Jump to content

canada202

Members
  • Content Count

    19
  • Joined

  • Last visited

  • Days Won

    1

canada202 last won the day on January 27 2019

canada202 had the most liked content!

Community Reputation

30 Excellent

About canada202

  • Rank
    Member

Profile

  • Profession
    Physician Assistant

Recent Profile Visitors

431 profile views
  1. That is 1/3 what the physician owned family practice group that I work for pays. I have several RN friends who make only slightly less than that. Don’t devalue all the hard work it took to get your degree.
  2. I am paid entirely on RVUs. I work in a high acuity primary care / urgent care crossover. I see 22-24 pts per day 5 days per week. I average 1.64 RVU per patient. You can expect to average 1.3 - 1.7 per patient if you learn to correctly code and value your work. Let me know if I can help further.
  3. I wanted to provide an update and further encouragement to fellow PAs to properly value yourselves. I’m still seeing atrocious salary offers of 70-90k. I just finished my second year working as a PA. I work at a primary care practice in Florida (one of the notoriously low paying PA states) I made roughly $200,000 inclusive of bonuses and salary. This does not include 4% ($8,000) company 401k match or benefits (health, dental, etc) Previously I wrote “I work my butt off while at the office, but I only work 8-5 with an hour of work at home M-F. No call. No nights. No weekends.” This last year I have worked 9-5, I very rarely take any charting home (30-60mins once a week tops). Still no call, nights or weekends. I feel incredibly fortunate to have found employment I love, value, with great autonomy and compensation for my work. I see a lot of patients that are fairly complex geriatrics, but I love that. Being paid based off a wRVU system compensates me equitably for the quantity and complexity of patients that I see and I believe it is the best comp plan for PAs to maximize their value and compensation. To reiterate my initial message: I implore new graduates and even seasoned PA's. Know. Your. Worth. There is nothing special or unique about my employer. If they can afford to pay me this much and still reap a huge profit from my work, justimagine what employers at specialty practices are gaining from our labors. We are licensed medical providers that bring in 85-100% the value of aphysician based on the patient's insurance, yet I am seeing salary offers that are hardly better than RN's and have not changed much in the last 5 years. Know. Your. Worth
  4. I provided my absolute max hours so that is the WORST schedule I will ever have. Typical 9-430 without any hours at home. And like the other poster said. Very, very good benefits.
  5. I see 16-24 patients a day. I make this type of money because my company pays rVU based which allows for a very clear distinction between seeing xPatients * yComplexity = % of revenue for me and % for the company. I find it tremendously fair and would be a great negotiation point when discussing with employers. Who wouldn’t want an employee to be motivated to see more patients and work harder and bill correctly for the services they provide.
  6. Based off of updates from threads I follow on this forum, I have seen little-to-no change in salary offers that people are posting over the last few years. This is in no way meant to be anything other than informative and discussion producing, so please try and not attack. I just finished my first year at a primary care practice in Florida (one of the notoriously low paying PA states) I made $140,000 Next year I will make $180,000 I work my butt off while at the office, but I only work 8-5 with an hour of work at home M-F. No call. No nights. No weekends. Excellent benefits. I implore new graduates and even seasoned PA's. Know. Your. Worth. There is nothing special or unique about my employer. If they can afford to pay me this much and still reap a huge profit from my work, just imagine what employers at specialty practices are gaining from our labors. We are licensed medical providers that bring in 85-100% the value of a physician based on the patient's insurance, yet I am seeing salary offers that are hardly better than RN's and have not changed much in the last 5 years. Know. Your. Worth.
  7. Really well thought out opinions. -I won't ever be working rural @EMEDPA, so "standard" FM practice would be the plan. Based on my searches, the nearest DO EM residencies are miami/orlando which is 3 hours. There is one residency near me and it is internal med with 12 spots. - @ArmyVetDude, yes 2-3x more pay in either FM or EM. The docs in my practice clear 300-400k seeing 30 pts/day which is incredible IMO. BUT factoring in the ~$1mill in lost wages, tuition, etc over 6 years, money becomes less significant. - @HanSolo, the quick/auto answer is go for it, which PA friends/colleagues say. Once they think about it, you're right, I have a sweet gig that would be tough to improve upon. - @printer2100, this is probably the most significant reason why I chose PA in the first place. I love the flexibility of being able to drop everything and go start a career in another specialty