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  1. Are you guys set on UT? Honestly with the degree being in biomedical science with a concentration on pa studies, it bars one from some military/government pay back options from what I understand. Also, it's status is probationary, I know this can mean many different things. I know this generally isn't as dangerous as it sounds, but it could be, based on the probationary factor. Plus the application process is such a rollercoaster. For an October caspa deadline, it is not unreasonable to expect more informative updates before the next year's cycle opens! No one needs more stress than what the process already demands. Heck, I applied to Eastern Michigan, and within 2-3 months they gave me a personal phone call telling me that there were about 1200 applicants, and gave me a rejection and feedback about my application.
  2. Just got a rejection email this morning. The only other email I ever received from them was telling me to fill out the supplemental application back in August. They never asked for anything else. They never told me my prerequisite courses were accepted or rejected. The email claims that because of the volume of applicants, feedback is unavailable. There was also an attached letter (extremely general) advises to have a high GPA, great letters of recommendation, and no grammatical mistakes on the personal statement. Well you win some you lose some right?
  3. Well I learned something from a PA I had shadowed previously, Nurses have an extremely powerful union, and lobbying presence, one that they use to gain autonomy. This may be one factor that contributes to why the rules that govern them vs PAs are different. As a result many NP programs are switching to a 4 year doctorate program. (keep in mind this person was very biased against NPs not sure how true, or to what degree this actually is) Now If you are a nurse who has worked for 10 years, you have the means, and decide to go back to school to expand your career it makes sense either way; two years vs four years for a large jump in your career, it's going to come out in the wash. However, If you are young and just about to start school as an undergrad, why not just go MD or DO? It takes the same time as many of the changing NP programs, (not really sure about NP residency though) and as far as autonomy is concerned you won't have to worry about anyone's bad breath.
  4. Oops I read it again and I don't think I said it very well, I meant research with a professor in a lab as part of his student team. Like another friend of mine analyzes stress and metabolic levels in sea animals with a professor at my university, he subsequently gets published in the small print. If you are already doing this you have a leg up.
  5. I was a history Major in undergrad, made school a blast and really enjoyable. I still got into PA school with it, but I don't know if I would choose it if I could start again. It was something I was passionate about, and it instilled a true love for learning that I was able to take with me to my pre-requ classes. I agree with UGoLong, outside of the love for the discipline there is little you can do with it that is livable.
  6. This is very good advice, you should be twitchy eyed over your GPA especially one in the low 3s, you would be surprised how little the pre requ effect it in the overall picture. Also very good advice in casing a bigger net for schools regardless of weather or not you want to attend specific schools, It doesn't always work out that way. Heck I tailored my application to the public school in my state but still applied to 7 schools, and you know the the only one I didn't get into? You guessed it, it was my number 1 choice. To cut though the fat the main points are in bold I would like to add that you have other factors to consider, one is financial aid. I'm assuming its the same in other states but if its not I apologize in advance. Here is my story in a synapses. I went to undergrad for Law, and realized I hated it. The only other thing I was remotely interested in was health care. I studied abroad my senior year of undergrad, and because of that I had to wait for credits to translate to my transcript. In waiting I was out of the 6 month window of student loan deferment, I couldn't graduate because the credits weren't there yet. I had to pay the student loans even though my Japanese program finished in august, I was indicated to still be enrolled at my home university; It said the semester had ended in May. My loan repayment 6 month grace period was up in October. I had to work full time then with no degree as a mail man waiting for my credits to graduate. The Japanese school said it was my home university holding it up, like wise it was my home university blaming the Japanese institution for the delay in the grades. It was a mess. I worked full time as a mail man for a year and reflected on my future. I was 24. I decided to get my CNA certification after talking to a friend in