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  1. First, a program can, and should, advertise what they want to get across as a program. There is nothing disingenuous about saying shadowing is not required, but may make you a more competitive applicant. If a school receives 2500 applications, and has room to seat 60 students (<2.5% acceptance rate), they need things to differentiate the applicants. Say I have two identical candidates. They both have a 3.6 overall GPA, a 3.4 science GPA, a 3.5 prerequisite GPA, a 310 GRE, and 2900 HCE. Candidate one has 400 hours of volunteering and 50 hours of shadowing, candidate 2 has none of these. Given all other factors are the same (race, gender, age, quality of undergraduate institution, LORs, etc.) the volunteer hours and shadowing would give a competitive edge to that candidate. (not required, but certainly beneficial). Now lets look at the scenario you don't take into account. You have two more candidates. One has a 3.9 GPA, a 85th percentile GRE, and 4700 PCE. They also have minimal or no volunteering and shadowing (not required). On paper they are an ideal candidate and would likely be accepted to many programs (despite not having things to enhance their application) They are in competition with an individual who has 3.2 GPA and a 50th percentile GRE who has 1000 hours of PCE. This person writes an amazing personal statement and puts significant effort into their supplemental application. They have shadowed 6 PAs for almost 300 hours and have 500 hours of volunteerism. They may come from an underserved population who did not have the same opportunities for success. The adcom now has objective data to use in favor of accepting this applicant (not required, but definitely enhanced the application. Nothing disingenuous at all. This is not misleading at all. We are just not out to fill our classes with cookie-cutter, newly graduated, high GPA/GRE/HCE clones.
  2. I assume you signed a contract with the Navy for three years of commissioned service. Unlike in the civilian world, you made a commitment to the US Government, and they can very well hold you to it. Should you not show up for training/service, you will be considered AWOL/a deserter. Warrants for your arrest can be issued, although not always pursued. Eventually, you could end up with a bad faith discharge. Either way, you will owe all money back immediately, and they can dock any civilian paycheck. Sadly, you also took this benefit away from someone else, who hopefully would have kept their commitment.
  3. "Within five (5) calendar days of enrollment at a PA program to which I have been admitted, I must notify all other designated programs for which my application is still under consideration that I no longer wish to be considered for admission to their program." She signed the above statement as part of her application and risks being permanently banned from CASPA for violations. Programs should be following this, or risk losing their ability to utilize CASPA. Why does she think she will do better in a different program? Provisional accreditation is a fully accredited program and is probably working harder than established programs to ensure a good education and not losing students as they have multiple ARC-PA visits and reports due during this process. There is also a legal requirement to provide ALL transcripts of previous colleges or universities to any place you enroll. She would have to tell her new program about her current program and provide transcripts. If they found out she did not tell them, that would be grounds for immediate dismissal for lying on an application. There is a very clear question on the application that asks "Have you ever previously been enrolled as a student in a Physician Assistant program, Medical School (including foreign), or any health profession, including but not limited to DO, Dentistry, Physical Therapy, Occupational Therapy, Chiropractic, Podiatry, etc.?" She would have answered no when she originally applied, but that would no longer be the case.
  4. This is actually no longer possible unless you are willing to violate the CASPA Honor Statement and potentially be out of both programs and not be allowed to utilize CASPA in the future. You signed this statement: "Within five (5) calendar days of enrollment at a PA program to which I have been admitted, I must notify all other designated programs for which my application is still under consideration that I no longer wish to be considered for admission to their program."
  5. Just remember that you all signed this statement in CASPA: "Within five (5) calendar days of enrollment at a PA program to which I have been admitted, I must notify all other designated programs for which my application is still under consideration that I no longer wish to be considered for admission to their program." If you do not, you can be removed from both programs and not be able to ever apply through CASPA again.
  6. Comments from IPAP Graduates. How do you feel about your alma mater?
  7. If you really could not get labs within a day or two, use agents that don't require renal dosing and cover common pathogens causing sinusitis, perhaps doxy or clinda? This is your responsibility as a provider.
  8. An e-mail went out today assuring those on the wait list are being looked at and that they have offered seats to some of them.
  9. teenyfish. Call the program. They offer one on one visits.
  10. The next open house is April 9th according to their Facebook page. https://m.facebook.com/Bryant-University-Physician-Assistant-Program-574629355990510/?ref=bookmarks
  11. Sazerac, the people who are waitlisted without an interview are waitlisted for an interview. You were already interviewed and are on a waitlist for acceptance. You are not in the same position.
  12. I guess my question would be; what if your found out that you were next on the waiting list for your dream school, and someone took that seat and left several days after starting and you did not get in there or elsewhere. PA school applications are extremely competitive and schools receive 100's to 1000s of applications. By your actions, and the domino effect, you could eliminate several people from being accepted. If school B is really your dream school, contact school A and tell them that you are giving up your seat in hopes of acceptance elsewhere. That, or going to school A and sticking it our are the only fair options.
  13. @amdempsey, thanks for the update! How is your experience so far?
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