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  1. 4 points
    Interesting statements, I fail to see the truth behind them. There are direct entry NP programs which require no nursing experience, there are an incredible amount of all-online didactic based programs with exceptionally high acceptance rates. Do you think this is because there is such a plethora of exceptional experienced nurses returning to school or does it make more sense that the standards may be low? How would you change the clinical time in a program? What would your approach to developing rotations be to ensure an adequate quality education? (Honest questions, as an educator I appreciate input) You bemoan low quality applicants on one hand then suggest increasing the number of spots made available? I can agree with your statement that we have watered down the PA profession, but until there is evidence that there is a difference in patient outcomes well...I don't have much of a leg to stand on. And while we're sharing anecdotes I'm happy to sit down over a beer and tell tales of idiot firefighters who couldn't manage to obtain an accurate history, obtain a basic set of vitals or develop the most rudimentary of differential diagnoses. Hell, I worked with a lot of them. So anecdotes are worth about as much as the paper this reply is written on.
  2. 3 points
    Well, or making sure that the requirements are really and truly being met. Unfortunately, the plethora of new programs seem to be paying well for preceptors, taking away from older programs that never had to... Hard to call that complying. Maybe we need transparency on what programs pay preceptors, so students can know where their money is going?
  3. 3 points
    Spoke with a recruiter today after I applied for a NP job posting. He said the system forces them to chose one, but they are accepting PAs, too. So, if you see something you like, apply.
  4. 2 points
    Copied from today's email: Message from the WAPA President On Feb 5th, 60+ PAs and PA students came to the capital for our second annual legislative day and it was a success! Our bill passed the house on Feb 15th with a unanimous decision, because of you! The system works, but we are not done. Our bill is scheduled to go before the Senate Health and Wellness committee on Friday, February 21st at 8:00 am. Linda Dale and I will testify on behalf of WAPA. You are invited to observe and support this effort. We have until early March in this short session to pass the bill in the senate and have it become law. Our focus if passed, will be to educate employers of the changes enacted by the bill. This is an uphill climb and will be executed by your president elect Gabe Zecha with the WAPA Legislative Committee, WAPA Board of Directors and you, our membership. https://app.leg.wa.gov/billsummary?BillNumber=2378&Year=2019&Initiative=false https://lawfilesext.leg.wa.gov/biennium/2019-20/Pdf/Bill Reports/House/2378-S HBR APH 20.pdf?q=20200218235857
  5. 2 points
    I think my grievance is twofold. Past medical experience really only represents a small advantage when it comes to being a provider. The duties of a nurse, paramedic, or scribe don’t fully encompass the breadth and depth of being a primary care provider or to work in a subspecialty. It is why you see such variance in quality on the other side that seems pretty independent of past medical experiences. Smart people and hard workers will always lead the pack. The threshold for entry in to PA school is also so much higher than for NP school. I will every single time choose the person who was top 5% of their class versus the person who happens to have nursing experience but wouldn’t be accepted to any PA program. Note that I am not equating the nurse in PA school to a top 5% student. That isn’t generally who we are comparing though.
  6. 2 points
    Agree on all points. Problem is, ARC-PA has to approve these programs if they meet requirements. It’s federal law. So what they need to do is bump up the frigging requirements and shut down these programs.
  7. 2 points
    I could honestly care less about docs anymore. They surrendered their role in medicine to their corporate overlords and the insurance industry. Lock stock and barrel they are now no more than employees. Employees we compete with for jobs. Time to stop asking permission and start greasing the pockets of lawmakers just like NP's have done. 21 states NP's have full practice authority......21 out of 50. We have 0. Nadda....zip. Let that sink in.
  8. 2 points
    This illustrates my point. Let us call this movement what it is, tell the physicians we understand they don't agree, and get on with it. Also let's stop trying to get the physicians permission and start developing relationships with business leaders, hospital organizations, insurers and sell what we have to offer. The physicians are never going to do anything but oppose us and yet we continually worry about upsetting them. It is a long dysfunctional relationship we have outgrown.
  9. 2 points
    I think about 85-90% find out in March
  10. 2 points
    Hopefully ARC-PA is going to be putting the kibosh on many/most of these. Rather than greenlighting new programs, if we are to grow it should be with established programs with proven leadership being allowed to organically grow by a few seats year-over-year. It's a catch-22: We have too few of us, we get overrun by the horde of NPs, poorly trained but independent from the get-go. If we have too many of us, we have no quality advantage. All the more reason we should have ONLY PAs sitting on the ARC-PA board making decisions about the PA profession.
