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  1. 23 points
    ...No one knows. You're receiving moderately-educated guesses at best, and wild shots in the dark from internet strangers at worst. Even an adcom member can't give you a 100% reliable "chance" because each school is different. Your experiences, personal statement, school list, timing, and "fit" all play a role. Even then, adcoms make surprising decisions. It's not uncommon to be accepted to reach programs and rejected from "safety" schools. Instead of risking false confidence or misplaced defeat, ask yourself these questions instead: Are my GPAs, both science and cumulative, competitive compared to this school's accepted student profile? If not, is the reason compellingly discussed in my personal statement? Does my transcript show that I have grasped the fundamental knowledge to succeed with intense, graduate-level medical science coursework? If there are weak areas of knowledge on my transcript, have I put in the work to turn those weaknesses into strengths? Do I meet all the prerequisite requirements for each school on my list? If I have a questionable course, have I asked for clarification from the schools that require it? Is my PCE (hours and type) competitive compared to this school's accepted student profiles? If my GPAs are below the accepted average, does my PCE surpass the average? If my PCE is below the accepted average, does my GPA surpass it? Have I spent time making sure my experience descriptions are comprehensive and accurately convey what I've learned? Have I scored at least 300 on the GRE (if I'm choosing to take it)? Do my other activities show deeper layers of my personality and interests? Have I taken on increasing responsibility as I've grown? If I've stated an interest in a specific area (for example, underserved or rural care), do my experiences show my passion for that area is genuine? Have at least three people agreed to write me an excellent letter? Do my references meet each school's requirements? Does my personal narrative have an introduction that grabs the reader's interest? Do I "show" the qualities that will make me an outstanding PA, instead of just listing them? Do I show understanding of a PA's role? Does the conclusion convince the reader I'm ready for PA school? Have others read and enjoyed my narrative? Is it grammatically flawless? Do I have an overarching passion or theme that ties my application together? Are my future goals guided by my experiences? Am I a good "fit" at each school on my list? If an interviewer asks me why I applied to each school, what will I say? Do I have a game plan for applying? Have I set myself up for success by planning to apply early? Have I thought beyond the finish line of getting a seat to the logistics, pressures, and potential loneliness of devoting the next 2-3 years to school? Am I in a financial position to fund CASPA costs, interview expenses, seat deposits, and relocation expenses? Am I in a financial position to afford PA school? How is my credit score? Do I have significant undergrad loans, car payments, mortgage payments, or other financial constraints? Does my family truly understand the time investment of PA school? Will my partner move with me if I relocate, or will we have a long-distance relationship? Are we both on the same page about these plans? Can I confidently say I'm ready, not just for PA school, but for life as a PA? Gratuitous link to my blog: https://emttopac.wordpress.com
  2. 22 points
    So I need to keep this a bit vague, but interesting story. I had a pt recently with a significant traumatic injury who was not appropriate to keep at my rural , critical access hospital. I called one of the regional trauma ctrs(on a recorded line) and got a physician on the phone who is well known for not liking PAs. I presented a straightforward case about wanting to transfer the pt to a higher level of care for surgical evaluation and possible intervention. The physician started giving me the third degree and telling me how this was an inappropriate transfer because "most people with this injury don't require operative intervention". I pointed out that I was in a very small ED with minimal resources for trauma more than an hour away from a facility with a trauma surgeon. the physician told me to "talk to my IR department" to which I responded that we don't have one. I told the doc 5 or 6 times: the staff here is me, a handful of nurses, an xray tech, a lab tech, and an on-call fp physician who would never consider admitting a pt for observation of this particular injury. the doc then said" well let me talk to the ED physician then because you are just the PA". repeat of prior conversation. I had to resort to mentioning I knew the chief of trauma at the facility in question and they had asked me to send this type of pt to them before. after a 10 min conversation that should have lasted 2, the doc accepted the transfer. after they got off the recorded line, the transfer coordinator still on the line started apologizing. the next day I got a call from the chief medical officer of that hospital, who said he had reviewed the recording, apologized and assured me I would not have to deal with that behavior again. EM PA 1, Asshat surgeon zero. about time. behavior like this surgeon's used to be standard practice. this surgeon hit every benchmark for being the stereotypical surgeon during our call. they were belittling, condescending, and dismissive of my request, mostly because I was a PA. glad someone finally decided that this was not acceptable behavior. I did not need help making the decision to transfer. this was not a request for consult. I know my resources and knew this pt could quickly exceed them. I think this is probably the first time in 31 years that I have ever gotten an apology about this kind of behavior. maybe things are looking up.
  3. 21 points
    Last week I got my first official application decision of the cycle. Opening the email, I scanned the words frantically until I found the sentence I was fearing the most. It read, “I regret to inform you of the program’s decision not to pursue your application further.” These words translate much more simply to “rejection.” For a moment I felt like I couldn’t breathe. I knew that I would be receiving rejections throughout the cycle, but had hoped and prayed it wouldn’t be from this school. Not only was this program one of my top choices, but it is also the only school in my home city. The realization that I would not have the opportunity to interview hit me like a ton of bricks. With GPAs well above the program’s average and my state residency giving me a leg up over other applicants, I felt that I would likely secure an interview. I was wrong. After the news, I began to question my application strategy entirely. I chose to apply more intentionally to a handful of carefully selected programs landing on the lower side of things - 6. As the September 1st deadline for many programs was only a few days away I sent my GRE scores off to an additional school that I was going back and forth on, hoping that they would arrive on time. I was relieved to have everything complete with one other program, but I still questioned if 7 would be enough to land me an acceptance or even an interview. At this point I was doubting myself, my personal statement, my clinical experiences… everything. I wondered if there were red flags in my application or if I said the wrong things in the answers to the supplemental questions. I tried to stay optimistic, but I was disappointed and feeling insecure. My first rejection was certainly humbling, planting seeds of doubt that were becoming overwhelming. And then I saw it. I was eating my lunch and scanning my email when I suddenly read “Invitation to Interview” in the subject line of an email from my top choice. My heart started racing and my palms were sweating. After seeing the date provided, only 3.5 weeks away, I could barely focus enough to read about the interview details. I was ecstatic. Their initial email contained a typo and in a follow up email with a correction the admissions director revealed that I was the very first applicant to be offered an interview. I couldn’t believe it. This school was my reach, and I certainly wasn’t counting on being offered an interview, let alone the first one. I was over the moon. Here I am now, in the midst of the cycle with one interview scheduled and one rejection. Things are still up in the air, but I feel that I am at least back in the game. The ups and downs of this roller coaster ride will continue, and I couldn't be happier. Thus far, this process has been unpredictable. Although I have heard this repeated many times here by those wiser than myself, this experience has definitely shown me that there is no such thing as a sure thing when applying to PA school. Don’t be so quick to count yourself in, but also don’t count yourself out.
