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  1. At the end of the day, any job is just a job. They all turn into jobs eventually. For most people, if they didn't have to work they wouldn't. At least in traditional medicine that is. I chose PA as a backup plan when I couldn't get into my in-state dental school. I chose it because it was a great situation regarding debt to income ratio (especially compared to the half a million dollars of debt I was staring down at my options beforehand), it was enough autonomy, the economy support the job at the moment and for the next 5 years minimum, and it's a rewarding and social career that I thought would let me flourish in. With that said, for the schooling a PA has to go through I definitely think they deserve half of what their physician counterpart makes. Probably not right out of school, but for sure with 5-8 years of experience. The ceiling is too low. The PAs you're referring to making 200-300K/year are in a very small minority, or they're working crazy hours. The salary definitely was a major factor in choosing the PA path though. It wasn't THE reason, but it wasn't insignificant by any stretch.
  2. You know...looking back at my short stint I definitely think PAs are underpaid based on the education they have to go through. It's a great debt to income ratio, but PAs deserve half of what their MD/DO counterpart makes IMO -- not a third.
  3. Similar position. Got into PA school this past cycle. Was one of the first few accepted to the school I ended up attending. I dropped after a month and am now going back for a computer science degree. I realized I loved anatomy and pharmacology, but I despised physiology. I also started to get extremely fearful of failing physiology, and possibly failing out due to one class. Things would just compound from there where I'd be in a significant amount of debt from a program I didn't even complete. I weighed all the pros and cons, including having invested the last 7 years into getting into PA school. So it was a big decision. In the end, it seemed like a lot of work for a third of the pay and autonomy of a physician. If I knew what I know now, I wish I had just done this path when I was in undergrad the first time around. It is what it is though.
  4. I actually disagree. A lot of schools prefer in-state applicants and actually accept primarily in-state applicants. I know UAB, South Alabama, LSU, Arkansas, Florida, FSU, Samford, Tennessee, and most Texas schools focus on in-state applicants far more than OOS. Most state schools in the Southeast prefer in-state applicants from my experience and talking to adcoms. Private schools and for-profit schools tend to be the ones that usually don't have a preference. I'm speaking behalf of Southeastern schools so your mileage may vary depending on what part of the country you're from. To answer OP on out-of-state suggestions I received out-of-state interviews for South University (Richmond campus), South College (all campuses), University of Tampa, Mississippi College, University of Arkansas, and PCOM in Atlanta. South Carolina and North Carolina schools are out-of-state friendly for the most part as well. I would have added most schools from those two states had I needed a second cycle.
  5. I'll echo what's already been said by @MT2PA. You're working with average to above average statistics GPA wise, and I don't even see a GRE score listed. My cGPA and sGPA were in the 3.4-3.5 range. I had around 1,200 hours at the time of application and 1,800 in the midst of my interviews. I had around 2,000 volunteer hours. I see you're from Idaho so you will probably want to keep most of your target schools within a drive-able distance, but I'd recommend applying to 20 schools. I applied to 19 schools. I got 8 interview invitations, and from those 8 interviews I got 1 acceptance, 5 waitlistings, 1 rejection, and 1 interview I decided to not even attend. You shouldn't be applying to any less than 15 schools, but I'd really aim towards that 20 number. It's better to be accepted your first cycle than have to sit out another entire year. One school I cannot recommend enough (and I am not attending this school but it was my #2 preference of all the interviews I went on) was South University (Richmond campus). The Richmond campus is in the nicest and most easily accessible area of every interview I went on. Most of the places you can live are walkable, there's a huge community built around the school where everything you need is within a mile radius, a Whole Foods is directly across the street, the program is under 100K for out-of-state students, and the majority of applicants who were at my interview date were out-of-state which reaffirms what I previously said. It's quite a ways away from where you live, but it was from where I live too. It's a January state date, so you could finish 6 months before most people.
  6. Very, very lucky. I was hoping my program was going to allow scrubs but it looks like I didn't luck out. I honestly don't understand for didactic. You should be able to wear whatever you want within reason.
  7. True. I'll probably email them next month after I get all my affairs in order with my program.
  8. I've got to budget to buy a lot of slacks and ties. Maybe an extra white button up or two.
  9. So I was fortunate to be accepted into my first choice program that I know I plan on attending. Do I need to email the other 7 programs that have me waitlisted to remove my name from the waitlist, or do I just keep my name on there in case some unforeseen issue were to arise?
  10. I just received an interview invitation as well. Unfortunately I'll be turning down my interview spot because I've already been accepted into my in-state program. Hopefully this helps one of you out!
  11. Some schools have group writing prompts where you have scenarios and your group has to figure out how to navigate it together. Some schools have individual writing prompts where you're given similar scenarios and you alone have to write how you'd handle it. Normally if it's only one questions is more ethical based than medically based. If there's multiple questions you normally have one ethical and one medical related question. I have no idea how Adventist does it, but I'd prepare for both. It's mostly drawing from your experience to be honest, so you can't really prepare.
  12. They anticipated receiving over 2,000 applications, with around 1,000 to 1,200 that actually met the requirements.
  13. Thank you! I really appreciate that! Yeah...their reasoning didn't make much sense to me either. Everything I put in my personal statement was focused around rural under-served areas so maybe that was why. I still think my PCE was more competitive than some of the applicants who only had scribing experience though that ended up being accepted.
  14. I figured I should update this thread today. Thus far I've received 7 interviews and 6 rejections without interview. Of those 7 interviews I have been waitlisted at four of them with two telling me that their reasoning was that my direct patient care experience was "too niche and specialized." Today I just received my first acceptance from my #1 choice. If this process has taught me anything it's that it doesn't make any sense. I had an in-state program that is in the developing stages with no clinical rotation sites to speak of yet reject me while I've had my #1 choice that's been a program for over 20 years accept me.
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