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  1. Hey ANEWU, Here's the current thread for the 20/21 application cycle: I interviewed 3 years ago, so I'm sure the process has changed, but we had two 30-minute interviews with two different faculty members. It was very laid back. Looks like they're doing interviews via Zoom now due to COVID-19. Good luck!
  2. If I recall correctly, there are PAs who train in OMT post-graduation. I guess we could have PAs and POs, where POs are less respected than PAs for like a century, then we could lobby to advocate for the equal treatment and post-graduate educational opportunities for PAs and POs alike. Wait, that sounds REALLY familiar. In all seriousness, I'm not much of a proponent for a title that can be used as an umbrella term. Provider of Allopathic Medicine is intrinsically inclusive of MDs and PAs since they are both 1) providers and 2) practice allopathic medicine. I can't think of another science-based profession that differentiates between masters and doctorate via their title. Yes, one is referred to as Dr. XX, but a masters level chemist, a doctorate level chemist, and a post-doctorate level chemist are all chemists. They (and who they work for) determine and are responsible for their every day duties, which are based on their level of education on experience. So in medicine, why is there not one title for someone who practices medicine? My assumption is because it breaks tradition and hurts the egos of physicians. There are also some physicians that argue that PAs do not practice medicine. People will kill me if I use the word physician, so lets make a completely different title. Let's say anyone who practices medicine is referred to as a medical practitioner. Let's also say we use the already established title hierarchy that is used in academia. We could have: Dr. XX, MD: medical practitioner who attended medical school and obtained a Doctor of Medicine and went on to complete a post-doctoral residency Dr. YY, MD: associate medical practitioner who attended medical school and obtained a Doctor of Medicine (did not complete a residency) Mr. ZZ, MSM (MS in Medicine): assistant medical practitioner who went to medical school and obtained a master's degree This 1) creates a clearer hierarchy of education and experience using a system that is already understood by most who attended college 2) puts non-matching doctorate-level providers (or providers who decided not to attend a residency) who have vital skills to work and 3) streamlines advancement of education for those with masters or those who did not complete a residency. But it still uses the word assistant. I could argue that assistant physician is perceived, at least by me, a lot differently than physician assistant. The first being a physician whose formal experiences/training is not at the maximum capacity of the profession. The latter being the physicians personal assistant. It would take time, but if physicians prefer PA education of NP education, they need to work with us to determine how our title fits in with theirs while making everyone content. We need to work together to make sure we are not stepping on any toes and we are being trained to a high standard. With a competitive training standard (which we arguably already have), it is completely rationale to expect a title that reflects that. Moreover, through school, I have never worked with a physician who thought "assistant" was fitting for our education/training level. [I understand there is some bias here, as physicians who precept PA students are more likely to be a proponent of PAs.] I have even worked with more than 1 physician, particularly during my EM rotation, who refused to refer to me as a "physician assistant student," but preferred PA student or medical student.
  3. I had a predicted score of 525 on RR and ended up with a 457 on the PANCE, so I was caught off guard a bit. Moreso because I scored above average on 7/8 EOREs, not as much because of my ROSH prediction. I think it's wise to assess your performance on your EOREs (if they are the PAEA exams), Packrat(s), Rosh/uWorld, and a practice exam. Don't just obsess over one of those scores, as we have no actual evidence to rely on any of them individually.
  4. I thought I read that they post results at 9AM, but I couldn't find anything about it when I searched more into it. I just need to know when to stop obsessively checking my e-mail.
  5. Have you considered swapping testing centers? I'm driving over an hour a way to take mine so that I don't have to wait.
  6. IIRC, we had a 3-week block for psych during didactic and were required to do 1 6-week rotation. Relatively, this isn't much less than what medical students get, but those who specialize in psychiatry have a whole residency. I'm genuinely concerned if you think that's enough to treat patients without appropriate supervision.
  7. I am graduating in a few months and will be working in an outpatient clinic with ample supervision by a doc and several PA/NPs for the first year or two. You might be able to get by in fast track in the ED with minimal supervision or even an urgent care seeing very simple cases, but you cannot do a specialty, particularly one that is barely focused on in PA school. The unfortunate fact is that PA school teaches us very little about psychiatry and psychopharmacology. I sincerely believe you need good mentorship to be successful. At least for one year. If not for you, do it for your patients.
  8. I am finishing up PA school this coming May, so I'm obviously not practicing, but I am in the job market. What I am finding is most people are suggesting to not take salaries under $100k unless you are going into FM or pediatrics. If you adjust your salary to account for the 0.8 FTE, you would be making $91k at a 1.0 FTE. I would expect urgent care or ED salaries to be in line with that or even higher, due to the pace you're expected to work out. You are billing the same as a physician. After training, you will bring this clinic money so long as you're decently productive (and I am sure they will make sure of that). I feel like you're selling yourself short if you accept this as is. I could be completely wrong, but I am noticing that private practices are paying more in specialties and lower in FM/Peds. I would think this UC would pay higher. I would consider the fact that it seems you have a niceish benefits package for a new grad. Do they match 401k? Would they be willing to consider productivity bonuses quarterly or yearly? How much time does the physician expect to take out of his/her week to mentor and train you initially? If this is above the standard of mentorship and you will gain a lot of skills, perhaps it's okay to consider working there for a year. Financially, I think any longer would be a disservice to you.
  9. I plan on taking a job in the outpatient psychiatry setting working full-time when I graduate. I'm concerned that I'll lose my general medical knowledge and skills, and I won't be able to switch out of psychiatry if I ever decide to in the future. I would love to spend 4 days in outpatient psychiatry and 1 day a week in an urgent care or walk-in clinic to stay up on my medicine, but I'm not convinced any practice would hire a new grad for 1-2 days/week. Does anyone else work part-time/prn in another setting to maintain their skills?
  10. No no, sorry. That's just how many applicants applied my year. I don't recall the number exactly, but I'm pretty sure it was around 120 applicants that were invited for an interview. This was 2 years ago, so I apologize if my numbers are completely wrong.
  11. Have you tried reaching out to your senior classmates? They may have some insight on whether the program requirement is a true requirement or something the program never really checks. I think you should try to save yourself some money, so long as your not sacrificing your education. You could always share with a classmate, too. My program has 8+ otoscopes/opthalmoscopes hung on the wall in our PE lab, so do take into account that I did have a way to practice and never needed my own.
  12. I reached out to my pre-med advisor. I'm not sure if your school assigns you one of those, but I would look into that. Most biology advisors should be familiar with the pre-med/pre-PA route, and might know some providers that are willing and able to let you shadow. Best of luck!
  13. It varies from year to year. I believe we had 1,000 applicants for approximately 40 seats the year I applied.
  14. Hey guys! Current 2nd year student here. I haven't talked directly to a faculty member or the director about this, but I heard from another student that they are doing interviews a tad later this year. Regarding probation: by the time the next cohort starts, the program should be off probation, so long as they do what is necessary by ARC-PA.
  15. You got this! You made all of the right steps. You're going to do amazing.
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