  11. 2 points
    This is in response to Joelseff’s statement of not working in AAPA or state position.but still working for the profession. You absolutely do not need to be in a position of leadership to be a leader. You do not have to be in a leadership position to make a difference. I have repeatedly said legislators who pass bills do. It have a clue unless they are told and shown. They usually do not read all that is in bills. In my state with independent NP, I wrote letters to each and everyone of the house and senate reps, and spoke with several of them personally. NOT ONE of them that I spoke with realized the little amount of education and clinical experience of NP’s when legislators was passed. They are fed information and don’t have time to understand everything associated with decisions.. Only ONE that I spoke with understood PA education. Three thought more like glorified medical assistant. Following conversation, all felt PA’s should have as much independence than NP. Yet ALL could not get past title. how could you be viewed as practitioner without direct physician oversight with current title. Suggestion of Associate, was viewed better but they still felt restricting legislatively . My point is, ANYONE willing to make a difference, can make a difference. The state did pass some very positive bills, but I doubt if it will go further until a title change and unraveling from physicians. This is where AAPA and state leaders need /must be individuals who want more for the profession and are willing to discard thoughts of status quo is good enough.
  12. 1 point
    Hey everyone, I created this list of schools for those of us who did poorly in college when we were kids and have desires to be PA's. The list consists of the following: School name, CGPA, SGPA, PrereqGPA, and HCE hours. I don't know if this is ALL of the schools, but it was all of the ones I could find and I looked at pretty much every PA program. I hope this helps some of you out in your application process. If any one knows of other schools you can comment below and I will add them. Best of luck to all. https://docs.google.com/document/d/10DB5YytgTE6oOarGVgJQ_1Mm8Jj6g5J8eS1-yRj1CA8/edit?usp=sharing
  13. 1 point
    Hi everyone! I just took and passed the PANCE using Kaplan to study. I found it super helpful and I'm hoping some of you do too! The subscription lasts till June 11, 2020. You will have access to full question bank (reset for you), and videos. Accepting best offer. Message with offer or any questions
  14. 1 point
    I currently practice in NH and will be moving to Maine shortly for a new job. My last day of practice in NH is 3/3, and my proposed start date in Maine is 3/9. As far as I knew, I could just change my state and address listed on my current DEA license once I was done practicing in NH. However, the credentialing office at my new job is concerned that there is not enough time in between jobs to allow the change to take place. They are wondering if I can apply for a new and separate DEA license right now, but I originally felt like that was unnecessary. Does anyone have any insight or experience with moving states and getting a new DEA license versus changing the listed state of practice? Thank you! -Erin
  15. 1 point
    Hi! I received a follow up email a little after they called. Maybe give their office to call?!
  16. 1 point
    I don’t see FPA as alienating lawmakers more PA’s fear alienating physicians who BTW are no longer ones responsible for hiring you, often don’t get extra $$$ from you like they did in private practice, so don’t want to be responsible. Yes, lawmakers have a VERY hard time getting past the physician assistant. May be slightly better with associate, but still suggests you need a physician. The fire needs to come from PA’s actually wanting it enough to financially support state(if society is working for progression, not trying to restrain). Also supporting AAPA and special interest groups Both financially and by writing letters demanding change for a future, not just to pacify current state. It is nothing magic, Just work. Finally, taking time to write or meet every state lawmaker in your area and present them with the facts on PA vs. NP education and training. I go back to the one I used, Emory univ in Atlanta, top rated for both NP and PA, yet education and requirements are drastically different. This is especially true in states with NP FPA. Law makers are not stupid, just uninformed and writing bills takes time and $$$.
  17. 1 point
    This is a silly post. What does being a "higher-trained and experienced medic" have to do with becoming a physician assistant? That is the beauty of the profession is that many of us come from different backgrounds with different sets of skills. To apply to a physician assistant program, you have completed difficult undergraduate science/math courses, and completed a substantial number of hours in the medical field (Whether this is a medical assistant, paramedic, nurse, scribe, physical therapist, etc). We had several paramedics in our program, some finished towards the top of the class, others in the lower 50%. There are plenty of people who were "just scribes" who worked their rear-ends off, studied/aced the same curriculum, and went out and wowed their professors on clinical rotations. The notion that one must be "a highly trained medic" prior to becoming a physician assistant is ignorant. I wonder what the MD's did prior to medical school? Babysat? Landscaping? Lived off of their parents?
