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  1. A third time applicant should realistically have nearly 6000 hrs of HCE. While yes, being promoted is wonderful, it may not have been in line with your goal of applying to PA school. You also should have been taking many more courses the last 3 cycles to improve your GPA. I'm not sure statistics is worth your time unless it's a prereq for schools you want to apply to. You would be much better served by science courses that will raise your sGPA. Make sure you are applying to schools where you'd be competitive. Low HCE and lower GPA is not going to stand out at programs that get 2000 applicants and they interview the ones with 3.7 GPAs. You also technically haven't gotten interviews - so you're either not applying to the right schools OR you need to improve your statement and/or LORs. Frankly there is a lot of room for improvement in your app, however it's not hopeless. If you put the time and effort into getting back into a PCE job and taking courses, it's not out of the realm of possibilities. Perhaps it would be in your interest to take a year off applying, use that money for courses, and then apply next year with a better application.
  2. School ranking shouldn't play a factor (because they are meaningless). You otherwise make a good case for RF. That said, you should actually reach out and find out if you can do rotations in NYC from RF before using that as your compromise - you may not be able to. Doing rotations outside of your program's area is not as easy as saying 'I'll do rotations in place X, Y, and Z'. Not every program has rotations across the country, some will limit the # of rotations you can find on your own, and then you're on the hook for finding your own NYC rotations. Do you have connections in NYC to help you get those? I'll add, too, that while you can find jobs anywhere regardless of the school you go to, it is arguably easier to find (and get!) jobs where you have done the bulk of your rotations. I'm not trying to dissuade you from RF, a lower price tag and a well organized curriculum mean a lot, just make sure you think through everything before you make your decision.
  3. But if they have application due dates of Sept/Oct/Nov and all the other applicants applied in April/May/June when the cycle opens you will be at a significant disadvantage. Not only will you be applying late in the cycle but will also have outstanding courses and average stats. Nothing compelling to make a program favor you over someone who has already applied and potentially even already interviewed by the time your app is in. Waiting until 2019 would likely increase your chances purely by having all pre-reqs completed and being able to apply early in the cycle, especially with nothing particularly unique about your application (based on what's stated here).
  4. Just because FL has 11 programs doesn't mean they are all good programs (good fit, good PANCE rates, good rotations...however you want to define good). You have to do what's right for you. Prioritize appropriately.
  5. You need to do more research into the 'work life balance' and 'lifestyle' that you perceive PAs to have. It's a myth. Frankly it would take you years to decades to obtain the level of autonomy as a PA that you think you can get by 'dedicating yourself and being confident in your skills'. And even then there is never a guarantee or it requires you to work in very rural areas in specific fields. Hard work and confidence just aren't enough for certain fields. Go to med school. You say you wonder if you went to PA school would you regret not becoming an MD but you don't say that by going to med school you might regret not becoming a PA. Go to med school.
  6. Feels too dishonest for me. If you give a patient the wrong medication you don't just twiddle your thumbs and see what happens or wait for them to react; you let someone know of the mistake ASAP. Obviously this isn't life or death but the underlying principles are present. Own your situation.
  7. Unpopular opinion: the onus for knowing you didn't meet the requirements was on you from the beginning. Don't go blaming the program. That said, maybe because you did get interviewed you're fine. Perhaps the reviewing they are doing currently is to make sure those that have courses in progress will have them completed in time. If it were me I'd contact the program first asking for clarification. IF they are going to reject you, better to find out now so you can make plans for the other program. Time to be an adult and do the right thing even it may not be what you want.
  8. After 3 cycles I would expect you to have closer to 6000 HCE hours (patient transporter doesn't count, sorry, and a lot of schools don't count pharm tech, either). Many want paid hours so your volunteer hours are just volunteer hours. There is no glaring objection to your app but after 3 cycles I would have expected you to continue earning HCE/PCE hours as well as taking classes to raise the GPA . GRE is fine, frankly that's not what's keeping you from getting interviews. Check matriculating student stats to find programs where you might be competitive but continually reapplying with limited improvements each cycle is not going to get the job done.
  9. While those schools may accept your HCE/PCE type, you are not overwhelmingly competitive for them and as such it may be a waste of money (some, not necessarily all listed). Check matriculating student stats to narrow your list down to schools where your GPA stands a fighting chance.
  10. Frankly if your preceptors are being nice and understanding - then they are nice and understanding! I was thrown into day one of my ER rotation and sent to see pts in the first 5 minutes. Each attending wants their presentations different, their notes different, etc. One would make me restart my presentation multiple times until I got it they way he wanted. It was a lot of trial and error but by the end of it I was better than when I started and that's what it's about. You only get better by being pushed to get better. Get the feedback. Ask questions. Ask them not to go too easy on you. Clinical year is for learning and growing your skills; no one expects you to be perfect. If we knew everything after didactic we wouldn't need clinical year.
  11. I'll add, too, that if you got an interview, your app was good enough to get in the door. Work on interview skills. A good general rule is to check the matriculating applicant stats. Do the schools have average GPAs of 3.8? If yes, then you need to up your GPA. Do they have an avg of 10,000 PCE hours? Then work on your hours. Your app is what I would consider 'on the bubble'. No one spot needs specific attention but it's also not a shoe-in; it will really come down to who you are up against that cycle.
  12. I'm going to renew my lab license one last time...just in case. Not using it during school and not planning to use it after but if it takes a while to get hired/licensed/start a PA job I have it to fall back on if necessary. If it isn't cost prohibitive might be worth it in case you find yourself needing some spending money before real life as a PA kicks in.
  13. OP you've got an uphill battle. Unfortunately, for all intents and purposes, you might want to approach your HCE/PCE with a little less confidence. Direct patient 'contact' is not the same as being in charge of a patient's care and treatment. You will be hard pressed to find a school that considers your ED registration gig PCE. You might even have a hard sell with film assistant. They certainly might count as HCE but in the scheme of PA school applicants, PCE is where it counts. Working near and next to PAs and MDs can certainly be valuable but you can't count that as shadowing. The bottom line is there is no magic bullet to getting into PA school. Students that get in have good GPAs, good GRE scores, years of PCE, etc etc. Obviously there are exceptions to every 'rule' and as you've already found each program is different in how they approach evaluating candidates. But generally the advice you are looking for is: take more classes and get A's. Get more and better HCE/PCE. Volunteer. Shadow. Write a good personal statement. Have good references. There isn't a magic piece of advice. We aren't hiding a secret password to get your app looked at. Apply smartly and broadly and with the best application you can muster. There's no trick, just good old fashioned hard work to be done. The hard truth is that not everyone who wants to be a PA can get into PA school.
  14. If the GRE is the strongest point of your app (including HCE, etc) you're going to have a rough go of it. As others have said a 3.4ish is not disqualifyingly low - but the way to compensate for that is a lot of high quality HCE/PCE. In general adcoms don't look at a low GPA and go 'oh but the GRE is high so no worries'. GRE is one of the least persuasive factors when considering applicants.
  15. You're young. Do the capstone and come back and apply (schools won't do online interviews). Even if you have to come back and work in healthcare for awhile before applying, it'll be worth it in the end. Frankly I think applying at the age of 19/20 would put you at a disadvantage