health care and take some pre requ classes. I loved it and wanted to do more in field and he taught me about PA, as he was a PA. So I quit my job at the post office, and went back to school full time and worked as a CNA 3rd shift Part time. The catch is my mom begged me to go back to my other home university and finish my degree, which at this point only required me to apply for graduation. So I did to please her, as no one in my family had ever gone to college and that was very important to her; but I lost a federal grant that would have completely covered my tuition for my pre requs. SO DON'T GRADUATE UNTIL YOU FINISH THE PRE REQU CLASSES. Being pre law before I kept my GPA high, around a 3.56. I just finished my pre requs about 50 credit hours worth will all As and a couple of Bs. My over all GPA is now a 3.6 It hardly jumped. So don't over estimate what more classes can do to pad the GPA. You also need to research if you are going to want a good chance at getting into Med school, I Volunteered at a free clinic in my spare time for PA school. You can't blow off community service for HCE for PA you need both. For med school you need the research to take the place of the HCE and keep the community service as the common denominator. So many people I have talked to have said that they didn't get into PA school because they hadn't volunteered anywhere. I only know one person personally who has gotten into med school with no research, but he scored in the 99th percentile on the MCAT. I'm not doubting your intelligence, but this guy, we call him the monk because he just locks himself in his room and reads his textbooks cover to cover. He is not the typical applicant. You will constantly have Profs doubting your decision to go to PA school over med school if you choose that route. They will try to convince you that you are wasting your potential to "settle" for PA. I found this a little insulting to the profession, but I politely declined. Over all you need to shadow and become firm in you convictions to attend either. You might not know 100% right now but I you make up your mind from the beginning it will make it so much easier for either path you choose. I have been successful in my path to getting admission to PA school on my first cycle because I have done nothing but devote my life to the pursuit. I have made many sacrifices along the way, even at the expense of my personal life, as have almost everyone else who seriously decides to go in this direction. I also made sure I had all my research done, and took a lot of good advice from this forum. I'm 27 now and will matriculate in May. Most importantly be true to yourself, the friend that got me interested in the PA profession now regrets not going into Med school.
  7. I wrote something on this for another source, to give my perspective on the MMI, I can post it here or pm it to you; I don't mean it to sound overly harsh or critical, that's just the format for that forum. I'm just willing to post it or pm it, it might help. Also, I'm not trying to brag, more so just listing why I feel I'm qualified to talk about this. I did very well on the MMI, so much so that a school that only takes 18 students total, and had another interview date of 50 people, plus the interview date I was at of 50 people called me less than 24 hours after the MMI to offer me a spot, nearly crapped myself, because honestly my stats aren't that amazing. I can certainly tell you none of my other interviews went that well. Also I heard that LORs from a PA or Physician, a Boss, and a Proff are important, Its not that they actually read and pay attention to them in most cases, they know they are gonna write something good about you, it's just that they really want to see you are able to network in the big three aspects of your life. I also know that all of the schools I applied to here in the Midwest had LORs from those three sources as a recommendation or requirement. I know you have been out of school for a little while, but really try to get that academic LOR. If you got an A in a class most proffs are willing to write that for you. Best of luck!
  8. Every one feels this way for sure, after my first interview I couldn't even remember very well what the heck I even said and I was doubting myself throughout the whole thing! I was eventually accepted to that school. Also, analyze if you had other strong points in your application. Some schools use a point system, so you will get a base score on your pre-interview application, and a post interview score. Then those with the highest overall score get the acceptance. I was told by some one who does admissions that the number one thing most schools look for these days is will you succeed academically. I'm not saying g this is good or bad, and its probably why more and more people younger and younger with less and less HCE are being accepted with higher GPAs and higher GRE scores. (I'll try not to do repeats anymore) Anyway, after the first interview it gets much better.