or move to another state and fairly easily slide into a practice. As a FM doc, it's very different and requires building a practice. Being "stuck" in the whatever specialty I went to med school for is scary. - @anewconvert, the two docs I work closest with wrote me glowing recommendations for school and one of them who is a mentor to me has been telling me since the day I entered PA school that I should be a physician. Not because he thinks PAs/NPs are lesser, but rather that he knows I wouldn't have an issue getting through med school and that he believes residency is invaluable, so in his mind it's a no brainer. But you nailed it. The grass IS always greener... I could easily picture myself as a physician in 6 years working my butt off thinking why the $#@$ did I not keep the cushy PA lifestyle I had! - @Kaepora, this is basically what my fiance told me. I could be a good doctor, or I could work towards being the best PA I could be. Really, really leaning towards declining. Everyone is echoing my sentiments exactly.
  8. Thanks everyone for the input. But, I’m not single - I’m newly engaged and will be married within the next year. I was very fortunate to find a Primary Care group that I love and pays me by productivity and very (unusually) generously. There are NO residency options in the area so the 3 years of residency would absolutely be away from home. The possibility of future regret seems to be legitimately the only reason to do it. It’s as impossible to predict what regret I would feel in 5-10 years as it is to predict where the PA profession will be. Ugh, this is the toughest decision...
  9. Hey there, I know there are a bunch of other LECOM/APAP posts but anyways here we go! I was just accepted into next years APAP (PA>DO 3 year) program as an undeclared seat. I applied to the program almost a year ago when I was very frustrated, working at an urgent care and receiving little respect, autonomy, and poor pay. Now I work in Family Med, practice with near autonomy, and am compensated incredibly well given that it’s FM (150-180k). I love my job and for every 1 ignorant patient I have that “wants to see the real doctor”, I have 10 that refuse to see anyone but me. Me: 29yo, practicing 3 years, living in Florida, newly engaged, no kids. The APAP program consists of 2 years that must be done in Greensberg, Pennsylvania and year 3 of clinicals can be done near home. Then it’s 3+ years of residency that I guess could end up being anywhere. I would choose either Emergency Med or Family Practice Money: not really a factor. Between lost income, tuition, living expenses, I would look at a cool $1 million I estimate over 6 years. And if I remain in family med, the salary increase isn’t huge. EM would be significant though Scope: I work autonomously, but in a team setting, which I believe medicine should always be. Docs consult with docs, PAs with NPs; it’s team based but still autonomous. Of course in EM, the scope would be greatly increased (at least in Florida) Respect: some patients would stop being idiots about how they treat me, and I would have less push back from insurance, hospitals, etc. And administration would stop treating me as a “mid level” (a phrase i detest). Knowledge: I believe experience = knowledge, not schooling. I have learned much more in 3 years of practice than in 2 years of PA school. Residency would be very valuable, but I’m exposed to new things daily as it is and am always expanding my knowledge and skills. The decision to go or not is huge and it’s eating me up. I’m hoping some outside opinions from fellow PA’s might help. I have to give a decision in 2 weeks!
  10. Hi, 

    I was just accepted into the upcoming APAP class. Can I send you a message somehow? 

     

    Thanks!

    Matt

  11. Just called in a script for a pt to a local Walgreens and got the message "For providers, such as Doctors and Nurse Practitioners, press 2". either I haven't taken the time to listen to the message before or this is an oversight of this specific Walgreens. Either way I called in the script and then told the pharmacist that the message was very poorly worded and excluded PAs, so he should probably have it updated. We will see if that ever happens.
  12. Just to add a data point. I'm a new grad 2 weeks working and I'm getting 95 with 36/hr week and 8-10 pts/day Urgent Care. I second what the others said - with that sort of experience you're grossly underpaid. Forget a 7% raise, someone will give you a 50% raise with that experience if you search.
  13. Same exact experience from a TON of employers. One called me 3 weeks after an interview to ask if I was interested in interviewing for a completely different position. No mention of the one I had interviewed for already. I was forced to ask whether I should assume it had already been filled. Needless to say I avoided anything further with them.
  14. I've had the same issue and same misunderstanding by teamhealth multiple times. I'm in Florida btw.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Welcome to the Physician Assistant Forum! This website uses cookies to ensure you get the best experience on our website. Learn More