  4. 21 points
    yup, I have a lot of free time on my hands working solo night shifts.... anyway, some of these things have been listed here over the years, but thought I would put them all in one place 1. your first job is about leaning your trade, not about money 2. if you can afford to do a residency in your field of choice, do it! see #1 above 3. as a new grad you can have 2 of the following 3 if you are lucky; location, specialty, salary. choose wisely. 4. don't buy a $50,000 car right out of school. a good rule of thumb is take your yearly salary and divide it by 3. at most you should spend 30k on a car if you make 90k/yr assuming no alternative source of income and no other major debt. I have too many friends who have to work extra to make their $700/mo BMW payment. drive a safe and efficient car until you can afford your dream car. 5. don't buy a $500,000 house right out of school if you are single. take your yearly income and multiply by 3. this is a good price for a first house. 90k salary? 270k house. spouse/partner also makes 90k? you can double that. 6. living within your means(see #4 and 5 above) means you can work less, travel more, and take time to enjoy life. I spent too much of my 20s, 30s, and most of my 40s working 180-220 hrs/month. don't do that. now I work 168 hrs/month and have never been happier. I used to never have time to go out with friends. now I go out at least once/week, go to jazz clubs, etc. in 2017 I already have tix for sting, red hot chili peppers, U2, and foreigner concerts. I also now have time to do 2-3 international medical missions/year and taake time out with the family for spring break, cme conferences, etc 7. don't take the first job you are offered unless it's perfect. don't settle for mediocrity. 8. don't work in a field you detest just because it is a job. moving is better. you will be miserable doing surgery, urology, pain clinic, etc if you hate it 9. don't accept a "training salary" unless in a formal residency program. A formal residency program has off-service rotations and dedicated learning time. don't be fooled by training fellowships that are just low paid jobs in one dept in disguise. 10. don't accept a position that does not offer cme, retirement, malpractice, vacation, etc. you have earned a benefits package 11. don't work in a very narrow field right out of school unless it is your dream job and you never intend to leave the specialty. I know lots of folks stuck in jobs they hate who can't leave them. 12. if you are getting burned out consider the following: work fewer hrs/mo, see fewer pts/shift, switch specialty, switch location, find somewhere you are appreciated. I can't tell you how much better my mood is after transitioning from a high volume/low acuity facility(30 pts/12 hrs) where I was treated like an interchangeable worker bee to a low volume/high acuity(10 sick pts/24 hrs) facility where I am valued as an individual for my skill set and experience. 13. don't sign a lengthy contract or a non-compete clause. these are tools to keep clinicians in crappy jobs. If it's a good job, you will want to stay anyway. 14. don't take a job where your clinical supervisor is an RN or office manager. we are not medical assistants 15. don't refer to yourself as Dr Smith's PA. they don't own you. Say instead " I'm John Doe, one of the PAs here" or "I'm John Doe, I work with Dr Smith on the surgical service". language matters. don't let yourself be treated like an assistant. don't regularly take out trash, take your own vitals, room patients, etc unless the docs in the group do too. I can see this in a small office, but there is no excuse for it elsewhere. 16. don't work for free. if you are charting at home, make sure that you get paid for it. may add more later, but that's what I've got for now after a 24 hr shift. 17. don't take a job at far below market value just to be in a particular location. lots of new grads are taking jobs in NYC for example at 55-60k. As a young new grad this may seem like a lot of money if you have never had a real job before. it isn't when the national average is around 90k. know what you are worth. don't accept less. if enough of us do that the crappy job offers will go away.
  5. 20 points
    All is right in this world. Accepted into Emory University. I am done with this forum for now...everyone aspiring to get into PA school it took me four cycles. LETS GO.
  6. 20 points
    Hey guys, My name is Logan and I am a new first year at the University of Florida. It wasn't long ago at all that I was sitting where you are sitting, knee deep in the application journey for PA school. I have compiled a list of things which opened my eyes to the application process after having been through it twice, as well as things I wish I had known going into the process which I think would've helped me be better prepared. A little background on me-- I got my degree in Athletic Training at Nova Southeastern University in Florida, where I was SUPER involved in extracurriculars and leadership positions (multiple leadership positions in my fraternity, ATSO, Order of Omega, Up 'Til Dawn, research, etc) plus employed on campus. Because I was so involved, my grades suffered and I ended up graduating with a 3.4 cumulative GPA and a 3.28 science GPA... Not great. Through my undergrad being in a medical field, I also had a bunch of rotation hours to list on my resume. Immediately after graduation I had a bit of an identity crisis not knowing fully yet what I wanted to do "when I grew up", I went straight into paramedic school to gain added experience and buy time to figure out my future. I applied to the CASPA for the first time in 2015 straight out of medic school and, as you probably picked up, didn't get in. As a matter of fact, I didn't even get an interview... anywhere. Devastated, I decided to get a change of pace and uprooted my life to transplant somewhere else and busted ass working. I also identified that a couple of my science classes were a weak spot on my application, so I re-took them. I took a year off from applying and in 2017 I applied to 12 schools, was extended an interview at 9, and accepted at 6. Here is my list of things I have picked up along the way, and tips for you moving forward. When Applying: Apply Early!!! I know everyone says this but trust me, if you can beat the crowd, even if your application is meh, you may still be a shining star out of the small percentage to take this advice. Your chances of getting an interview is significantly higher the earlier you apply, especially if the program has rolling admissions. Get your application busted out literally as soon as possible, spend a short time reviewing everything, and start submitting them quick. If you are reading this now (posted at the end of June) and you haven't started submitting (or are close to submitting save for some last minute tweaking) yet, you are behind the ball. Get on it!! Apply Everywhere Make a list of literally every school (in the WHOLE US) you qualify for by the minimum standards (GPA, GRE scores, Class Prereqs). Yes, this is time intensive but there are books that can help you outline each program and their requirements. Once you have the expansive list of programs which you could theoretically get in to, cross out the ones which you would not accept even if you were given an acceptance. For me, it was anywhere with too cold of a winter (true southerner and have been in Florida for the last 9 years... 60 is chilly for me, lol). Keep narrowing your list till you get to between 10 and 15 schools. Obviously if you are a perfect applicant with a 4.0 GPA, incredible GRE scores, tons of patient contact, and a resume a mile long with achievements; you can have a shorter list... but since most people reading this don't have the "perfect" application, it is better to cast the net wide. Also- Just because a school says it will accept outstanding prereqs, doesn't mean in reality it will. Why should they take 1 incomplete package when they have thousands of others who offer the total package. Save your money and keep looking. Once you decide what schools you are applying to, make a folder on your computer dedicated to just that school. ex- "PA School Applications" > "University of Florida". Inside that folder, have every document pertaining to that school you can get. Any pertinent research you stumble across, all your essays, a copy of your supplemental application, etc.... You will be happy you did that when it is time to research for your interview. Save Up Money It is incredible how expensive the application process is, and not something I expected when I initially applied. The CASPA applications are expensive, especially for as many schools as you should be applying to. Then you have to worry about Secondary applications. Then when you start getting interview invites you need to pay for travel and the hotel, plus food, etc. It all adds up quick, especially if you have multiple interviews back to back in different states. Plan for it financially and it will be a HUGE weight off your shoulders when the time comes. Assuming you get in somewhere, then you have the seat deposit which is usually between $500 and $1000 - some more, some less. Make Sure Your Application is "Perfect" Before Submitting Every applicant gets the same baseline question... "Why Do You Want to be a PA". Every applicant is going to have a lot of (boring) similarities in their answer which the AdComm is going to read THOUSANDS of times before the cycle closes. Don't waste your