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  1. 35 points
    yup, I have a lot of free time on my hands working solo night shifts.... anyway, some of these things have been listed here over the years, but thought I would put them all in one place 1. your first job is about leaning your trade, not about money 2. if you can afford to do a residency in your field of choice, do it! see #1 above 3. as a new grad you can have 2 of the following 3 if you are lucky; location, specialty, salary. choose wisely. 4. don't buy a $50,000 car right out of school. a good rule of thumb is take your yearly salary and divide it by 3. at most you should spend 30k on a car if you make 90k/yr assuming no alternative source of income and no other major debt. I have too many friends who have to work extra to make their $700/mo BMW payment. drive a safe and efficient car until you can afford your dream car. 5. don't buy a $500,000 house right out of school if you are single. take your yearly income and multiply by 3. this is a good price for a first house. 90k salary? 270k house. spouse/partner also makes 90k? you can double that. 6. living within your means(see #4 and 5 above) means you can work less, travel more, and take time to enjoy life. I spent too much of my 20s, 30s, and most of my 40s working 180-220 hrs/month. don't do that. now I work 168 hrs/month and have never been happier. I used to never have time to go out with friends. now I go out at least once/week, go to jazz clubs, etc. in 2017 I already have tix for sting, red hot chili peppers, U2, and foreigner concerts. I also now have time to do 2-3 international medical missions/year and taake time out with the family for spring break, cme conferences, etc 7. don't take the first job you are offered unless it's perfect. don't settle for mediocrity. 8. don't work in a field you detest just because it is a job. moving is better. you will be miserable doing surgery, urology, pain clinic, etc if you hate it 9. don't accept a "training salary" unless in a formal residency program. A formal residency program has off-service rotations and dedicated learning time. don't be fooled by training fellowships that are just low paid jobs in one dept in disguise. 10. don't accept a position that does not offer cme, retirement, malpractice, vacation, etc. you have earned a benefits package 11. don't work in a very narrow field right out of school unless it is your dream job and you never intend to leave the specialty. I know lots of folks stuck in jobs they hate who can't leave them. 12. if you are getting burned out consider the following: work fewer hrs/mo, see fewer pts/shift, switch specialty, switch location, find somewhere you are appreciated. I can't tell you how much better my mood is after transitioning from a high volume/low acuity facility(30 pts/12 hrs) where I was treated like an interchangeable worker bee to a low volume/high acuity(10 sick pts/24 hrs) facility where I am valued as an individual for my skill set and experience. 13. don't sign a lengthy contract or a non-compete clause. these are tools to keep clinicians in crappy jobs. If it's a good job, you will want to stay anyway. 14. don't take a job where your clinical supervisor is an RN or office manager. we are not medical assistants 15. don't refer to yourself as Dr Smith's PA. they don't own you. Say instead " I'm John Doe, one of the PAs here" or "I'm John Doe, I work with Dr Smith on the surgical service". language matters. don't let yourself be treated like an assistant. don't regularly take out trash, take your own vitals, room patients, etc unless the docs in the group do too. I can see this in a small office, but there is no excuse for it elsewhere. 16. don't work for free. if you are charting at home, make sure that you get paid for it. may add more later, but that's what I've got for now after a 24 hr shift. 17. don't take a job at far below market value just to be in a particular location. lots of new grads are taking jobs in NYC for example at 55-60k. As a young new grad this may seem like a lot of money if you have never had a real job before. it isn't when the national average is around 90k. know what you are worth. don't accept less. if enough of us do that the crappy job offers will go away.
