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  1. Okay guys, I just read the "Top 10 criticisms of Medical Care Practitioner" from the AAPA huddle. I agree. I'm an MCP believer now . However, I still think the NP's are going to basically steamroll over our profession. From a business standpoint, it's more logical to hire an independent NP vs PA/MCP (who require a supervising physician). One salary vs two. Kind of funny how the profession with the "more intensive training model" can't practice independently.
  2. May as well merge with the NPs at this point then with that mental approach. Like what is unique about our profession then? What is even the point of our profession? Why not just be part of one entity if we are literally the same as NP’s in your eyes? The way the PA profession is headed makes no logical sense. And I am worried.
  3. Initially yeah, but in time, people will start saying Physician Associate more. The point is that we retain our identity, which we have created over the past 50 years. Not start all over with MCP. The patients who know us, are aware of what we are capable of. Because we regularly diagnose & treat them. For many of them, we are even their PCP. What we care about are the people who don't know about the PA profession. First impression is important and we want to stop them from reading Physician "Assistant" because that is misleading. PA's are actually hot right now. Many young high school/college students are gearing towards in becoming a PA. It has become a viable career option. It was ranked top 3 jobs in the U.S. with a 36% job outlook over the next few years. If I had to guess, it's the elderly and rural population that mostly don't know what a "PA" is. Because it's still a fairly new, but growing profession. Physicians, NPs, and PAs are businesses at the end of the day. We will continuously fight for our own and our jobs. Obviously doctors don't like the title PA, because it has "Physician" in it. It's a threat to their profession. But that is the identity we have created over the last 50 years. That we are trained in the same education model as doctors and can aid Physicians by lessening their workload in multiple specialties. To meet the demand of doctor shortages. This is the key difference between us and the NP's. If we change to MCP, that is literally starting all over. And having to re-educate the public of who we are and what we are capable of, causing confusion along the process. That is not progressive change.
  4. You're the first person I have seen use the Walmart analogy. Does everyone else here also view or relate the word "Associate" to that? "Physician" Associate sounds way better than "Walmart" Associate... lol. We don't even work at Walmarts!
  5. I may have an unpopular opinion among the people on these forums or may be one of the silent ones, but I actually don't feel comfortable being known as a "Medical Care Practitioner." I feel like patients will just associate us with nurses and be asked many times, "So are you like a Nurse Practitioner?" I feel like the people in the United States are getting used to the term "PA". I like having "Physician" in my title, because it reminds me that I was taught medicine through the same model as Physicians, not nurses. Changing our names to "Physician Associate" may still not feel the best, but it is hands down better than "Assistant" in my opinion. The word "Associate" is defined as: a partner or colleague in business or at work. I feel okay being considered a partner or colleague of the fellow Physicians I work with. It makes sense to me. And we still retain the famous initials "PA" that is becoming more and more common knowledge in our society. TLDR: MCP would just confuse the heck out of people. And associate us with nurses.
  6. Woah that's possible?! I thought they were two different residencies!
  7. Hahaha I'm thinking I'll most likely go into Internal or Emergency medicine, but we'll see what happens. I'll be open to other specialties
  8. Man seeing these recent events and comments about our profession is furthering my interest to go back to medical school.. May as well do it while I’m in my 20s.
  9. Hey guys! I have a random question as a new grad PA What if you know what the diagnosis is when seeing a patient, but forgot the appropriate diagnostic workup/treatment? What's a professional way to say "I'll be right back" and quickly go look it up on UpToDate or something without sounding dumb?
  10. Hello, I recently made a post yesterday and got some great feedback. You can read more about my background and thoughts there. Feel free to give more insight. I am reading all comments and using it sort of as a guidance in making a serious life decision. You can check it here: However for the professional PA's who are currently working, my main question for you today is: Are you satisfied as being a PA? What are some things that Physicians do that you can't in your specialties? Give me concrete examples! A lot of people say autonomy, wide scope of practice, vertical mobility, etc. But what exactly are those day-to-day job differences or limitations that you have noticed in your specialty as a PA? Or do you feel like you have full autonomy? I am interested in either Internal Medicine (Hospitalist) or Emergency Medicine. But if it's pretty much 90% of the same job as Physicians, then I am not sure if 7 years of medical school is worth it for me. I know people usually recommend PA to MD mostly if you want to go into either surgery or a specialization of some sort. Can't wait to read your thoughts! Hopefully your comments and answers will give me and others in similar situations a strong resolution.
  11. Here are some more of my thoughts that I just private messaged someone: Thank you so much for replying, I really need guidance in my life. I am confused and don't know WHAT path is actually WORTH taking. I love medicine. I have grown super passionate about it. I also love academia. I watch a lot of medical school vlogs and wish I went through the rigorous schooling like they did. PA school felt like a joke to me. It was mainly memorizing buzz words, without understanding the "why's". Now, I know I can learn the why's using third party resources on my own - like sketchymedical, boards and beyond, pathoma, premade anki decks, etc. However, if I am going to do that, why not do it through medical school and get rewarded with prestige, money, and autonomy? But that does come with its cons - such as a losing lost income as a PA, family time, and basically life. For 7 years. I am interested in Internal medicine (hospitalist) or Emergency Medicine. What I want to really know is if there is a huge difference in autonomy, day-to-day job/tasks, etc. Because if it's 90% of the same job, then I am not sure if 7 years of medical school is worth it for me. I know people recommend PA to MD if you want to go into either surgery or a specialization of some sort. Basically, is 7 years of medical school worth it for me (I am single and 26 years old; I only need the MCAT to most likely get into this DO program in my home city; this way I can be with family and friends and not miss out on life events). It seems like a fun journey to me, something that I would look forward to. But there is this other easier, more convenient, and relaxing path - which is to remain as a PA and practice medicine. Earning a six figure salary. Living life. And also studying step 1 material with the resources I mentioned earlier. *sigh* Do you see my dilemma here. Like what is the right path for me - in terms of happiness, life, money, etc. If I were to redo my years of schooling, I would 100% choose medical school. But because I finished PA school and am interested in specialties that might not be that different as a doctor, is it worth it? Because I do realize I will have to go through numerous standardized examinations - MCAT, Step 1, Step 2 CK, Step 3 CS, and residency boards. Also the stress of interviews, applications (both initial and for residency), research papers, etc. Or will I always regret not going back for medical school?