one shot at giving them a glimpse into your personality and a reason to admit you. Show your passion for the profession without being cliche and highlight your achievements without sounding cocky or pretentious. PEER REVIEW THE HELL OUT OF IT. Like literally send it to all your friends who can write well. Send it to your high school or college lit professors. Send it to your career services department. Legitimately send it to anyone who will read it and give you honest feedback. Tell them to rip it apart grammatically, and offer them the option to tell you it sucks or put them to sleep. Kick your feelings and pride out the door for this one, if your essay sucks, you will not get an interview anywhere. Period. Once you have your essay as perfect as you think you can get it, hire a service to review it. I used myPAresource.com for my personal statement which was an incredible resource for the personal statement only. The give you line by line suggestions and edits and are ridiculously thorough. Once I got that back and had the rest of my application completed (all the other tabs on CASPA) I used www.mypatraining.com/applying-pa-school-coaching/ to have Paul rip apart the rest of my application to tweak the other parts (the little details you may have overlooked which could damage the overall application). Both services cost money, but were 10,000,000,000,000% worth it in my opinion. It is an investment in your future -- can you really afford to re-apply (again), and also miss out on another year of PA-C pay? Be Smart About Your References!!! A phenomenal recommendation from a PA-C in a small clinic in a town no one has ever heard of, who you have known for 8 years, ALWAYS trumps a mediocre recommendation from a big name in medicine who doesn't really know you well at all. The recommendation letters are a MAJOR factor in the AdComm's decision making process, and I had my letters mentioned in almost every interview I went to. Pick your people wisely, it really does make all the difference in the world. Pick people who know you well, have history working with you, and who think highly of you. Get Experience Get lots of it. Everywhere you can. Volunteering is YUUUGGEEEE in applications. if you have a lot of it, you will stand out. Do something where you are actually putting hands on patients. Looks better on paper and also helps build your bedside manor. EMT / CNA / Surgical Tech, etc are all great experiences (and extremely easy / short classes). Being a scribe is ookkkkkaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyy... but doesn't actually place any responsibility on you except being the provider's lap dog. Once Your Applications Are Submitted: Take a breath, but don't stop being great! The most labor intensive part of applying is done. Now it is just the waiting game which is killer. Use this time to keep bettering your application. Put in OT at work, Volunteer regularly, Re-take classes, etc. Most programs predict your future hour calculations based on the numbers you provide in your applications. You can go back in and add new experiences to your CASPA applications which some programs care about, others don't. When you do major things, shoot the point of contact for the program an e-mail or call the program to update them. Each program gets several thousands of applicants each cycle and although they wish they had a warehouse of people working around the clock to filter through applications and answer questions, most of the time it is just a few people doing everything. DON'T BUG THEM. Imagine if you had 3,000 people constantly e-mailing you and calling you at work... you'd never get anything done... don't be "that guy". Only update for the major things, and save the rest for the interview. DON'T BASE YOUR TIMELINE OFF ANYONE ELSE!!!! This forum is great for getting information... and also for causing anxiety attacks. I applied to UF within the first few weeks of the application being open and interviewed in one of the last groups and was almost immediately accepted following the interview. Don't lose hope till you get that e-mail or letter saying "thank you for applying but kick rocks". Time doesn't always equate to standing in their system. Make sure your contact information on CASPA is correct ***AND PROFESSIONAL****. Should go without saying but having inappropriate e-mails or voicemails may be funny in high school, the person trying to contact you for an interview may not find them as funny. You Get Called for an Interview!! Congrats!! It seems like a dream at first and that euphoric feeling proves all your hard work to that point is worth it. Do your happy dance then get back to business, this is where the intensive work begins. RESEARCH THE SCHOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can't put enough emphasis on this. Research the school so well that you and the Dean over the medical programs are practically on a first name basis. Every program has a website where they usually list their achievements, their scores, their faculty / staff, etc. Commit it all to memory. Make a Microsoft Word document dedicated to facts about the school and save it in the folder I mentioned earlier. Include pictures of the faculty and a short bio or things to take notice of. It is okay to creep a little bit (not like looking in their windows, etc)-- but like google their names, get on their Linked-In accounts. Get on the program's Social Media account and creep on that. Look for pictures and clues about the program, its goals and culture, and also about the students and what they are into. What is the mission statement? Does the program do medical missions? To where? Is the program big in the community? Do the students seem like a close knit bunch having a blast or are they indifferent to being there? How involved outside of the classroom are the professors? etc... You can gain a TON of insight by doing a google search of the program and by looking on the program's social media. Use this site and others to figure out what style of interview you are walking into. MMI / Panel / 1 on 1 / Group are all vastly interview styles and require a different preparation. Most of them have a group interview where you are tasked with solving a problem or working as a team on an exercise. Do yourself a favor and stand in the middle of the extremes on this one. This is an exercise to see if you can work and blend in a group setting... Be too aggressive (not knowing when to shut up / interrupting people) and you will be rated as bad as the person who doesn't really contribute anything to the group. Research Yourself!! Intimately know what is on your application and what is on your resume. You are going to get questions drawn directly from your application and resume... be able to recite the major numbers and have the important details readily available. One of the things I goofed pretty bad on in one of my interviews was not reviewing the independent research I had done Freshman and Sophomore year of undergrad... so like 5 years prior to the interview. It was on my application so it was fair game, and when asked about the more intricacies of the study, I blanked... not a good thing to do when sitting in front of the medical director for the program. Re-read your essay and supplemental apps. You may think you know your application pretty well but if you are not fresh on how you phrase things, etc, you may contradict yourself to the person with your essay literally in front of them. Make Smart Travel Plans Murphy's Law is a real thing and is no fun to try to come back from. I suggest always travelling a day in advanced to avoid any last-minute headaches. I was scheduled for an afternoon group on one of my interviews so I figured I would just fly in on the morning of and have like 6 hours to kill before my interview. Save money and time, right?... nope. My 6am flight was delayed due to mechanical failure until 1pm, putting me in the city at 3:30, 30 minutes after my interview was supposed to be. #Stress. It ended up working out okay, the program was understanding and that was one of the programs I ended up getting into... but if you can avoid that situation, save yourself the grey hairs. Go to bed early the night before and try to get good rest. Eat a balanced meal for dinner -- nothing too heavy or greasy. Day of the interview: The Motto of the Day is Calm / Cool / Collected If you let your anxiety get the better of you, you are 100% guaranteed to fail. Breathe... your preparation has done you well. The Morning of the Interview Wake up EARLY... like whatever time you need to get ready and get to the interview site on time (15 - 30 minutes early), wake up an hour before that. Remove any possibility of having to be rushed and your day will start off on the right foot. Eat a [LIGHT] breakfast. This is the food which will be keeping you awake and happy when meeting people, but should not have you in the bathroom every 20 minutes. My usual breakfast was a small amount of scrambled eggs, a small piece of protein (bacon or sausage), toast, and fruit, with water or juice to drink. Avoid dairy or anything too acidic (coffee or orange juice) if you think that will mess up your already anxious stomach. Leave Your Phone in the Car!!! Even checking your phone during the day can indicate boredom or that you are uninterested... appearances are EVERYTHING. If you rest your head, close your eyes, or even glance at your phone you can rest assured that you are on someone's radar for the wrong reasons. When You Get to Campus