  2. 33 points
    Hey everyone, I'm a fourth year medical student- if there are any of you that ever spend time on Student Doctor Network might know me as Mad Jack. I am a respiratory therapist as well, though no longer by trade, but I keep my license active as a matter of pride. But here's something I've noticed over the years. I was guilty of it as well, when I was "just" a respiratory therapist, and even now, when I'll occasionally mutter that I'm "just" a medical student. You aren't "just" PAs. You're damn good clinicians that many hospitals and practices couldn't function without. You've got strong clinical skills and acumen that allow you to do many of the same things physicians do, and often just as well or better. Yeah, you aren't the physician, but you're also not "just" a PA, you're a physician assistant, a title you worked hard to earn and work harder still to practice. So next time you find yourself about to say it, maybe hold back and say something else. I know it's easy, and fast, and gets across what you like to say. I did it all the time as a respiratory therapist- "oh, I'm just the RT..." And now it's frequently, "oh, I'm just the medical student..." But I feel like it feeds into a subconscious narrative that you're something lesser, either to you or those around you. Every clinician should be proud of what they do, physician assistants as much as any. We all make this health care thing work (when it does, at least) and we all have a part to play. This post was kind of prompted due to my accidentally offending a PA. She said, "I'm just a PA," to the radiologist when asking him to verify what she'd read. He and I were both like, "you're not just a PA." Her read was right, and I was like, "you're not just a PA, you know what you're doing." Which I think she took to mean other PAs don't, but she does. But that's not what I meant at all- "you're not just a PA, you're a skilled clinician that knows what you are doing- you are a physician assistant, and a good one at that" would have been the more wordy but accurate thing to say. Yeah, she isn't a radiologist, but maybe she could've said, "I just wanted an expert read on this" and brought him up rather than shooting herself down, I don't know. With other providers it isn't a big deal, but with patients, I feel like saying "my initial impression is X, and we should have a final read from radiology soon" rather than "I'm just the PA, and I think X, but let's see what the radiologist says" comes across better. Anyway, that's it from me. Keep being awesome you guys.
  3. 26 points
    I just want to encourage those of you who have a low GPA and want to become a PA. Here’s a little bit about me. I applied twice to PA school. The first time I applied, I applied to 12 schools and didn’t get an interview invite from any of them. My cGPA during the first cycle was around d 2.88 and my sGPA was around a 3.2. I had rough start to my college career. My GRE scores were horrible- less than 140 on both the quantitative and qualitative. After my rejection, I retook the GRE. I ended up getting 151 on the qualitative, 147 on the quantitative, and 3.0 writing. I retook two of my prerequisite classes, both of which I had C’s in. The grades I got in those classes was an A, and one B. I Also took another biology class just to add a little more to my GPA. Even with my improvements, I still didn’t fully believe that I could compete with the stellar applicants on this forum. I guess one of things that I had going for me as it concerned my GPA is that there was an upward trend. Over the last 100 or so credit hours, I went hard. I averaged somewhere around a 3.5 cGPA—this included the later semesters of my undergrad work as well as my post-bacc—but still my cGPA remained at below 3.0 As many of you know, low GPA’s aren’t appealing to schools. Many of you are wondering what can you do to stand out amongst the crowd of those with damn near 4.0 GPA’s. Here’s my advice, go to the open houses!!!!! Almost every school that I’ve applied to has an open house meeting. Here, you’ll have the opportunity to meet with the admission faculty. By attending, you become more than just an applicant, you become an actual person. When you go, make sure you dress and act as though you were on an actual interview. You are being watched the entire time by both the faculty and students. Make sure you speak well and look good. Buy a new suit…but not a black one. Black is a common color that people wear to the open houses and interview. Remember, your goal is to stand out, so details are important. This advice my friends is what I believe contributed to my admission into PA school. Of course, my hard work over my last 100 credit hours played a major part too. So I guess my point in all this is to push as hard as you can to help resolve the mistakes that you may have made in your earlier college days and go for the gold!! My last bit of advice is to not allow yourselves to be filled with doubt. I was disheartened to read some of the replies to the posts on this fourm where PA applicants asked if they had a chance of getting accepted to PA school with stats that were similar to mine. Some people were advised by members of this fourm that they had no chance, and I couldn't disagree more. This opportunity is yours for the taking. Don't accept someone on a blog site telling you that you don't have what it takes. Blessinga to you all.
  4. 21 points
    If it makes you feel better, we are not alone - in addition to killing PAs, NPs are killing a lot of patients, too.
