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  1. I sent them the following: This morning, on WCBS in New York, Wall Street Journal reporter Joe Connelly said that “Nurse Practitioners want to be able to treat patients without supervision from a doctor in more states. Nurse Practitioners have more training than Physician Assistants, whose roles are also growing.” As a physician assistant I wanted to inform you this statement is inaccurate. The typical nurse practitioner master's degree has 35 credit hours of master's collegiate level courses and 500 hours of clinical exposure. The typical physician assistant master's degree has over 60 master's level collegiate courses with over 1000 hours of clinical exposure. Many NP schools also have completely online programs. As for the doctorate of nurse practitioner, this is optional and has no reflection of licensure at this time. Respectfully, Sean Kramer, MSHS, PA-C
  2. Usually don't wear lab coat (emergency). At least three pens, stethoscope, trauma shears, smart phone (with epocrates). If I think of it before the shift it is nice to have: pocket eye chart, bandages, tongue depressors, EMRA antibiotic guide, PALS insert. Got rid of these: reflex hammer (you can use your hand or steth), pen light (use otoscope wall mounts, hopefully they are working...), all pocket books (except EMRA)
  3. Kris, Thank you for your post. The shadowing hours will just need to be completed by matriculation. You do not have to be concerned about this in your situation. You will not have to send any more information to the program. For shadowing, you can either use the Lake Erie College form or any other signed documents for proof. The form is nice for the PA you are shadowing because they will not have to type up a specific letter. You can pre-fill most of the information and they just need to sign and enter the hours. We updated the requirements to clear up any confusion. It is available on the web page. Thank you!
  4. Working emergency at multiple ED's in Cleveland area I can give you some ranges: Hourly: $55-75 (one group has $60 base with RVU bonus) CME: $2000-$2500 PTO: 12-20 days 401k: 3% Match Benefits: Life 1x, Health Insurance (employer covers 50-80% premium for family), Long Term Disability, Short term disability (optional extra premium) Autonomy: Almost complete autonomy to micromanaging Hours: Most are days, some places have night rotating coverage Hope this helps!
  5. All, I had a question in regards to interviews. So I could fairly respond about this to everyone, I am posting it on the forum. If you are granted an interview you will be notified. Upon acceptance of the interview you will be sent a packet that outlines your schedule of events for the day. There will be a medical terminology test out. I can not give any more details at this time. Thank you,
  6. All, I had a question in regards to interviews. So I could fairly respond about this to everyone, I am posting it on the forum. If you are granted an interview you will be notified. Upon acceptance of the interview you will be sent a packet that outlines your schedule of events for the day. There will be a medical terminology test out. I can not give any more details at this time. Thank you,
  7. Wutthechris, Thank you for your input. I disagree with the sentiment that shadowing for individuals with healthcare experience is a terrible requirement and makes no sense. For Lake Erie College, we require 250 hours of shadowing or healthcare experience. 50 hours need to be shadowing a licensed PA. So someone with previous experience only needs to shadow a PA for 50 hours. Although he or she may work with PA's or see what they do, it is an opportunity to walk by their shoes and see everything they do. It is also a chance to ask them questions and see different specialties. I think most people considering the profession would think it wise to evaluate what they are actually getting themselves into. I might add that individuals making statements like this comes across in a confrontational way. It suggests that one thinks they know better. As someone on admissions committee I see this as a red flag. With this type of thinking one would also assume he or she knows everything after graduating PA school. I believe most of us know that is a dangerous assumption. I do not think 50 hours is a ridiculous commitment. If a potential student refuses to do this they are free to apply elsewhere. Respectfully,
  8. Oneal, We are marketed as physician extenders. We are extending coverage to areas physicians alone cannot handle. Our practice is based on the supervision of a physician, in whatever capacity that may be. I see no problem as labeling us as physician extenders. Respectfully,
  9. mbalaban, Thank you for finding the discrepancy. It was worded poorly in the context of someone having no prior healthcare experience they could shadow for all of their 250 hours. I will touch that up. Just to confirm, we require is 250 hours of healthcare experience or shadowing, 50 hours of which must be shadowing a PA. The 50 hours of shadowing must be documented. Thank you!