Everything, I mean EVERYTHING is scrutinized from the moment you get on campus. Your driving through campus to your destination should be impeccable and the second you're out of your vehicle pretend you're on youtube to be watched by the faculty later. Smile and and be literally as friendly as possible without appearing fake. Every interaction is fair game for scrutiny- from the "Good Morning" to the janitor to the conversations with "random" students on campus or your peers... it is all being watched. I know some programs plant people (like cleaning staff, and "random" students) in your path to see how you react around them. I know of other schools who have hidden cameras set up to watch applicants when they are mingling on campus. From the moment you get on campus till the moment you are at home, assume you are being watched and judged. Any "down time" should be spent talking and networking. Get to know your competition, they may soon be your classmates; plus it shows that you are comfortable within a group setting. Also usually helps ease your nerves to be social within a group experiencing the same anxiety you are. During the Interview Have fun with it. You have worked hard to get where you are and this is your chance to shine! Any interview blog you read (and I'm sure you have read most of them to this point) will tell you that body language is BIG... If you are having fun and are relaxed, your body language will show it. Confident but Humble is the name of the game. Own your past mistakes with dignity and be ready to give reasons why they should look past them and see you in a better light Enter the room and greet everyone individually. Firm handshake, eye contact, and a smile. If you know everyone's name that is a big win and can work in your advantage... but if you don't know EVERYONE by name or think you may call someone the wrong name, don't attempt. Make sure to have a couple copies of your resume readily available with you. Most schools wont need or even request it, but it shows you are prepared if you can offer it or produce it on demand. DON'T GET FLUSTERED!!! Some interviewers will ask you questions to try to get under your skin or try to throw you off your game to see how you will react. It is okay to take a moment and think and breathe... they are looking to see you under pressure. Focus on what they are asking and move forward. I once had an interviewer straight up say " I don't think you belong in this program, nothing about you impresses me" as the first thing when I got in the room... She was looking to see how I responded. Don't let anyone get under your skin and maintain your composure... you can breakdown and analyze once the interview is over and you're at home. When You Leave the Interview Make a mental note about your overall impression of the program, staff, and school... if you didn't get a positive vibe, that will come in to play if you get in to multiple programs. You need to go where feels like "home" because for the next 2- 2.5 years, it will be. Realistically speaking, most people don't get into the first school they interview at because they are walking into it not knowing what to expect and are visibly anxious. Prepare for that ahead of time by doing practice interviews and by getting comfortable talking to strangers and you will be ahead of the curve. Everyone says to send "thank you" e-mails... I disagree with their logic... If there are 200 people who interview at a program, every faculty member who interviews will have 200+ emails all saying the same thing "Thank you for taking the time ...............". I personally would get tired of even opening all those emails, so I didn't send them for the most part. The few that I did send I never got a response back from, which just reaffirmed my theory. Better practice would be (if you have time) to stop by their office at some point either later that day or in the following couple days and thank them in person. That opens the door for a more casual conversation and is more genuine, plus in my experience it went over better in general. Last Words of Advice: If you get in to a school early but it isn't your #1... please dear god put the seat deposit down anyway. That means you can breathe a little easier and are for sure going SOMEWHERE for the following year. Don't hold out for your #1 because you are optimistic and not wanting to possibly eat the money. Again... investment in your future. If you are rejected from a program before the interview, it is okay to ask why and try to get them to reconsider their reason if it is bogus. That shows balls, and also commitment to their program. One of the schools I was accepted to initially rejected me saying they wanted all of the anatomy classes from the same university ( I had 1 formal course from Nova along with a ton of other anatomy-based courses, plus 1 formal course from medic school, and another formal course from a community college from the year after I moved). I popped an e-mail back explaining my situation, the program director sided with me and I was immediately granted an interview. If you get rejected after the interview, some schools will offer advice (if asked) on how to improve for the following year... take them up on that offer!!! Programs LOVE repeat applicants, ESPECIALLY if they see significant improvement from the previous application. Lastly, if you get totally rejected and have to reapply, welcome to the club. The majority of successful applicants have that sobering experience and are accepted the next time around. Don't get discouraged, become inspired. Hopefully at least some of you found this list helpful, I know I could've used some of that when I was applying and stressing out. Don't hesitate to reach out to me if you have any questions! Good Luck and Go Gators!! :) Logan
  7. 18 points
    A lot of it is "the grass is always greener" syndrome. My advice: take the opinions on this board with a grain a salt. It's a very small sample size of the profession as a whole. I've been reading these boards for about 3-4 years now, and many people just come on here to complain. Sorry ya'll, but it's true. You can even search back on this forum to a decade ago and see some of the same arguments about how we should have all been screwed by now, but somehow we are still here... You have to keep in mind that many of the older PAs entered the job market as a new PA in a different era, and you can't necessarily blame them for bemoaning the current market. It's more competitive than you think. The rules have changed, so you need to know what those rules are before getting into it. However, every person who graduates from my program has a job within 6 months of graduating, and I know this isn't unique to my program. They actively help new grads network and finds jobs because they know that's a crucial aspect of their recruitment of new students. I'm never going to medical school. There's more to my life than work. If I get sick of being a PA later in life I will drop down to doing part-time or per diem work and find something else to do with my time. Want options later in life? Don't drown yourself in debt and buy things you can't afford.
  8. 17 points
    Hey everyone, I created this list of schools for those of us who did poorly in college when we were kids and have desires to be PA's. The list consists of the following: School name, CGPA, SGPA, PrereqGPA, and HCE hours. I don't know if this is ALL of the schools, but it was all of the ones I could find and I looked at pretty much every PA program. I hope this helps some of you out in your application process. If any one knows of other schools you can comment below and I will add them. Best of luck to all. https://docs.google.com/document/d/10DB5YytgTE6oOarGVgJQ_1Mm8Jj6g5J8eS1-yRj1CA8/edit?usp=sharing
  9. 17 points
    Good luck everyone! I bet this will be the week and our wait will be over. No matter what happens, everyone who was awarded an interview has qualifications and skills that would be great attributes as a P.A., I wish there were as many spots as there are great candidates!
  10. 17 points
    To all prePA applicants, I am a recent graduate from this program and just passed my boards! I am writing in here because I remember stalking and refreshing this website everyday/hour. By now, some of you have been accepted and congratulations! Others are still waiting and some may be denied. Whatever the case may be, I encourage you to continue to pursue your dreams no matter how hard it is to get it! Back in 2015, I posted in one of the forum threads about to give up on being a PA but people in here encouraged me to keep going trying. The only reason why I was going to give up was because I applied to PA school 7 times already. Yes. SEVEN times before I got in. I graduated with an undergrad GPA of 2.45. Yes. 2.45! But since then I've worked my butt off to achieve my dreams. So whatever your results may be, please know you are going into a great profession and persistence will pay off!! Also be patient with the school/faculty as interview process is a lot of work for them. I was the last person of my cohort to be accepted. I was accepted off the waitlist as the last person and was not accepted till the FIRST DAY OF ORIENTATION (meaning school technically already started). I walked into that classroom saying "hi everyone! I was just accepted 3 hours ago!". So my message here to you all is to keep trying and that rejections don't mean the end of the world! Good luck and congrats to those that have been accepted!