  5. 20 points
    Last week I got my first official application decision of the cycle. Opening the email, I scanned the words frantically until I found the sentence I was fearing the most. It read, “I regret to inform you of the program’s decision not to pursue your application further.” These words translate much more simply to “rejection.” For a moment I felt like I couldn’t breathe. I knew that I would be receiving rejections throughout the cycle, but had hoped and prayed it wouldn’t be from this school. Not only was this program one of my top choices, but it is also the only school in my home city. The realization that I would not have the opportunity to interview hit me like a ton of bricks. With GPAs well above the program’s average and my state residency giving me a leg up over other applicants, I felt that I would likely secure an interview. I was wrong. After the news, I began to question my application strategy entirely. I chose to apply more intentionally to a handful of carefully selected programs landing on the lower side of things - 6. As the September 1st deadline for many programs was only a few days away I sent my GRE scores off to an additional school that I was going back and forth on, hoping that they would arrive on time. I was relieved to have everything complete with one other program, but I still questioned if 7 would be enough to land me an acceptance or even an interview. At this point I was doubting myself, my personal statement, my clinical experiences… everything. I wondered if there were red flags in my application or if I said the wrong things in the answers to the supplemental questions. I tried to stay optimistic, but I was disappointed and feeling insecure. My first rejection was certainly humbling, planting seeds of doubt that were becoming overwhelming. And then I saw it. I was eating my lunch and scanning my email when I suddenly read “Invitation to Interview” in the subject line of an email from my top choice. My heart started racing and my palms were sweating. After seeing the date provided, only 3.5 weeks away, I could barely focus enough to read about the interview details. I was ecstatic. Their initial email contained a typo and in a follow up email with a correction the admissions director revealed that I was the very first applicant to be offered an interview. I couldn’t believe it. This school was my reach, and I certainly wasn’t counting on being offered an interview, let alone the first one. I was over the moon. Here I am now, in the midst of the cycle with one interview scheduled and one rejection. Things are still up in the air, but I feel that I am at least back in the game. The ups and downs of this roller coaster ride will continue, and I couldn't be happier. Thus far, this process has been unpredictable. Although I have heard this repeated many times here by those wiser than myself, this experience has definitely shown me that there is no such thing as a sure thing when applying to PA school. Don’t be so quick to count yourself in, but also don’t count yourself out.
  6. 19 points
    I just walked a brisk pace to the kitchen to grab a beer. A bit of chest pain and some mild dizziness when I got back to the couch but, this too shall pass.
  7. 18 points
    I am dogging this issue to the point of getting a bad rep with admin. I'm not letting this go. The positions weren't advertised within the system as required and qualified candidates were ignored. I also pointed out that it suggests the organization thinks we are all the same which simply isn't true. I may get written up or fired but I am dogging this until I get some answers.
  8. 18 points
    Honestly there is so much unnecessary negativity in one post. This profession is no different than any other profession in terms of finding and keeping jobs. There are going to be multiple people competing for one job, no matter what profession you are in. You are going to have to search, apply, make yourself stand out during the interview, and make sacrifices, just like lawyers, accountants, teachers, etc. If you do not perform up to the standards, or if another company buys out the hospital, being laid off is a possibility, just like other major corporations. That's how the world works. Let's not isolate the PA profession in saying that it is the only profession that you should "be prepared to be let go" or many people are competing for one job. As with any other career, just because you have a degree does not make you qualified for the job. You need to prove yourself. The absolute negativity in these posts I am reading is truly unbelievable. Healthcare is a booming field, especially these days, so no one will be unemployed for long stretches of time, I don't care what you say. You people focus on "how many PAs and NPs are being produced each year," but do not look at "how many people are retiring per year." Our society is getting older and older, which is going to mean healthcare is soon going to accelerate at a pace faster than what it currently is. There is a reason why 19 of the top 25 jobs in America are in healthcare. There is a reason why NP and PA are 2nd and 3rd, respectively. There is a reason why PA was in the top 5 professions for the past 4 years. These are from multiple articles, not just one source. For those of you having difficulty jobs, location is the key factor. There are places where there are 10 PA and NP programs within a 50 mile radius, pumping out hundreds of PAs and NPs per year. Simple solution, look elsewhere. I can tell you that I am out here in the northeast and there is no shortage of jobs. Lateral movement is common here, people are switching for derm to EM to psych to surgery with no problem. Residency is a plus, but is not absolutely necessary. I work in CT surg and we constantly look for new grads to train. Sorry for the ramble, but I needed to speak up and quiet this negativity. There may be certain locations or instances where what some of you say is true, but you can't blame this on the profession as a whole. Certain locations or specialities may be hard to find jobs, but this isn't true of the PA profession as a whole.
  9. 17 points
    Yes. You have one foot in the grave at 27. Focus on the time you have left with your family. Good luck.
