online courses or material you would recommend? Thank you in advance for any advice. Respectfully, A very worried PAS-2
  2. Yes that looks like an updated list of our current faculty. It even has our newest faculty Rick Norwood so I trust it is the most up to date.
  3. Oh my goodness thank you Timon for the resources! I was sweating the PAEA exams! My first PAEA exam isn't until January but I'm starting my chart as you suggested already. Seriously thank you for the guidance. I was feeling a little overwhelmed and lost and didn't know where to start.
  4. Thank you so much. Starting my studies on inpatient/internal medicine! I will use the blueprint as a guide and will seek out practice questions from Kaplan and Exam Masters. Thank you very much. My first PAEA isn't until January but I'm staritng to study now!
  5. This was completely uncalled for. I will always defend our program, our school, and our faculty becasue I know how hard they work for us students. Putting a fellow classmate in the cross hairs...I dunno...not cool. For one we don't even know if this is true. It's impossible to know for sure who posted what. Here's what I have to say to anybody selecting a school. Do your research. I went to OHSU and pretty much to all schools in Cali and visited their campuses. Talked to current students, program directors, and toured the campuses. I needed to get a feel of how the school was. I reviewed mission statements visited student run clinics. It cost me a lot a money but I felt if I was gonna spend two years of my life somewhere and spend over 200,000 it was worth it to put in the time to research. I ultimately chose Davis becasue of the students I talked to and the innovative ideas they had about inter-professionalism. I saw what Davis was trying to achieve in the big picture and I wanted to be a part of it. I do not regret my choice and will always defend our program, however as much as I disagree with people who think our program is horrible, this post was completely uncalled for.
  6. Many of my classmates tell me the PAEA EOR exams are challenging and the study blue print provided is useless. We are just starting our clinical year and nobody as really figured out how to do do well...people pass, but I want to do well. Any tips on how to prepare for the PAEA EOR exams?
  7. I am a second year student in clinical rotations with UC Davis. Every program faces challenges and we all have our individual frustrations with this program however the plus' outweigh my frustrations. The students that have been complaining have only been here for one quarter hardly enough time to make a fair assessment of our program. We are PA students learning advanced medicine. This isn't undergrad anymore and this isn't just grad school. It's PA school and it's a different kind of beast. At some point students will have to learn that a lot of their education is on them and take responsibility for it. The school guides us with lectures kind of outlining what we need to know. It is up to us on how we fill in the rest and how we do it is our choice. There are plenty of resources here that can help any student succeed. Faculty, 2nd-year students, student run clinics, talks/seminars outside of class hours, med students, your own cohort...it is what you make it. A student needs to be proactive in their learning and not expect the school to spoon fee it to them. For every one student that complains I can find you two that say the opposite. Our school is going through some changes and I have only seen improvement since I've been here. The staff work tirelessly behind the scenes to accommodate student needs. We have one of the best clinical rotation faculties in the whole UC system. I can tell you that as a 2nd-year the school has adequately prepared me for my clinical rotations. You can go to any program and find people who will complain. I am a student going out of my way to tell you the opposite. Our program is a good program it's currently going through a lot of change, expanding, and of course there are bumps in the road. However I truly believe that this program will be one of the top in the nation.
  8. Many of my classmates tell me the PAEA EOR exams are challenging and the study blue print provided is useless. We are just starting our clinical year and nobody as really figured out how to do do well...people pass, but I want to do well. Any tips on how to prepare for the PAEA EOR exams?
  9. Dr. Paul Bolin on YouTube is great. USMLE crash review! Saved my butt in Nephrology, GI, and heamtology.
  10. Let's start out by saying that this student has only spent one quarter here. Hardly enough time to make a fair assessment of our program. I am a current 2nd-year student on clinical rotations and honestly have no regrets. Did I have my frustrations with the program? Of course I did. The lectures and objectives seem to be disconnected with the exams. Some of the leadership classes seemed like busy work and distracted me from studying pharmacology and medicine. Yes it is true that we didn't get to spend as much time as I thought we would in the advanced simulation lab. However there have been many cohorts before this one that have figured out how to take and pass the exams in this program. The lectures acted as a guide for what we needed to know so as students we knew we were responsible for that information no matter how we learned it. It took a lot of hours outside the classroom utilizing faculty, fellow PA/NP students, med students, 2nd year students, youtube, and books outside of the required/recommended books. Some of us attend the med student lectures or talks/seminars that are given on campus. We volunteered as much as we could at student run clinics to learn from med students and physicians. So there are plenty of resources for a person here to learn and pass their exams. As far as the SIM lab goes, the School of Nursing (SON) has recognized that problem and has invested in it's own building with it's own SIM lab so they are not at the mercy of the School of Medicine for time in lab. Also the schedule changes it is not just a 4-day a week program. It varies dependent on your classes and space availability in the School of Medicine (SOM). When I first started it was Monday-Friday 8AM-5PM, students complained how there wasn't enough time to study so the SON made it 4-days a week for the new cohort giving them longer weekends to study. One quarter we only went to school 3-days a week with an occasional Saturday class again this being dependent on classroom availability and us sharing space with the SOM. By the summer of 2017 the SON will have it's own building and it's own space, thus drastically changing the everyday life of a student. I have only seen improvement since starting this program and can see how the faculty work hard behind the scenes. They take student feedback seriously and will make changes for the next cohort. What people need to understand is that we are the only PA/NP program in the whole country. It's never been done before. The SON had to develop a curriculum that satisfies both accrediting entities for PA and NP education. As with any brand new curriculum there are going to be bumps in the road and some growing pains. It's not going to be perfect and one should not expect perfection. I can find students at any program that will complain about how things run. This is still a good program and they are taking strides to make it better. It will only get better. We are PA students expected to learn as much as medical students learn in two-years in one-year. That is a challenge for any program and it leaves a lot of responsibility on the students. This program as with any situation in life is what you make it. The SON provides plenty of opportunities for any student to learn and succeed. You just have to be proactive and seek them out.