  18. 1 point
    Got accepted from the 2/17 interview. Best of luck to everyone!
  19. 1 point
    I think it's better for it to be pushed back because of the accreditation if you get accepted now, then you have to pay for your seat without knowing accreditation then you have to hustle up that money without knowing the status. and it's an advantage. if majority already been accepted somewhere else before interviews it's a better chance for those who haven't
  20. 1 point
    That’s probably best! Last year I kept hanging onto hope even though I knew it was likely a no. I should’ve started preparing sooner.
  21. 1 point
    It probably wouldn’t help get you an interview but it is something you could talk about during an interview. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
  22. 1 point
    Where to start. Read the forum. If you see something you are very interested in, you can always try and convince them why you are better suited as a PA on your cover letter.
  23. 1 point
    ^^^ If you read this board long enough you will hear.....we are fine, nothing to see here. Yet here you are and here we are. When the meteor lands on top of the ostrich with his head stuck in the sand it kills him.....even if the ostrich refused to watch it coming for him. Had he looked up once and awhile and hauled ass away he might of survived. Our profession has been the ostrich for as long as I can remember except for a few of us enduring being ridiculed for being "chicken littles". We are in major trouble as a profession. Nothing else to see here
  24. 1 point
    Yes, I was accepted a week after. Can't wait to meet everyone
  25. 1 point
    Thank you for sharing this.. What an awesome attitude to have and it should be an inspiration to all. Took me four years to get in so I get the ups and downs and all the emotions in between. You are spot on with the staff and the dedication and the curriculum is tough to prepare you to stand out in the field. We are praying for you all and will continue to be here to assist any way we can. In the mean time, continue preparing to crush those interviews
  26. 1 point
    Or just work for an agency where it is comped!
  27. 1 point
    Ok just a little update. IF you have a DEA in one state and have NO plans to continue to prescribe narcotics in that state <say you are moving states>, the DEA license and number CAN be transferred to the new state. It takes about half the time as a new application but the good news is the money you spent on DEA registration and subsequent time left on your dea license since last renewal in state A will also transfer. There is one caveat. You MUST already have a practice address in the new state you are transferring it to and you must have a license in the new state where you are going to BEFORE they will transfer. Remember IF you plan on ever coming back and prescribing scheduled drugs in the state you are transferring it from, you would need to get a new dea number for that state. Such a stupid money grab, but it is what it is.
  28. 1 point
    I’m still on the waitlist and haven’t heard anything, but got accepted to my first choice so hopefully that frees up a spot if the waitlist starts moving!
  29. 1 point
    I want to encourage everyone who has applied. As Jason and Angie have already stated being patient is a requirement of the profession. Think about how you will interact with patients in your care, their families and loved ones, your colleagues and other professionals you will be encountering every day. I applied last year and I did not get accepted into the program, it was a set back. But I learned a lot from that experience. I believe I was able to grow and become a better applicant this year. I have found this forum to be very helpful and informative. I have seen the joys of being accepted and the heartbreak of receiving a rollover notice. Although I do not post, I do read every post, and I have shared in those moments with many of you through this platform. I have done extensive research into the physician assistant program at Miami Dade College and I wouldn't want to attend anywhere else. The dedication of the staff is second to none. The students in the program have always reached out to those seeking to gain admission. The faculty is top notch, and the education and preparation you will receive is on par with any institution. I am hopeful that this year I will be admitted into this amazing program. My thoughts and prayers are with every hopeful candidate, because you will be my classmates, my friends, my colleagues, and mentors. Best of luck to everyone.
  30. 1 point
    Hi guys! Got a call this morning with the acceptance! I was put in the waitlist after the Nov 1st interviews. I was told a spot had opened up this morning, so I guess they're calling as soon as spots become available. I'm so excited about starting PA school this summer! See you all in July
  31. 1 point
    This is probably true but what about the 200 plus people who won't get in at all? They need to send out rejections. It's infuriating to play the guessing game after almost 6 months. It's almost cruel.
  32. 1 point
    I just got accepted today from the APOS list. Wishing everyone else the best of luck!
  33. 1 point
    When you enter the workforce as a PA or NP no one will care much from where you received your degree, your credentials and reputation are what employers care about. Here is a list of pros and cons: Cost(COL and tuition) Knoxville > Boston Autonomy NP > PA (NP can practice outside of the scope of a supervising physician) Time to complete PA > NP Confidence in program Boston > Knoxville Thats about all the information you gave us, no on here can tell you what the right choice is for your individual circumstances. But you are right we are biased, chose PA.