  10. 17 points
    Many years ago when my wife and I were dating I got an email from a young man who was a medic under me when I was an Army PA. He thanked me for what I had taught him and what I did for him. I was stunned because when I look at those years mostly what I see is what I did wrong and could have done better. It touched me...humbled me..honestly made me shake my head. I shared the note with my future wife who said “you have cast a long shadow.” While I wasn’t sure (and still aren’t) that I deserved that approbation the expression stuck with me. My wife is so much smarter than me… Lately I have been reflecting on that expression and our profession. I am a regular on a couple of PA boards and every day I am amazed at the talent and energy and caring and compassion and intelligence of my colleagues most of whom I have never met. It can get lost in the doom and gloom if you don’t look for it. Then I think of the PAs I have known (and I won’t name them because they would only feel uncomfortable and shake THEIR heads). My military colleagues..well I don’t even need to explain that. Providing care for our military members and their families under some very difficult conditions. Two of my oldest friends who have each given years and years of time to advancing the profession and who are, literally, 2 of the smartest people I have known in my life. My friend who spent 20 years growing and improving a PA program that, no doubt, touched hundreds if not thousands of lives. One of my newer acquaintances who has always been way ahead of the times in his predictions and beliefs about the profession and has now begun to see things he predicted (and worked hard to facilitate) for 10 years come to fruition. Many friends who gave their time, sometimes a lot of time, to their state, specialty, or national organizations for no reason other than they wanted to do something to advance the profession. The friends who work in under-served areas taking care of folks nobody else wants to care for, in places few will go, usually earning much less than they could somewhere else. I can’t even count the number of colleagues I know who volunteered to teach PA students in their clinical rotations for no compensation. It really just goes on and on. These days it is pretty easy to get bogged down in all the things going “wrong” with our profession. I think if we each take a little time to regroup and reconsider we can find a lot of things right with our profession. If you aren’t sure...if you aren’t sure where to look...just look for the long shadows. They are all around.
  11. 15 points
    What the administration doesn't realize is that, unlike the service desk at Walmart, our job many times conflicts with what the patient wants. We want to practice medicine, backed up by science, research and facts. They want stars posted by idiots who think a sore throat is cured by a zpack, will post bad reviews if they don't get what they want, and will sue when they get c diff. These are people who can't use a "temperature taking thing", want prescriptions for ibuprofen, and don't give their kids medicine for their 103F fever because they think the clinic will do it. I have reached my breaking point, both with my "guests" and the administration who makes me grovel for their happiness. To prospective applicants: if you think you are getting into this to make a difference, wait until your first Yelp review. On the shelf behind me is a bottle whisky, I don't know how old but I assume it's good because there's no e. It was given to me by a guy I found a testicular cancer in, he had surgery in two days. That's the only star I need, knowing that a life was made better because I was there. So suck it, administration.
  12. 15 points
    Confidence comes from one of 2 places. Hubris or experience. The first gets people killed. The second comes only with time in the trenches. Experience and learning from it never ends and anyone who tells you they haven't had a "miss" in their career is kidding themselves. I have been at this about 30 years and have fairly broad experience. The other day mom brought a baby in because "he just isn't right" and "he seems sleepy" and "the babysitter says he took a 3 hour nap and he never does that." I went over this kid with a fine tooth comb...twice. He was sleepy but aroused and fussed at me when I pestered him.Vitals were perfect. Exam was benign. I told mom to watch him for a couple of hours and see what happened. If he popped back great. If he didn't or anything worsened in any way go to the ER. The next morning I checked and they had gone to the ER. Benzo overdose. The babysitter drugged the kid so she wouldn't have to watch him. Never crossed my mind. It was a hard miss and I'm smarter for it and the kid is going to be fine. It shook me but it didn't break me. Hang in there a while longer and you may find confidence will come to you with more time and experience.
  13. 14 points
    Since the "residency journals" already posted on this forum were extremely instrumental in my decision to apply for a residency program, I decided to pay it forward and do the same. As with previous posters, I can't promise any kind of consistency during the busy schedule, but I will try to check in every once in a while and share what I've been up to and what I've learned. I'm also going to follow the cues of those who have gone before me by choosing not to identify which residency program I am attending. One of the things I was most interested in before I applied and during the application process was the experience level of current and previous residents. I myself knew I wanted to be a PA in college, majored in biology, and took a year off to work as an aide in a nursing home, which comprises the entirety of my past medical experience. Many of the people I've talked to in my program had more experience (several CC or EMED nurses or CNAs, some EMTs and paramedics; one was previously a transplant director), but all assured me that they felt everyone started out at about the same level, with their own strengths and weaknesses. They encouraged me to apply despite my lack of experience because the program would likely appreciate having a blank slate to work with (no "bad habits" learned at old jobs). It was addressed directly at my interview, and I got the impression the program directors felt exactly that way, and also that they valued soft skills (adaptability, attitude, and other unteachables) over hard skills. In fact, I decided to do a residency well after I'd already done my elective in school (outpatient GI) and so I never actually had a critical care rotation, just passing time spent in different units as part of IM and surgery rotations. Grades-wise, I believe my GPA was at or *slightly* above average at my school, but I knew I had very strong letters of reference from clinical preceptors. Other things I wondered about before starting... Pay ($60,000). Hours (60+/week). Structure (rotating monthly through ICUs, with one month airway, one month divided between nephro and ID, and one month of elective). Why did I choose to do a residency? I had thought about residencies from the moment I learned about them, and shortly in my rotations, I felt very strongly that I wasn't going to be done with formal, structured learning when I graduated PA school. Taking the pay cut was worth it for me in order to get a great start in a really challenging field. If there's some other question anyone has (if anyone reads this, lol), please feel free to comment below, and I'll try to respond in a semi-timely manner. I'm starting off with bootcamp and then about a month in the OR learning procedures (lines, intubation, etc). I got my work phone and a big binder of info in the mail the other day, but I don't think it's going to feel real until I'm standing back in the hospital on day 1.