  11. The lectures given don't necessarily represent the test you will take at the end of a module/block. However, it does present to you information you need to know and serves as a guide. The objectives also seem disconnected from the exams as well. This is how it seems and feels unorganized. However with that being said it is us as students to be responsible for that information. Many cohorts before this one figured out how to take the exams here and I can honestly tell you as a second-year student on clinical rotations the school has done an adequate job in preparing me for my clinical year. Information here comes in high volume and at high speed. There is an adjustment process when transitioning from undergrad to here. Even if you have graduated from a Master's program before, advanced medicine is a different kind of beast. As PA students we are expected to learn as much as medical students learn in 2-years compressed into one. I think any program would find that challenging. I have friends that have graduated from other programs and I can tell you people are going to complain no matter which program they are in. It is what you make it. As far as the SIM lab and technology go, that's true. We barely get to use that stuff becasue it is owned by the School of Medicine. However, the School of Nursing has recognized that problem and has invested in it's own building where the PA and NP students will have their own space with their own SIM lab. This building is scheduled to be completed the summer of 2017. I have only seen improvement in this program since I've started and I can assure you it's only going to get better.
  12. Nobody is keeping you here. If you are unhappy drop the from the program and take your negativity elsewhere because an attitude like this can spread through your cohort and will make everyone miserable. People start to only focus on the negative instead of the many positives here at UC Davis. 75% of your class passed that exam and most are doing well. The school made an adjustment for you and most likely will make adjustments for the next cohort to make it better. I agree with you that sometimes the lectures seem unorganized and yes, we don't get enough time in the SIM lab. So the question is what are you gonna do about it? Complain that everything sucks or come up with a solution? Spend some extra time in the library to work through information you don't understand. Maybe ask a 2nd-year student or faculty, or a med student for help. Why don't you talk to the 75% of the class that is doing well and ask how they are studying or preparing for exams? I've spent many long days in that library and at Med Ed trying to make sense of what was just presented to me. I've asked if I could rent out rooms on my own time in the SIM clinic on the second floor of Med Ed to simulate a clinical environment to practice assessments. I volunteered at the student run clinics to force myself into a clinical environment so I could learn there from med students and physicians. It took a little extra dedication and time, well no it took a whole lot of dedication and extra time but I took responsibility and took charge of my education here at Davis and anyone can do that too. It is what you make it.
  13. I am a current 2nd-year student in clinical rotations and I assure you this student is not representative of their cohort or my cohort. I can honestly tell you that as a second-year in clinical rotations the program has prepared me for my clinical experience. We all have our frustrations with the program and honestly you can find students in every program that will complain. I have friends that have graduated from various programs and they had some of the same complaints and frustrations as I did. At some point in PA school a student will realize that much of your education is on you. The school provides an outline through lectures and recommended books, but how you learn the information is entirely up to you. There are plenty of resources here to help any student succeed. Faculty, 2nd-year students, med students, optional talks/lectures/seminars, etc...It seems like this student would rather complain rather than find solutions to their learning deficiencies. The faculty at this school work hard for us students that I can say with 100% confidence. Especially our clinical rotations team. This is a good school and a good program. It's not perfect and it's going through some changes and of course with changes come some bumps in the road. Please don't let the rant of one student scare you from our program. For every student that complains I can find you two that will say the opposite.
  14. I am a current 2nd year student and from I hear that is true. I am not going to speak on the school's behalf and I don't know what adjustments were done for this cohort. If it is true then it looks like the school saw a deficiency made an adjustment to ensure students held their spot and were not negatively impacted academically. I can tell you form experience now that I am in clinical year the school has prepared us for our rotations. The faculty here work very hard for the students and will make adjustments when they can. I do not pretend to know the logistic of how to run a PA program but I do know the faculty respond to student feedback and make adjustments. I think what this person is missing is that as PA's in training we are expected to learn as much as med students learn in two-years compressed into one. I have friends that have graduated from various other programs who have had the same complaints I hear about our program. This program is what you make it and what you learn is up to you. The program does it's best to present what we need to know and we as students have to take responsibility for that information and learn it in any way we can. This isn't undergrad anymore, the information isn't going to be spoon fed to you in small doses. This isn't a Master's degree in business or a Master's degree in public health. This is advanced medicine and there is a ton of information that comes at you fast. I agree some I would even say many of the lectures seemed a bit unorganized, but I didn't use that as a cop out for not passing an exam. I know what I am supposed to learn and I took what I could from lecture, books, youtube, other students, faculty, and any other resource I could to ensure I learned. I took responsibility for my own education. I have my frustrations with this program, but it is one thing to just complain or be a steward of change for future students and cohorts so they can have it better than I did. Every year this program gets better and I truly believe it will be one of the top programs in the nation. I as a second year have tried my best to help the 1st-year students navigate the transition into this program. If any first-year student is struggling they also have us a resource. We've already survived first year and all of the things they are complaining about.
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