  12. Thank you for the in-depth responses guys! I am reading them all and taking them into consideration. Can I ask for input on the day-to-day job differences as a PA vs MD/DO in internal or emergency medicine? (If there are any).
  13. Hahaha woah are you already on this path? Would you mind sharing your background and why you decided to go back for medical school after becoming a PA? What is your thought process? What are you benefiting? What are you sacrificing?
  14. Should I go back to Medical school AFTER becoming a PA?Specialties interested in: Internal or Emergency MedicineHere are my personal thoughts:I don't like to disparage my profession, but the way we learned medicine was through memorization of algorithms and buzz words. We were not taught the basics of science from a molecular level working upwards. We basically skipped step 1 and went straight into step 2 clinical knowledge. Doctors can see and understand things we cannot. And make connections that we cannot. I think this is what I am craving for. To be that kind of an “expert.” To understand medicine at that level and solve complex cases. I think the funny stereotypical word for this is “mental masturbation” or “intellectually stimulating” haha. I have the personality type of being the best in whatever I do. I feel limited in that sense as a PA.Financially, I would say I am kind of lucky. I wouldn’t normally tell this to people, but just to give you guys an idea of my situation. I actually don’t have any loans or interests at the moment after PA school. I paid out of pocket. But I was given some personal loans from close families and friends. I do have to pay them back eventually, but there is no time limit. And they would understand if I decide to pursue medical school. I would still have to take the MCAT, apply, do interviews, and then start the following year (this could take 2-3 years; here I could work as a full time PA and save money for medical school). The medical schools in my state are $100k for 4 years. Which is not bad compared to the crazy $200-400k type of other medical schools.For family life, wouldn’t it still be possible to have? Instead of working 8 hours a day, I would be studying or going to lectures. And then spend time with my family. Especially since I am not a typical pre-med student. I will be entering with a stronger background knowledge from PA school. However I do understand that the residency years will take a huge toll on my work/life balance for 3 years. (My mom or future wife would still have an income during the 4 years of medical school).But at the end of it all, won’t I truly be knowledgeable in a field of medicine, from basics to advanced. With the reward of earning a higher income and becoming a doctor (not what I’m going for, but still a benefit). I will be done around age 35 and can work 30 more years until 65. Won’t the money gain as a doctor in that time cover any expenses I had? And then be able to teach the next generation as well, confidently. I have a desire to teach as a professor at PA or MD/DO programs. And precept as well.This is my current thought process, BUT if you guys think that I am delusional or crazy, please call me out on it! Give me reasons why staying as a PA from age 26 will be better for my life in the long-run. And to not make the mistake of going to medical school for 7 years, with unnecessary stress. I want to hear both sides and arguments really well.How different is the autonomy in internal or emergency medicine between PA and MD/DO? Can I learn step 1 on my own while working as a PA, and be just as knowledgeable and happy? Or is the in-depth training of medical schools and residencies unmatched? And no amount of clinical experience as a PA can ever replace that? (I have my own thoughts of course since I have done clinical rotations, I just want to hear from what you guys think). ***Here are some more of my thoughts that I just private messaged someone:*** Thank you so much for replying, I really need guidance in my life. I am confused and don't know WHAT path is actually WORTH taking. I love medicine. I have grown super passionate about it. I also love academia. I watch a lot of medical school vlogs and wish I went through the rigorous schooling like they did. PA school felt like a joke to me. It was mainly memorizing buzz words, without understanding the "why's". Now, I know I can learn the why's using third party resources on my own - like sketchymedical, boards and beyond, pathoma, premade anki decks, etc. However, if I am going to do that, why not do it through medical school and get rewarded with prestige, money, and autonomy? But that does come with its cons - such as a losing lost income as a PA, family time, and basically life. For 7 years. I am interested in Internal medicine (hospitalist) or Emergency Medicine. What I want to really know is if there is a huge difference in autonomy, day-to-day job/tasks, etc. Because if it's 90% of the same job, then I am not sure if 7 years of medical school is worth it for me. I know people recommend PA to MD if you want to go into either surgery or a specialization of some sort. Basically, is 7 years of medical school worth it for me (I am single and 26 years old; I only need the MCAT to most likely get into this DO program in my home city; this way I can be with family and friends and not miss out on life events). It seems like a fun journey to me, something that I would look forward to. But there is this other easier, more convenient, and relaxing path - which is to remain as a PA and practice medicine. Earning a six figure salary. Living life. And also studying step 1 material with the resources I mentioned earlier. *sigh* Do you see my dilemma here. Like what is the right path for me - in terms of happiness, life, money, etc. If I were to redo my years of schooling, I would 100% choose medical school. But because I finished PA school and am interested in specialties that might not be that different as a doctor, is it worth it? Because I do realize I will have to go through numerous standardized examinations - MCAT, Step 1, Step 2 CK, Step 3 CS, and residency boards. Also the stress of interviews, applications (both initial and for residency), research papers, etc. Or will I always regret not going back for medical school?
  15. Hello everyone! My interview is this week, and I wanted to ask: How were the interviews? Is it an individual interview, group interview, or an MMI? How long were they? And any other advice you can give for the entire interview day!
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