  14. 14 points
    Shout out to all my low GPA people out there, DO NOT GIVE UP! I have a pretty bad GPA for applying to PA school, but I had around a 3.5 for my last 60 credit hours and I worked up a healthy amount of HCE to bolster my application. It took me a long time but I made it and you can too! Undergrad Ed School: University of Maryland College Park (B.S. in Biology) Cumulative Undergrad. GPA: 3.0 Science Undergrad. GPA: 3.0 Age at application time : 24 1st GRE: 155 Verbal, 154 Quant, 3.5 AW) Direct Patient Care : Medical Scribe and Chief Medical Scribe (1500 hours) Medical Assistant in Spine Surgery (4000 hours) Shadowing Experience: All of my shadowing is from following PA's as a scribe ~1000 hours Schools Applied: 15 schools, yes, FIFTEEN Application Submitted Date: June 16, 2017 Interview Invites: Lincoln Memorial University, my only interview! Denied: Literally 14 schools Waitlisted: 0 Accepted: Lincoln Memorial University Attending: Lincoln Memorial University DeBusk College of Osteopathic Medicine Class of 2020!
  15. 14 points
    Its ridiculous. Soon everyone will be a doctor. Meet your Doctor of Custodial Engineering:
  16. 14 points
    Good luck to everyone applying this round! I went through my emails and compiled my general timeline from last year's cycle, as I remember my unhealthy obsession of refreshing my inbox. Feel free to PM any questions! CASPA Received, Supplemental Link: 07/22/2016 Duke PA Application is complete: 07/26/2016 PA Application is being reviewed: 09/02/2016 Invitation to Interview: 09/13/2016 Predetermined Interview date: 10/24/2016 Offer of Admission: 10/31/2016 Deposit ($1125) and response due: 11/10/2016 Email correspondences begin: March 2017
  17. 14 points
    Yes, it is worth it. I have worked in family practice for thirty years. I have some families for which I have taken care of four generations. I have experienced the joy of telling a young couple that their infertility efforts have paid-off and they are expecting a baby. I have ended fears by telling a man he does not have cancer. I have extended the lives of many people by treating their hypertension, diabetes, and dyslipidemia. I have also been a friend and support to patients with metastatic disease. I have been a comfort to an old woman with end-stage renal disease. I have been a shoulder to cry on. I have even cried with families. I served my country in the military. I have been blessed in many ways with my calling to heal. We all need to wake up every day and remember that we are here to serve, not to be served. Plumbers don't get those same rewards.
  18. 13 points
    I want to take the opportunity to apologize to the pre-PA forum participants and the other staff here for NOT restricting our recently-banned troll after I locked the first thread. I have thick enough skin to ignore the barbs directed at me, but I should't have: he turned right around and directed them all at you who tried to help him. If you missed the drama, good. If you didn't, you have my promise that I'll be quicker with the block button when we have a poster with SDN-level snark polluting the boards. This isn't an echo chamber, but nor is it an open invitation for random people to belittle your choices. Do try and keep to the high road, no matter how tempting it is to react. I saw a few folks getting (justifiably) hot and bothered in the now-gone threads, but that's never going to fix anything, so in case of future trolls, please resist as much as you can.