  34. 1 point
    Just got off the waitlist a week ago today. This is my only school, so I’m taking it! Hang in there, fellow wait-listers! There’s still hope!
  35. 1 point
    Can one even transfer a DEA license number from one state to another? I was under the impression that every state required its own unique number and you had to apply for them separately. I would definitely call the DEA license number hotline. They will tell you for sure.
  36. 1 point
    When I was leaving my last practice, I contacted a student of mine who I thought would be a great fit. He had just graduated the week prior, and he hadn't found anything overly appealing yet. It took about 5-6 weeks for PANCE and licensing and another month before he finally started. It took another month or so for credentialing. I think that equates to about 2 months after graduation. I still haven't received a thank you card or beer for being matchmaker, damn it. Another student had a couple offers within 3.5 months of graduation and accepted one at 3.5 months out. Another had a job within 3 months of graduation.
  37. 1 point
    https://paeaonline.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/paea-presentation-caspa-20200106.pdf This has all of the information on all of the applicants from the 2018 cycle.Average cGPA for matriculants 3.58, sGPA 3.53.
  38. 1 point
    I think if you look at the items listed, outside of U/S, they almost all fall within the realm of forced to act. If you have a patient with suspected tamponade or massive hemothorax then that individual needs a thoracotomy/thoracostomy. EMS has been RSIing for years and while the first pass success rates vary widely based on geographic regions, all in all it's a safe procedure when performed appropriately in the right situations, and oftentimes necessary because if you don't manage that airway prior to getting in flight you're going to have a hell of a time doing in en route. Same with crich, that's not something you're going to do unless you have to, definitely not an elective procedure. These interventions should be performed prior to leaving the sending facility or on the ground and I'm sure they have a good idea of when to stay and play and when to load and go. EMS has been limited in their interventions in trauma situations, other than managing an airway, needle decompression and holding pressure there's not much they can do. With this HEMS service you are essentially bringing the resus bay to the patient. It's a model that is used in Australia, England and other countries with success in my understanding. To touch quickly on the studies of EMS in trauma, it's kind of a tough nut to crack. There was a somewhat recent study released which showed a much higher mortality rate for ALS transports as opposed to BLS...But it also makes sense that those who are sicker are more likely to be transported ALS right? They use the ISS to determine how "sick" the patient is but that score can be skewed as it is based on anatomic regions. A score of 6 for extremity injuries receives the weight as a score of 6 for head trauma. They also looked at the city of Philadelphia which is unique in that law enforcement will just toss the patient in their cruiser and haul butt to the hospital, found that they and ALS both had worse outcomes than BLS, again bringing to mind whether it's a selection bias thing.
  39. 1 point
    Just look up jobs at those states. Anecdotally, I have friends in Nevada and Washington State both of which are independent states and they are doing pretty well and tell me there are lots of jobs for PAs. Last I looked there are no states where they are not employing PAs. Judging by the salary report our salaries are doing well also. Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk
  40. 1 point
    ...No one knows. You're receiving moderately-educated guesses at best, and wild shots in the dark from internet strangers at worst. Even an adcom member can't give you a 100% reliable "chance" because each school is different. Your experiences, personal statement, school list, timing, and "fit" all play a role. Even then, adcoms make surprising decisions. It's not uncommon to be accepted to reach programs and rejected from "safety" schools. Instead of risking false confidence or misplaced defeat, ask yourself these questions instead: Are my GPAs, both science and cumulative, competitive compared to this school's accepted student profile? If not, is the reason compellingly discussed in my personal statement? Does my transcript show that I have grasped the fundamental knowledge to succeed with intense, graduate-level medical science coursework? If there are weak areas of knowledge on my transcript, have I put in the work to turn those weaknesses into strengths? Do I meet all the prerequisite requirements for each school on my list? If I have a questionable course, have I asked for clarification from the schools that require it? Is my PCE (hours and type) competitive compared to this school's accepted student profiles? If my GPAs are below the accepted average, does my PCE surpass the average? If my PCE is below the accepted average, does my GPA surpass it? Have I spent time making sure my experience descriptions are comprehensive and accurately convey what I've learned? Have I scored at least 300 on the GRE (if I'm choosing to take it)? Do my other activities show deeper layers of my personality and interests? Have I taken on increasing responsibility as I've grown? If I've stated an interest in a specific area (for example, underserved or rural care), do my experiences show my passion for that area is genuine? Have at least