  9. I don't know about the science quiz, but I had an essay question before one of my interviews. It was really nerve wracking, because it said grammar and spelling count. Usually my grammar is OK, but my spelling is terrible. I had to use very basic vocabulary to ensure I didn't make those mistakes. I even ended up having to add a carrot to insert a later thought into an old sentence. I also had to cross off half a sentence to rewrite it. I thought that hosed me, but actually I ended up getting into that school. The questions on the essay were along the lines of "what skills should a PA posses in their everyday role as part of a healthcare team? How does this relate to what you observed when shadowing." something like that What I read was that schools are just trying to make sure you didn't BS your way through the personal statement, and that you are capable of coherently recording your thoughts on paper.
  10. Couldn't agree more, I started off just googling PA interview questions. I was freaking out because I thought, OMG, there is so much they could ask me! However, I can say in all my interviews 95% of the questions were from the first 10 questions on any website for PA interviews. Tell us about yourself? Why at this time do you feel you are ready to undertake PA training? Why did you choose this school? Why should we choose you over any other candidate here today? these questions were on all my interviews so far. (except for my MMI) As for Mr. Rodican's book, It was very helpful in giving the stimulus needed in formulating my answers. The other 5% of the questions I was asked were behavioral, and word for word in this book! It won't tell you what to say exactly, but it will give you good examples of strong answers, and what elements make them strong. It will then guide you on how to use your own experiences to make your own strong answers. I think this book was the key to my interview successes.
  11. Just withdrew my acceptance, hope this makes someone on the wait list very happy.
  12. Yes it was extremely fast, I was surprised myself. I ended up getting the email at 9 o clock on Sunday night. I really enjoyed the MMI style Interview, I felt it was much less pressure than the other school's styes that I have interviewed at. I wouldn't get discouraged at all. As far as I can tell, if you feel the interview went well you have a good shot at acceptance. like you said it might just take a bit longer to find out.
  13. Hello! I hope this helps. When I was looking for shadowing experience, I was in a bit of a bind. I had no connections with health care professionals outside of my facility as a CNA. At this facility they only have RNs and a rounding MD. So then I turned to the clinic I volunteered at. At the clinic they employ a supervising MD, and two NPs no PAs. I asked around to friends and family with no luck. I looked to the hospitals in my area they said I could do shadow through a volunteer program where I had to fill out a very large application with an extensive health exam, pay for multiple background checks, and many other tedious things. This only resulted in a 4 hour shadowing opportunity with a random PA. I needed an opportunity where I could build a relationship with some one. I knew there had to be a better way. Finally, I was on my home state's PA website (Indiana Academy of PAs) and there was a section for pre-PA hopefuls, and a link to shadowing opportunities. I emailed the link, asking if there were any opportunities to shadow PAs in my area. They promptly sent me a spreadsheet of PAs who had told them they were willing to take students to shadow. I then went down the list sending out emails, and got a response from the first email I sent out! The PA I was able to shadow was so nice, and she loved to teach. She eventually wrote me a great letter of recommendation, I am very grateful to her, and the Indiana Academy of Physician Assistants for the opportunity. in short, look at your state's PA organization website, they might have a contact who can send you in the right direction for shadowing. Also, I know from experience that It might be a little discouraging to cold call offices and other places, I felt like I was burdening these busy professionals. I actually brought this up to the PA I shadowed. She explained it very well to me that most people in the profession love to teach and help others who are interested about the profession. She also explained that everyone who is a PA has been in the same boat, and most feel it's their duty to be able to help along the next generation. Keep that in mind when you feel worried you might be bothering some one! Good luck!
  14. Just received an acceptance email. Has anyone else heard anything? Good luck to all who are waiting.
  15. Thank you for the advice, I think I will finish out next two interviews, and then withdraw my applications at the other universities. I have dedicated a large portion of my life, money, and time to this endeavor so I want to make sure that I choose the school that Is absolutely the right fit for me. At the same time I feel the school I have been accepted to is a great fit. There is no need to take the spot of other hard working applicants, once I'm sure of the decision. I will finally be able to relax and try to figure out how to use this rare new free time before I get really really busy.
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