  11. 16 points
    Big News for OTP in North Dakota Posted about 12 hours ago by Jay Metzger NDAPA Members, The ND Academy of PAs Board of Directors is thrilled to pass on some important news from our meeting with ND Board of Medicine (NDBOM) last Friday. The NDAPA has been working with the NDBOM on achieving Optimal Team Practice (OTP) for PAs and at their meeting on Friday, the NDBOM unanimously approved to support PAs in the upcoming legislative session in our efforts! Specifically, the NDAPA is pursuing the following: Supervisory agreements currently mandatory for licensure in North Dakota will no longer be required. This means that PA’s will be responsible for the care they provide and the need to have a supervising physician will no longer be necessary. This is a HUGE change for our practices and profession. It better aligns us in practice for those employers that don’t even consider PAs due to supervisory issues. The NDAPA and PAs in North Dakota will still do what they have always done and practice in the team model. We are not looking to be “independent providers”, rather we want to be able to practice where we are needed. One concession that was a deal-breaker for the NDBOM was that PAs would need to practice at clinics, hospitals and physician offices that are established or meet certain criteria. The NDBOM concern was that PAs would pursue privately owned clinics for things such as cosmetic dermatology, medi-spas, etc. A PA may still be able to operate a clinic or practice of their own but would need approval from the NDBOM to do so. This concession was felt to be a reasonable request as we are trying to get PAs in areas that need providers in primary care. If we are able to get this legislation passed through the legislature, North Dakota will be the first in the nation where a PA can practice medicine without a supervisory or collaborative agreement with a physician. So what it is next? We are waiting to hear back from the ND Medical Association on whether they will also support us in our efforts. Their board meets at the beginning of December. Their support would be a phenomenal step towards our end goals. We are finalizing the proposed legislation and are seeking sponsors in the ND Legislature. We have a few names that will likely be willing, but if you know of any legislators that would be willing to do so, please let us know. In the next week or two, we will be sending out a form for signatures of support from physicians in ND. This form will be sent to all PAs in ND. This is where we need your help: find physicians that are in support of these changes and have them commit to their support by signing the form. Once we have a submitted bill, we will need all PAs to contact their local legislators and let them who we are and what this legislation would mean for the people of their districts and PAs in ND. We will keep you informed of our progress and please let us know if you have any questions or ideas (jay.metzger@med.und.edu or cell #701-361-4074) . Have a great week and Happy Thanksgiving! Jay R. Metzger, PA-C President, NDAPA
  12. 16 points
    New Federal Report Supports AAPA Priorities to Modernize PA Practice Urges States to Consider PA-Practice Changes December 6, 2018 This week, the Trump Administration released a new report promoting consumer choice and competition across the healthcare marketplace. The report recommends policy changes related to PA practice that are patient centric and consistent with AAPA’s legislative priorities. The report, Reforming America’s Healthcare System through Choice and Competition, recommends that states “consider changes to their scope-of-practice statutes to allow all healthcare providers to practice to the top of their license, utilizing their full skill set.” Specifically, the report urges states to give consideration to “eliminating requirements for rigid collaborative practice and supervision agreements” between physicians and PAs. The report also recommends that the federal and state governments consider allowing PAs and similar providers “to be paid directly for their services.” Before the release of the report, Jonathan Sobel, DMSc, MBA, PA-C, DFAAPA, FAPACVS, president and chair of the AAPA Board of Directors, met with the Secretary of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services to discuss policy issues that are essential for PAs. Additionally, AAPA met with senior administration officials and had an opportunity to provide comments. “We believe the recommendations related to PAs in this new report are an important step in the right direction,” said Sobel. “They should surely resonate with stakeholders as we continue to move the profession forward by advocating for PA-practice modernization, including Optimal Team Practice, at both the state and federal levels.” The effort to compile the report was led by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, the U.S. Department of Labor, and the U.S. Department Treasury, and follows an October 2017 executive order by the President. More Resources Optimal Team Practice Frequently Asked Questions About Optimal Team Practice AAPA Guidelines for State Regulations
  13. 16 points
    I attended! Here are some points I got. SMU will send interview invites at the end of the month 44 accepted in Oakland, 25 accepted in Fresno 3 interview days in Oakland for both sites No housing for either campus as of now $10-20K for living expenses in the Fresno program... it's more expensive in Oakland Interview 48 candidates on each day so 144 total candidates...so 69/144 people accepted into one of 2 campuses 1 on 1 with 2 diff faculty, group interview with 8 candidates and 3 PA students, and a meeting with chair + 3 candidates. Interview on Saturday (2nd/3rd weekend of January and 2nd/3rd weekend February) Roughly 1600 applications this year Let me know if you got any other questions!
  14. 16 points
    Here's my insight: The time to question if you should have joined the Army is not when you're in a landing craft and heading towards the Normandy beaches! Finish this one term! Honor your dream that much. Commit to doing the best you can for that long, whatever your best turns out to be. Go to your school's learning center and see what they have to say about your learning style. I personally got punched in the mouth by my first two tests in gross anatomy. And I was 58 years old with two challenging masters degrees already under my belt. I decided that I just wanted to stay and get a chance to see what would happen next. I followed the motto of "improvise, adapt, and overcome." I tried different learning techniques in almost every class and settled on what worked best for me. When the term was over, nothing felt better then pegging my dissection clothes (belt and shoes included) into the dumpster behind my apartment! Maybe you weren't meant to be a PA -- who knows? -- but now is not the time to dwell on that. I'm all for cutting ones losses when necessary but, even if you ultimately decide change your career direction, don't do it now or you'll always think of yourself as someone who flinched when the going got rough. You have been through a lot to get this far and now you need to prove to yourself that you can do anything for a term. Stop dwelling on job ads, the people back home, and ruminations about your desire to study. Tough it out for ONE FULL term and THEN you can see what you want to do. Good luck!
  15. 16 points
    I'VE BEEN ACCEPTED INTO THE BARRY ST. PETE CAMPUS PA PROGRAM!!!!! You guys, this is my 3rd time applying to PA school. I have waited sooooo long for this day and worked sooooo hard. I literally started crying. Congrats to everyone else that has been accepted and for those who haven't, keep your head up and if this is what you really want, do NOT give up!!!
  16. 15 points
    Hello Everyone! I am a first year student. And we started hearing around the the first part of December for interviews. However due to the fire we were closed for 5 days plus we had thanksgiving, so who knows if that will delay things. So hopefully not too much longer for everyone to receive calls. Good luck everyone!
  17. 15 points
    So I went to the open house last night and got a lot of info on the program, some of it surprising. I thought I would summarize things here in case it was helpful to other applicants this cycle. The number one priority at Pacific is GPA. Although their cut off is a 3.0, it was suggested not to apply without at least a 3.4. Of 2200 applications, only about 700 meet their soft GPA requirements and the rest they screen out. Both BCP GPA and last 45 semester credits are weighted equally, and more or less these two number should average to a 3.6 or above to be considered a competitive applicant. They will only read two LORs. It was stressed that they want to see letters from clinicians or supervisors in the medical field. If you have five letters, the two strongest medical letters will be selected and read as part of the application. Even if you have a strong academic letter and two weaker medical letters, they will toss the academic letter. Because they prefer high GPA applicants who are already obviously academically strong, at this point they just want to hear how those in the medical field view your abilities. Once your application is verified and sent over to Pacific, they will not look at updates. After verification your app is printed and it is not revisited. Any updates over the application cycle will not be viewed. Pacific doesn't use rolling admissions. They start offering interviews in September, about two weeks after the deadline. There is supposedly no benefit to early submission and all applicants verified by September 1st are considered for interviews. Interviews are offered on Saturdays in October, November and December. There will be four interview days this year. On each date about a quarter of the class is admitted. You will receive an acceptance email in about 3 - 5 days, usually the Tuesday or Wednesday following your interview day, if you were accepted and likely a phone call as well. Deposit is $1,000 and you have two weeks to accept or decline the offer. Those are the main things that stood out to me! If anyone has specific questions I would be happy to try to answer them. Good luck to everyone this cycle!