three people agreed to write me an excellent letter? Do my references meet each school's requirements? Does my personal narrative have an introduction that grabs the reader's interest? Do I "show" the qualities that will make me an outstanding PA, instead of just listing them? Do I show understanding of a PA's role? Does the conclusion convince the reader I'm ready for PA school? Have others read and enjoyed my narrative? Is it grammatically flawless? Do I have an overarching passion or theme that ties my application together? Are my future goals guided by my experiences? Am I a good "fit" at each school on my list? If an interviewer asks me why I applied to each school, what will I say? Do I have a game plan for applying? Have I set myself up for success by planning to apply early? Have I thought beyond the finish line of getting a seat to the logistics, pressures, and potential loneliness of devoting the next 2-3 years to school? Am I in a financial position to fund CASPA costs, interview expenses, seat deposits, and relocation expenses? Am I in a financial position to afford PA school? How is my credit score? Do I have significant undergrad loans, car payments, mortgage payments, or other financial constraints? Does my family truly understand the time investment of PA school? Will my partner move with me if I relocate, or will we have a long-distance relationship? Are we both on the same page about these plans? Can I confidently say I'm ready, not just for PA school, but for life as a PA? Gratuitous link to my blog: https://emttopac.wordpress.com
  41. 1 point
    Congratulations to everyone who has been accepted, excited to meet y'all this Fall! For those who have been accepted already, you can search and join "SCUHS-MSPA Class of 2022". Congratulations again and good luck to anyone else who has any future interviews coming up!
  42. 1 point
    I emailed Rush maybe a week ago and they said that they were still compiling results of the last interview and then still needed to reevaluate the waitlist. When they had this accomplished they would email in which quartile we were placed. Waiting is never easy.
  43. 1 point
    I was accepted this cycle as a third time applicant with a GPA on the lower side. Stats: cGPA: 3.41 sGPA: 3.29 1 year of science post-bacc classes: 3.72 HCE : 1,584 hrs PCE: 10,978 hrs as a resident aide, CNA, PCA, and ER tech Shadowing: about 100 hrs Volunteer: about 50 hrs. Some tips: Make every other aspect of your app as strong as you can. Put effort into getting strong recommendations, at least one from an academic source that can really speak to your ability to handle rigorous science courses (for me, that didn't come until post-bacc but my Prof wrote me what she described as a glowing letter and I know it made a huge difference). Get patient care exp. In a variety of settings and with as much responsibility as possible. Also, calculate and pay attention to your BCP GPA. I hadn't heard of it until I applied the first time, but it is calculated by CASPA and exclusively involves your biology, chem, and physics courses. It is almost a sure rejection if your BCP isn't at least 3.0. I hope you find this helpful, and best of luck with improving your stats and applications!
  44. 1 point
    Struggling in some subjects is natural. That doesn’t mean that you cannot be an amazing PA if that is something you’re passionate about. Try to join a study group, get help outside class, and learn new study habits. You’ve got this
  45. 1 point
    About to give up my seat so someone on the waitlist is about to hear great news! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  46. 1 point
    Lol! I was that way too! Good luck! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  47. 1 point
    Certified in August 19’. Had to move from the area to go to school in FL. Been trying to get back into that area, as well as WY for the last 5 months. Very competitive and NP preferred, and job availability is slim to none. They also have a large preference for new grads (if by chance a job opens for a new grad) for the students coming out of Billings, as they rotate here. I’ve seen maybe 1 or 2 jobs open up in Livingston itself over a span of several months. Bozeman’s surrounding area is a highly desirable living space so competition is stiff. My point is (this is going to be the most realistic advice you’re going to get) get started now if you want to have the slightest chance at employment there after graduating. No joke. Choice of salary, speciality, and specific location in that area are highly unlikely.
  48. 1 point
    Hi everyone! I’m looking for another girl to live with me Downtown in the midtown area! If anyone is interested please let me know!
  49. 1 point
    To whoever has been interviewed can you verify if it was a two-on-one style interview? Thanks!
  50. 1 point
    There was also faculty issues going on that I’ve heard from past Emory students. I’ve spoken with several students from different programs who did take the PANCE that was harder and they did have 1 or 2 that failed but not 12 students like Emory did. I understand the pance got harder. Students paying that much money and being in school for 28 months to flunk the test because they “didn’t study as much” seems like a odd explanation. It might be a top school but for me what’s important ultimately is passing the pance and seeing 98-99% pass rates. Early on, Emory actually did not post the scores on their website and I came to find out during interviews. But nows it’s posted for everyone to see Good luck to those applying!
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