  10. mbalaban, Thank you for your response. The 250 hours is shadowing or healthcare experience. 50 hours of this specifically needs to be shadowing a PA. You would only need to shadow a PA for 50 hours with your experience. Thank you,
  11. Steve, Thank you for your response. I agree that 4000 hours is a very high benchmark for healthcare experience. This requirement is complicated in many ways. I think it would be wonderful to expect everyone to have 4000 hours of health care experience, but that is not always realistic. I agree that this experience is very valuable and would make you more likely to succeed as a PA. However, as healthcare extenders we are trying to fill a need and the majority of applicants do not have that experience. The question you need to ask is whether it is 100% necessary. I am confident that given we have students with great potential we can fully prepare them to be great PA's no matter what their experience is. I know I can speak for myself. I went back to PA school as a career change with minimal healthcare experience. Dedicating yourself to the didactic phase, making the most of clinicals, good teachers, and finding an appropriate job after school will set you up for success. It is also important to note that despite graduating from PA school it does not mean a PA is completely prepared to practice on their own. You will find out the longer you do this you will find the less you know. Actually practicing and not just going through clinicals forces you to know the medicine at a completely different level. And this is no matter what your background is. As for your school's requirement it only benefits them. A student with 4000 hours tells me two things. They are motivated and that they have a base to work with. Essentially, you are making their job easier. It is pretty easy to teach a strongly motivated, experienced person. As a new program, I do not think it would be reasonable to expect students to have this. As for getting students up to speed, it was not long ago I sat in their shoes. I graduated in 2009 with little previous experience and know what it takes. We are making the format very logical, organized, and opportunities to identify any deficiencies. We are implementing early clinical opportunities during the didactic phase so students will actually get to see what they are learning in action. Problem based learning will be used right before clinicals for 10 weeks for students to prepare. They will go through case scenarios and it will benefit them in two ways. It will help them get more familiar with the complete evaluation process and identify any deficiencies in learning. Students will also need to pass a summative exam to move on to clinicals. These students will be extremely prepared for day 1 of clinicals. I appreciate your thoughts. Thank you for your time. Respectfully,
  12. Hello, my name is Sean Kramer and I am the academic coordinator for a new PA program. I am excited to announce that Lake Erie College will matriculate its first group of students May 2014. Admissions are currently open and on CASPA. Lake Erie College Physician Assistant Program www.lec.edu/pa Lake Erie College will award a masters of physician assistant sciences in an innovative, comprehensive 27 month program. We have an affiliation agreement with University Hospitals in Cleveland (#18 ranked US hospital by US News and World Reports). The program will feature early clinical experiences, problem based learning, module based format, student faculty ratio better than 8:1, and many other great opportunities. Below is a list of admission requirements. The deadline for all information to be verified (by CASPA) is December 1st, 2013. I would highly suggest submitting before October 15th as it may take 4-6 weeks to verify. Degree Requirements Prior to Admission A baccalaureate degree from a regionally accredited institution with a 3.2 GPA on a 4.0 scale is required for admissions. All required pre-requisite courses must be "B” or better with the exception of Organic Chemistry which must be "C”or better. No grade of "B-" or "C-" will be accepted. Academic Course Pre-Requisites Should be completed within last 7 years: Human Anatomy & Physiology with lab (2 courses) Microbiology with lab (1 course) Genetics with lab (1 course) General Chemistry I and II with labs (1 course each) Organic Chemistry with lab (1 course) Biology I and II with labs (1 course each) Statistics (1 course) Note: Preference given to students with advanced statistics, biostatistics or health-related statistics courses [*]Psychology (1 course) No Time Limit: English to include communication or speech (2 courses) College Algebra (1 course) Tested out during interviews: Medical Terminology (course recommended) Graduate Record Examination (GRE) GRE in last 5 years – no minimum score requirement Students whose first language is not English must achieve: TOEFL: The current LEC graduate degree minimum required is a paper score of 600, a computer score of 250, or an internet score of 100. Healthcare Experience Requirement Applicants are required to complete a minimum of 250 hours observing or participating in the delivery of healthcare in a clinical environment. At least 50 of the 250 hours must be from direct shadowing of a licensed Physician Assistant. The Lake Erie College PA Program is not accredited at this time, but has entered the process to receive accreditation through Accreditation Review Commission for Physician Assistants, Higher Learning Commission, and Ohio Board of Regents. Check out our website for more information, http://www.lec.edu/pa. If anyone has a question regarding the program or profession let me know!