  18. 14 points
    HI all, I am the one who is behind the GFU doctorate and there is good reason for correcting this issue. First, you need to understand that academic awards are based on regional accreditation. Here is what the Northwest Commission on Colleges and Universities states: Degree Levels Associate A lower division undergraduate degree normally representing two years (approximately 60 semester credits or 90 quarter units) of lower‐division collegiate study, or its equivalent in depth and quality of learning experience. Baccalaureate An undergraduate degree normally representing four years (approximately 120 semester credits or 180 quarter credits) of upper‐ and lower‐division collegiate study, or its equivalent in depth and quality of learning experience. Masters A graduate degree representing approximately 30 semester credits or 45 quarter credits of post‐baccalaureate study, or its equivalent in depth and quality. Doctorate A terminal degree representing three or more years [90 SH] of graduate study that prepares the recipient to conduct original research, engage in scholarship, create artistic expressions of human emotions, or apply knowledge to practice. -- The type of degree awarded has nothing to do with the practice as a PA. That is governed by the state medical board and legislation. It does have everything to do with standards of regional accreditation. It is not degree creep, it doesn't change what needs to be done. It is simply applying the standards of regional accreditation and academic aptitude. oh, and the degree is a doctor of medical science. Not PA Medicine. And the tuition cost is similar to all regional costs (extrapolated out to 2021); the program has no fees. And finally, I was a "certified PA." Please don't get caught up in the falsehood of degree creep or thinking the university makes more doing this. Neither are true. The cost is the same. In fact, it is easier for me to build a Master's degree. But, I am an academic and I intend to pursue a program that meets regional accreditation standards as listed above. Hope this helps. Greg
  19. 14 points
    I couldn't hear much of the webinar however, a lot of the items discussed were about the Fresno campus expansion. They are still reviewing applications Interview invites to go out December for Jan/Feb interviews Acceptance to go out March 2019 44 students to Oakland and 25 to Fresno Everyone will be getting a survey in November (couldn't hear why) Start date for Fall '19 is 9/9/19 (both locations) There were other questions about curriculum and stuff, but I couldn't hear a lot of it.
  20. 14 points
    Hey everyone, just wanted to share my story with applying to PA school to hopefully help/inspire some others out there! This is my third cycle applying to PA school. My first cycle, I applied to 14 schools, got 4 interviews and from those 2 waitlist offers and 2 nos. My second cycle, I applied to 11 schools, went on 5 interviews (declined one), and again had 3 waitlist offers and 2 nos. This cycle, I applied to 19 schools, I've only heard back from 7 so far, have gone on 5 interviews and just received my first acceptance last week!! I've learned a lot from all these interviews and application cycles and am beyond excited to receive my first acceptance! If anyone has any questions for me about my stats/clinical info or whatever message me, I'm an open book! Good luck to everyone out there, I know how difficult this process is and am willing to share my experiences.
  21. 14 points
    Every doc I know tells prospective students to stay clear of med school. Take home message: working sucks, go back in time and be a trust fund baby. Edit: spelling
  22. 13 points
    Based off of updates from threads I follow on this forum, I have seen little-to-no change in salary offers that people are posting over the last few years. This is in no way meant to be anything other than informative and discussion producing, so please try and not attack. I just finished my first year at a primary care practice in Florida (one of the notoriously low paying PA states) I made $140,000 Next year I will make $180,000 I work my butt off while at the office, but I only work 8-5 with an hour of work at home M-F. No call. No nights. No weekends. Excellent benefits. I implore new graduates and even seasoned PA's. Know. Your. Worth. There is nothing special or unique about my employer. If they can afford to pay me this much and still reap a huge profit from my work, just imagine what employers at specialty practices are gaining from our labors. We are licensed medical providers that bring in 85-100% the value of a physician based on the patient's insurance, yet I am seeing salary offers that are hardly better than RN's and have not changed much in the last 5 years. Know. Your. Worth.
  23. 13 points
    My base is 154 k and with OT I'm on track to make about 170-180 this year. For my second job I drink a lot of Scotch.
  24. 13 points
    I'm sorry I couldn't scroll pass this. You've literally shown blatant racism in this post. "Look at any youtube video of someone who is talking about getting into PA school with a low GPA. They're always a minority." I'm Jamaican, Chinese and Belizean and I'm proud to say I have 3.8 overall and a 3.6 science gpa. As well as over 2700 hours as an MA at the age of 20. Do not put all minorities into one category. Their multiple white counterparts that I know throughout my school pre-pa club that have below a 3.3. You saying that you "don't care about anyone feelings" is sad because you're actually on a Pa forum. We are supposed to learn to care about all of our patients (FEELINGS INCLUDED). Do you really think the racism that you've shown throughout this post wouldn't fall over into your decision making for minority patients? I pray that any admission board member can see right through because you shouldn't be in this career.
  25. 13 points
    I get your frustration. But c’mon man. I know plenty of NPs who are solid clinicians and have skills identical to PAs. Do PAs have better schooling? Yes. Are most who come out of school better prepared? Yes. However, I know plenty of PAs with little real life medical experience and nurses who go to NP school with lots of RN experience. When I finish NP school I will be fighting for PAs. If you become a DO, you should be fighting for PAs, not tearing down/fighting NPs. If you choose to do the latter you won’t get far. The wheel is already in motion and there won’t be much that can be done to reverse these independent policies.
  26. 12 points
    Firm believer in medical practitioner. We practice medicine. Firefighters fight fire. Police police stuff. Truck drivers drive trucks. Pilots pilot things. We medicine stuff. "Hey there, I'm MediMike, medical practitioner with the pulmonary team" Straight forward. I'm not a physician so shouldn't have that in my name. I'm not an assistant so probably shouldn't have that in there either. And I dread the idea of explaining the word allopathy. Too many syllables.
  27. 12 points
    “Then why TF are you here and not there?”
  28. 12 points
    Weeeeelllllll.... lets see what I can contribute. Until about 6 months ago I was pretty much in the same position. I've been a PA for about 30 years and after years of more or less being my own boss life happened and we had to move to care for aging parents and I entered corporate medicine. Idiotic rules made by people who don't understand medicine. The solution to everything is "see more patients with less support". No voice in anything. We don't even need to discuss patients. Someone recommended "The Subtle Art of Not Giving a Fuck" to me to read so I did. Then I read it again. Then it was like an ice flow breaking up and moving off. What I came to realize is we have no control over anything and nobody cares about our opinion on anything. So I started not caring back. I don't give a thought to admin and crazy rules. I can't control them and they mostly just flow around me without any major effect. Patients? If they are morons I just shrug and move on to the next one. The ones that really needs something get all I have to give. Numbers? I go at a steady pace whether there are 2 people waiting or 50. If people leave without being seen...oh well. I can only go so fast and if they want more people seen faster we need more staff and resources. If they mention it to me I say "OK" and do what I was doing. Basically if you get to the realization you don't have any control AND don't give emotional energy to things you can't control you will feel much better. I enjoy my work most days because I like the people I work with and help the people I can without getting tied up with fools. Read the book.....