  19. 13 points
    Ok up date, if you actually care lol Existential crisis averted. Basically just focusing on helping patients rather the idiocracy that flows around me on a daily basis (psychiatrist of 20 something years not knowing SSRIs cause hyponatremia; taking a paranoid pt, that believes we are helping her attackers get out of prison, off antipsychotics b/c she requested it; not switching a chronic schizophrenic off typical antipsychotic after developing EPS just slowly lowering dose; wanting to call internist consult for HTN when after reviewing chart pt was never started on outpt antihypertensives, etc, etc). What led me to believe that I couldn't be a PA was that I was by myself in making decisions in a field I was new to and the docs didn't provide much help so I questioned everything... EVERYTHING. I've accepted that I won't know everything. Trust me, I understand that the studying never stops. For now I'm going to stay at this job because hell if I leave these patients are S.O.L. At least I'll learn what not to do
  20. 13 points
    About the first thing I've agreed with the AMA about in years. NPs CERTAINLY shouldn't have independent practice, and neither should we. Want independent practice? Go to medical school. We all made our choices in life, now live with them.
  21. 13 points
    i would amputate the leg and place the patient on dialysis
  22. 13 points
    Don't make some of us go Army/Navy/FMF all over you and tell you to stop the self pity stuff - glass half full says you passed your certification exam, so therefore can't be (a) stupid and (b) unknowledgeable about medicine. We've all had days/months where we've been wondering "WTF am I doing to myself?'...time for you to do what you'd tell a patient to do and sit down and analyze why you're an allegedly terrible PA? Is it because you work for dolts that engage in ego gratification through breaking yours down? Are you just plain old depressed and or charcoal, needing to seek out some therapy and or life coaching? Do you just need to find a niche for yourself within the domain of medicine? Basic primary care stuff here - start a diary. Write in it daily, at the end of the week make a summary and look at what you're saying to yourself and how you're saying it - is it the work or is it you? If it's you, come up with a mantra, write it down, and say it to yourself several times a day. If it's work, talk to your boss or someone you trust or start looking for something somewhere else. Make a list of things you're good at and interested in, what you're willing to learn/relearn and put into practice. For instance - if you're in primary care and are interested in sports injuries, start looking for someone who might be interested in mentoring you, courses you can take, etc. Get good at it and then tell your bosses, "Hey, I hate this other stuff, but am good/great at dealing with day to day MSK problems and am willing to take all that stuff off your hands." At least then you'll start feeling better about yourself, since work won't be work anymore, it'll be something fun and interesting instead. Myamoto Musashi said/wrote that it takes "1,000 days to forge the spirit, 10,000 to polish it"...you're not even a 1000 days in yet. SK
  23. 13 points
    my one piece of advice: get quality hce. don't just skimp and do the bare minimum. your hce is the framework for your future career. Lots of folks say hce doesn't matter and that anecdotes don't matter, but it's hard to argue with the fact that I see all the best jobs going to the folks with highest quality prior hce. you won't see a lot of low quality/intensity prior hce folks staffing rural ERs, ICUs, or working at the cutting edge of our profession. almost without fail tthose jobs go to the former medics, resp therapists, or RNs. the exception being residency grads. advice point #2. if you squeak through with minor hce do yourself a favor and play catch up by doing a residency to make up for the work you didn't do before school.
  24. 13 points
    Thank you for you feedback. I'll keep that response in my mind for my future posts. This is a community where we can lift each other up during a tedious and nerve wrecking processes. We are allowed to be emotional because we all have put our blood, sweat, and tears into this. We've ALL put aside our personal lives to come to this point. We all knew what we were doing when we decided to go into this profession, that goes for me too. Regarding the way you weren't too happy with my response, or that I am constantly complaining: We are allowed to feel and go through the ups and downs. That is why we have this forum to reach out to each other. I'm not sorry for my response is because I want other students to feel comfortable talking to each other, rather than tearing each other down. We're not asking for a pity party, we're asking for support. We're all feeling somewhat the same way. I'm sure other second, and even third, time applicants are feeling this way too. I just said it out loud. We are humans. We can let it out, its healthy. Aside from that, I do wish everyone the best of luck this cycle! Congrats to those who were already invited to an interview! I'm super excited for you! Best wishes! More importantly: DON'T GIVE UP :)
  25. 13 points
    Just got an interview invite for September! I almost didn't apply to this school again this year because I thought I had zero chance. But this goes to show that everyone should always have a little more faith in themselves even when you're the under dog! I know it's only an interview, but this is is the first interview invite i've received after applying to 10 schools last year, and 13 this year. cGPA 3.26 sGPA 3.28 Good luck to all !!!


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