  13. Hello, my name is Sean Kramer and I am the academic coordinator for a new PA program that will matriculate its first group of students May 2014. Admissions are currently open and on CASPA. Lake Erie College Physician Assistant Program www.lec.edu/pa Lake Erie College will award a masters of physician assistant sciences in an innovative, comprehensive 27 month program. We have an affiliation agreement with University Hospitals in Cleveland (#18 ranked hospital in the United States). The program will feature early clinical experiences, problem based learning, module based format, student faculty ratio better than 8:1. Below is a list of admission requirements. The deadline for all information to be verified (by CASPA) is December 1st, 2013. I would highly suggest submitting before October 15th as it may take 4-6 weeks to verify. Below is a list of admission requirements. Degree Requirements Prior to Admission A baccalaureate degree from a regionally accredited institution with a 3.2 GPA on a 4.0 scale is required for admissions. All required pre-requisite courses must be "B” or better with the exception of Organic Chemistry which must be "C”or better. No grade of "B-" or "C-" will be accepted. Academic Course Pre-Requisites Should be completed within last 7 years: Human Anatomy & Physiology with lab (2 courses) Microbiology with lab (1 course) Genetics with lab (1 course) General Chemistry I and II with labs (1 course each) Organic Chemistry with lab (1 course) Biology I and II with labs (1 course each) Statistics (1 course) Note: Preference given to students with advanced statistics, biostatistics or health-related statistics courses [*]Psychology (1 course) No Time Limit: English to include communication or speech (2 courses) College Algebra (1 course) Tested out during interviews: Medical Terminology (course recommended) Graduate Record Examination (GRE) GRE in last 5 years – no minimum score requirement Students whose first language is not English must achieve: TOEFL: The current LEC graduate degree minimum required is a paper score of 600, a computer score of 250, or an internet score of 100. Healthcare Experience Requirement Applicants are required to complete a minimum of 250 hours observing or participating in the delivery of healthcare in a clinical environment. At least 50 of the 250 hours must be from direct shadowing of a licensed Physician Assistant. The Lake Erie College PA Program is not accredited at this time, but has entered the process to receive accreditation through Accreditation Review Commission for Physician Assistants, Higher Learning Commission, and Ohio Board of Regents. Check out our website for more information, http://www.lec.edu/pa. If anyone has a question regarding the program or profession let me know!
  14. Lake Erie College Painesville, Ohio www.lec.edu/pa First class will matriculate May 2014. We have an affiliation agreement with University Hospitals in Cleveland (#18 ranked hospital in the United States). The program will feature early clinical experiences, problem based learning, module based format, student faculty ratio better than 8:1. Degree Requirements Prior to Admission A baccalaureate degree from a regionally accredited institution with a 3.2 GPA on a 4.0 scale is required for admissions. All required pre-requisite courses must be "B” or better with the exception of Organic Chemistry which must be "C”or better. No grade of "B-" or "C-" will be accepted. Academic Course Pre-Requisites Should be completed within last 7 years: Human Anatomy & Physiology with lab (2 courses) Microbiology with lab (1 course) Genetics with lab (1 course) General Chemistry I and II with labs (1 course each) Organic Chemistry with lab (1 course) Biology I and II with labs (1 course each) Statistics (1 course) Note: Preference given to students with advanced statistics, biostatistics or health-related statistics courses [*]Psychology (1 course) No Time Limit: English to include communication or speech (2 courses) College Algebra (1 course) Tested out during interviews: Medical Terminology (course recommended) Graduate Record Examination (GRE) GRE in last 5 years – no minimum score requirement Students whose first language is not English must achieve: TOEFL: The current LEC graduate degree minimum required is a paper score of 600, a computer score of 250, or an internet score of 100. Healthcare Experience Requirement Applicants are required to complete a minimum of 250 hours observing or participating in the delivery of healthcare in a clinical environment. At least 50 of the 250 hours must be from direct shadowing of a licensed Physician Assistant.
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