  29. 12 points
    This is a topic that has been addressed several times from lots of different perspectives. Let me give you mine. I'm old now, so I've been the interviewer way more times that I've been the interviewee. Some day, you will have too. I used to feel nervous then the the same way you do now. My life interview lesson: being the interviewee is not hard if you stop worrying about how you're doing and just "be." If you've too nervous, or over-rehearsed (usually easy to spot), you'll have a problem. Oh: knowing something about the program you've applied to is not "over-rehearsing"! The interviewer has read all the stuff that CASPA collects about you. Someone else at the school has read all that and recommended that you be invited. Why? To see what you're really like. Are your personable? Do you work well in groups? Can you think on your feet? Would they like to have you in class? Are you going to be a problem child? Can you take answer a question in 30 seconds? Can you briefly explain why you're here? What you think about your "C" in organic, or whatever, without making excuses and instead explaining why the experience made you better or stronger or wiser? Take the opportunity to interact with the other applicants. If you are in a group interview and someone else gets to answer a question first, look for ways to acknowledge what others have said and nicely build on it. Don't be competitive. I know that sounds counter-intuitive because you had to compete for the interview. But now you're among peers and hopefully future PA colleagues. It's time to play nice. You don't have to be gregarious, but you have to be willing to smile, be responsive, and share something of yourself when asked. I've described this before as acting like you're meeting your boyfriend's or girlfriend's parents for the first time, for those of you that are closer to that event than you are to your 50th wedding anniversary. You know: be yourself, but on a good day! What sometimes gets in the way is that you think your whole future depends on doing well in this one interview. Like you're the field goal kicker trying to win the Super Bowl with seconds to go. "If I miss, my team will lose, the coach will be mad, I'll get cut, another team won't hire a loser like me, my family will leave me, and I'll have to beg at an intersection to make a living..." Sounds funny, but we all can go go to a place like that when we panic. And these outlandish thoughts just make us tighten up and not be ourselves! In reality, this interview is only one event on one of many paths to this goal, which is only one of the many goals you'll have in your life. The more you fixate on it and tighten up, the worse you'll probably do. So get some rest, tell yourself that it is not the equivalent of match point in your life, and just do your best. You may be asked a bizarre question, like if you could be a body part, which one would it be and why? Is there a right answer to that? Of course there's not! Just roll with it and think on the fly. And, when you're done, having left an impression that you are a balanced, personable human being who has learned something from being alive this long while pursuing difficult goals, be satisfied with that. You don't have to be mistake-free in your life -- no one is. But only that your experiences -- good and bad -- have made you who you are. And that is good enough. Good luck!
  30. 11 points
    This is not meant to be self edifying... Have a new patient - 45yr old male, hx of Hodkins lymphoma many years ago - something like 15 I am not overly familiar with this, and read uptodate on it - (I know what I don't know) Says that they are at increased risk for colon CA and should have colonoscopy early I talked to him, explained - NO ONE not his PCP or Onc doc had ever mentioned this to him, so off to colonoscopy he goes - turns out precancerous polyps seen and removed... PCP is not about knowing it all, PCP is about reading, educating, and communicating to the patient what you have learned - it is not degree specific (to Boarded Doc's had NEVER mentioned this to him.....)
  31. 11 points
    Just saw this announcement from the AAPA. It looks like they are making progress on the title-change investigation by appointing a dozen PAs to an advisory council to serve as a resource for the firm that will be doing the investigation. The language makes it unclear if the specific firm has been chosen yet, but progress is progress, and results are expected at the 2019 HOD meeting so I'm sure they are making moves toward selecting a specific firm if they haven't already. It would be nice to know the specific thoughts of each of the PAs chosen to sit on the Title Change Investigation Advisory Council though. Either way, it's just nice to see steady movement on this topic. https://www.aapa.org/news-central/2018/09/pa-title-change-investigation-advances-selection-advisory-council-members/
  32. 11 points
    If I had a dollar for everytime I checked this forum, then I probably would have my PA school tuition paid off by now.
  33. 11 points
    I just got accepted off of the waitlist!!!!!! I cannot believe this right now!!!
  34. 11 points
    Do you have the same opinions about MDs teaching/precepting PA students? To this day, the one single person who taught me the most about my field is an older PA, back when I was a new resident. I would hate it if PAs could only teach PAs, or NPs only NPs or MDs only MDs. I think we'd all be poorer for it. When I read EMEDPA's posts about a clinical topic, I always learn something new about emergency medicine. I think that's great. I don't know. I'm old fashioned - if you have knowledge to share, you should share it freely. I think it's an important part of our profession (and part of most version of the hippocratic oath). I think you can advocate and fight for the advancement of your profession but also be open to teaching people if they want to learn.
  35. 11 points
    So I took a road trip with some PA friends to go see Dave Matthews perform over the labor day weekend. We were sitting in a roadside restaurant in central Washington and a fellow comes up to us and says" Hi, did I hear you guys say you were PAs? I am too". so we talk for a while about where we went to school and what we do and he says he just retired from the public health service. I asked at which rank and he said "rear admiral". I was talking to this guy and didn't even know it until right then: https://pahx.org/assistants/elizondo-epifanio-epi/ Nice, normal, down to earth guy. He ran the U.S. 2014 Ebola response in Liberia. Seems like he would have been a great guy to work for. I'm still upset that by the time I figured out that the PHS is a great career I was over age 44 and therefore not eligible.
  36. 11 points
  37. 10 points
    Relax, review your anatomy and physiology now, and have fun before school starts. When school starts, keep up in class, be collaborative and not competitive, bond with at least some of your classmates, treat school like a job, experiment with what study techniques work best for you (may not be the same in every class), set aside time for yourself every day, briefly celebrate after tests, exercise (even if only to take a walk), eat healthy (most of the time), have a good support structure for the tough times, and remember that many thousands of people have successfully navigated these waters. You can, too. And, surprisingly, you'll probably look back at it (most of it anyway) with fondness. Best wishes, newbie!
  38. 10 points
    Long story short, the hospital I work for in Virginia has decided to move towards only interviewing/hiring NPs. The rationale: NPs don't require supervision or co-signature. State law says PAs need 5% of their charts co-signed, hospital policy is 100% and have in turn used that policy to change the status quo. Cautionary tale comes in two forms, the first being the obvious that the time for a name change is upon us. As long as the name assistant is associated with our profession, this will continue to happen across the country. The second cautionary tale is the need for a pile of 'F-U money' on hand. When I precept soon-to-be PA graduates, I tell them to tuck away $10,000 in a high yield savings account and never touch it. Start this with your very first paycheck. This is your "hell no, I'm not doing that" fund for piece of mind that you can leave any toxic position without worry because you'll likely be able to find another gig while you live off of that money. Fortunately I practice what I preach and had the flexibility to walk away without being forced to stay with a team heading in a direction I don’t agree with.
  39. 10 points
    Well after spending the day in the ER and having a family member admitted I noticed one thing.... The first 5 seconds of your visit are the most important for raport building.... and to put someone at ease. Lots of people coming in and out of the room, only one actually stopped, fully introduced themselves and explained their roll in the delivery of care. That one was received the best by the patient and myself (I was there as family, no name tag, keeping quiet in the corner so no one knew my position/education/title) Those first 5 seconds are critical and so many people waste them by just jumping into history, or even worse exam (way to fast!) So stop outside the door take a deep breath knock, ask if okay to come in walk in slowly, close the door behind you - hospitals are noisy places introduce yourself, your title, and your role ie I am the hospitalist provider Shake a hand or make and effort to touch the patient is a gentle introductory way - if received well indeed shake the hand, if not received well just stop looking for contact Pause briefly and let the patient and family absorb who you are, what you are, and what you are likely doing there.... Max 5-10 seconds and yet it sets the stage for a successful interaction...
  40. 10 points
    Hello fellow PAs, I wanted to know if any of you could relate and/or had advice with regards to switching from office setting practice to hospital practice. I have been doing OB/Gyn in an office setting with tons of autonomy (no attending on site), set hours, and routine care x 3.5yrs. I am looking to go into the OB/Gyn hospital setting to broaden my scope and to deliver/surgery. What are some of the challenges I should forsee? I know answering to attendings, longer hours a day, and being on my feet more are some. Thanks!!
  41. 10 points
    I found out I was accepted on Thursday and I am still in shock!
  42. 10 points
    1. The docs I have known and worked with are some of the most unhappy people I know. They are also very down on medicine in general. They are suffering from the same, "shut up and dance monkey!" mentality from Admins and corporate medicine companies. The problem is not the MD, DO, PA or NP. The problem is medicine in America. The "squeeze every dime out of a patient until they are bankrupt, and then drop their ass" mentality. The providers who do the work are making the least, while corporate admins rake it in all while not seeing or treating one patient. Drug companies that constantly F*** patients over. Insurance companies that have entire divisions setup to find a way to deny a claim. On and On... The problem is the mentality of the country we live in and practicing under that mentality. I'll leave you with this before the flaming starts. NO ONE SHOULD BE MADE TO GO BANKRUPT BECAUSE THEY BECOME SICK OR INJURED. PERIOD. Capitalism is great if you're making burgers. When applied to medicine it just sucks.
  43. 10 points
    Got an interview invitation today for 10/3!!!
  44. 10 points
    After a wee bit of investigation, OTP4PA has been banned as a repeat troll: He is EMFuturePA, who had not previously been banned, but only placed on moderation (preapproval required for new posts). Rather than post civil content, this individual violated the site's rule against more than one account per person. Rather than me having to review logs and whatnot, I'm going to shortcut the process: Any account with <1 month since creation, which starts any thread on any contentious issue, may at the discretion of any moderator be treated as a troll and banned without further discussion. That is to say, the recent focus has been sewing resentment of NPs, but there are any number of other topics which could provide similar sport for trolls. Members in good standing with good troll-sensing abilities are welcome to flag any such threads or posts for moderator review. And if you just happen to be the sort who wants to engage in vigorous name calling and divisive posting: get your own site. I just checked, and paswhohatenps.com appears to be available.
  45. 10 points
    Hey! I am a trauma PA at an ACS Level 2 trauma center. I work 7a-7p, 7 on 7 off. a typical day for me is first rounding on our ICU patients. if there is an abundance of floor patients I sometimes help out with those as well. I respond to trauma activations and assist with the work up of those patients. I also see consults in the ED. As needed will first assist with our trauma surgeon in the OR. I am also trained in procedures including chest tubes, central lines, intubation, art line placement, bronchoscopy, assist with bedside trach and PEG tube placement. manage the ICU patients as needed including labs, rads, some vent management, pressors, blood products, etc. the work weeks can be hectic and doesn't leave much time in the evenings to do a whole lot but I am also off 26 weeks a year not including my accrued leave time. so, I would say I have a pretty good quality of life. the work environment can be hectic and stressful but that is medicine in general. and its trauma so it can be very heartbreaking as well. one thing is for sure and that is it makes you appreciate life and to be responsible with regards to safety; i.e. seatbelts, distracted driving, properly restraining children, etc. personally, it is a very fulfilling job and not to be cliché but for me is the 'dream job' as it encompasses most everything that interested me and little of what did not.
  46. 10 points
    I just received my acceptance call!!! I am beyond excited!!
  47. 10 points
    I think name/title change needs to be rolled into all new OTP legislation after a title is decided on. hard to ask for increased autonomy and scope of practice as an assistant. go big and do it all in one fell swoop!
  48. 10 points
    Hi guys!! I am a first year in the program at Duke and would love to help y'all along as much as I can! If you have any questions feel free to respond to this or shoot me a message, and I will get back to you as soon as studying allows haha! If I'm remembering correctly I think Duke started reviewing applications two weeks ago, so they are moving as fast as they can! I know the waiting process is the worst, so I will try to update y'all as I hear any pertinent news regarding applications/interviews! I will include my timeline below in case it will help y'all to relax and not feel like you have to check your email every two minutes (although that's totally normal)! Submitted CASPA: 06/08 Verified CASPA: 06/12 Application received email from Duke/supplemental application: 06/28 Submitted supplemental: 07/04 Placed in queue for review email from Duke: 07/26 Interview invitation: 09/07 Interview: 10/11 Admission email: 10/23 (My interview was during the first round, so it took us the longest to hear back. I think the other rounds heard back within a week)
  49. 10 points
    Today I had to say goodbye to an old friend and great PA who was a pioneer in PA practice ownership here in Texas Mr. Richard Branson. Richard passed at 1PM today after a long fight with chronic heart disease. Richard and I became fast friends and thick as thieves many years ago when we both served on the TAPA board. Probably more than any other 1 PA he was responsible for the strategy and leg work that achieved the successful passage of legislation granting us scheduled drugs prescribing rights. Since then Richard started his own practice in San Antonio in a very busy and competitive market and then created what he called a practice incubator, a written guide that provided guidance and resources for other PAs who wanted their own practice. He gave this away, along with his personal support and advice, to any PA who wanted to strike out on their own. He never asked a penny or a thank you from anyone he helped and there were many. He was also a driving force in organizing and funding a law suit in federal court that stopped the medical board from, essentially, taking practices away from PAs that owned them because they weren't majority owned by physicians. He was a quirky genius and I feel sad for the people who couldn't see past the quirk to the gold underneath. PAs in Texas are better for having him among us and are just a bit diminished today with his passing. So long old friend.
  50. 10 points
    Just wanted to share my experience in case anyone is thinking about taking the plunge... As of today, no more student loans for me. I graduated in 2014, have been in practice for a little over 3 years now. Started out with roughly 120k in student loans, government and private. Have really just focused on paying the loans down for the last 2 years. My wife and I live in a smallish apartment and have been fairly good with our budget. Once we decided to tackle the loans we remained committed to make it happen. We obviously do not own a home but we are okay with this. I have been able to contribute to my employer matched 401k, nearly maxing out since I was eligible, while also maxing out my wife's IRA (doesn't have employer 401k). Every once in a while I see a topic on here about paying off student loans vs investing vs buying a home. Obviously, everyone's situation is different, but I will say it feels pretty damn good to have this weight lifted. It's definitely not easy, and I have to thank my wife for her support as we have avoided buying a home that we both want, and even put off having kids (until said home is purchased). In the end I have a strong opinion that it will pay off. Truthfully, I was kind of hoping that the housing market crashes during this time we have been saving to pay off these loans and we could jump in at the right time. Don't foresee this happening, but you never know. What I have come to realize is that renting is not all that bad. If we were to buy a home in our current market, a mortgage on a ~350-400k home would mean an interest payment probably around what we are paying for rent anyways. Spend less on a home and we would be blowing cash on repairs for a fixer upper. Just my opinion, but I feel like it is a wash and I would rather have the extra cash to save for loans then pay principle on a house. Now, with all the extra cash in our pockets we could make extra payments on a mortgage and pay off sooner.. maybe.


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