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  2. The lack of certification, narrow location, and drawn-out timeline are severely hindering you. Regarding my own experience, I was hired by a preceptor during my rotation with them. That job was not posted. Before that, I had sent out a couple of random applications to random workplaces (mainly large hospitals), but they weren't interested in hiring a student prior to graduation or certification, so they declined and suggested I try again after I was licensed. Some suggestions and things to chew on: 1. Network, network, network. Jobs aren't always posted so talk to classmates, preceptors, program advisors, state association, professionals you've met through your training thus far, etc. 2. Expand your location. You need a job. You and your wife will make it work somehow, but you need gainful employment ASAP before you start losing prescious knowledge and student loan repayment kicks in (if you have loans). It still may take months to interview and hire you! 3. Your extended graduation and certification timeline may raise a concern that there may be a reason why you couldn't finish in a timely manner or get a job right away. This may scare off potential employers. 4. Take the PANCE ASAP. Six months seems excessive. You'll never be able to memorize all of medicine, and you've likely already studied plenty at this point. 5. Consider a head hunter. 6. Consider a residency. Good luck.
  3. Well, that’s exciting ! One thing we can confirm.
  4. Yes, they said that we were the last interview group
  5. Wil Wheaton wrote a an article in 2015 about a similar event: http://wilwheaton.net/2015/10/you-cant-pay-your-rent-with-the-unique-platform-and-reach-our-site-provides/ I think it has several aspects pertinent to this instance.
  6. I’ve been wondering the same thing! I’m looking forward to meeting everyone!
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  8. Did they say it was, in fact, the last interview ?
  9. Not sure I would even apply to another state unless I had a license in it first. That's the very first question they are going to ask...do you have a license in X state. Most are not going to hire you and then wait around for you to get a license. It's a bit of a catch 22. And yet another new grad who can't find a job. I'm counting the clock until the inevitable, "every thing is ok with our field" comments start to pour in. Everything is not ok for these new grads.
  10. Hello everyone, I'm selling the books M.D.C. recommends studying for the entrance exam. Email me if interested, these books are next to new. Regards, Luis
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  12. I am also interviewing on the 10th! As to their accreditation, I believe that in March they are getting probationary accreditation. I'm not sure exactly why they lost it, but I read somewhere they there were 10 violations in 2017. That being said I know it seems risky but I've been there and the facilities are very modern and I think its worth pursuing!
  13. Hi everyone, I'm in a weird situation and trying to get some perspective. Any feedback is appreciated. Apologize ahead of time for the length. Long story short, I should have graduated in December 2018. But I finished my rotations in December 2018, then had to finish a master's thesis paper which took me until August 2019 (it shouldn't have taken as long as it did, I just personally found the writing process really hard so it was very slow for me), when I officially graduated as a PA. I have been applying to jobs since July 2019, and at this point I have gotten exactly 1 callback. No interviews or any other interest. I think I have submitted almost 50 applications so far. I am not certified yet, I take the PANCE in January (nervous about failing so wanted to give myself plenty of time to study). I am not limiting my applications to any specialty or type of job or special hours. I am applying to anything and everything within 2 hours of where I currently live (Cincinnati), unless the post says that 1year+ of experience is required (which unfortunately, most of them do). Rejection after rejection just keeps rolling in (or worse, no response ever!). I am starting to get very very worried. Does anyone think maybe the reason why I'm not getting callbacks might be because I'm not certified yet? I should have had a job at least 6 months ago on my original timeline. But here I am, not even certified yet, and I am starting to panic a bit. It feels like every day that goes by and with every rejection I am less likely to get a job. I have my resume structured to just say the amount of time I was in each rotation, rather than the dates, because I feel like it would look very bad for me to employers if they knew my rotations were so long ago. I have re-written and restructured my resume and cover letters several times over the past few months. Is it possible there's something in them that is a red flag that I don't realize? I know the job market is saturated in many places in the Midwest. My wife is in a graduate program here and can't relocate until probably May at the earliest. So we were hoping to stay within 2 hours of where we live. But do I just start applying to jobs in other states (possibilities for us could be VA, MI TX, AZ, MA, or somewhere in the US Northeast or Pacific Northwest) and not worry about if she can come with me at this point? I am kind of at a loss of what to do next and freaking out about what employers must think of the growing gap in my resume. Edit: I guess I should also mention that we have 0 problem moving somewhere rural. Probably would prefer it actually.
  14. Hey! I applied to the university of the science’s too! When did you submit your application? I didn’t know they were applying for accreditation and applied late in November, hopefully it’s not too late.
  15. Hey there! I'm a freshman in college, just starting my Army ROTC career. I'm currently a nursing major/biology minor, but looking to go to PA school after college. I'd like to serve in the National Guard for the 8 year contract (with ROTC scholarship) and I'm wondering how everything will work out or if it's a good fit for me. Also wondering if I would be non deployable during PA school? PLEASE feel free to express your experiences with being in a graduate program while serving in the National Guard (is it manageable? take away from your academics?) and what being a PA (or nurse) in the national guard looks like during drill weekends! I also have many worries about potentially starting a family while in the national guard and what that looks like with deployments/commitments, etc (how frequently do PAs / medical professions get deployed? What do those deployments look like in regards to the job I'd be preforming? Do you get any preference / choice of when and where you are deployed?) Sorry for all the questions! I'm very new at the military stuff and just trying to get all my information so I can make the best decisions in my future! I appreciate all of you and thank you for your service!!
  16. I don't think you guys understand just how hard it is for new grads to get jobs now a days especially in oversaturated markets. It's bad. I think whatever they need to do to get their foot in the door is what they need to do. Who are we to judge unless we all pony up and start paying their school loans for them..........
  17. Yes just came home to a letter today (so probably came yesterday). I was waitlisted from the 11/22 interview
  18. Try retaking those classes you received a C in (OChem and BioChem), Keep up with work and get more PCE. Also look for providers that will provide REALLY GOOD LORs. As of now I'd suggest applying to programs that accept a lower c/sGPA. You're on the left side of the bell curve, be aware of the uphill battle in front of you. Don't quit and it'll pay off in the end. good luck.
  19. GPAs are really on the lower side. That combined with your lower grades in your upper level science courses like orgo and biochem and no academic LOR seems like a bit of a red flag to me. Apply broadly (maybe closer to 15) to schools that look at last 45/60 credit GPA and submit as early as possible. Consider getting an academic LOR as many schools require one.
  20. Can someone explain how the day of their interview went? What kind of essay did they ask to write and how intense were the questions?
  21. If two schools require it I'm not sure I understand the problem - you need to take it. Unless you would consider not applying to those programs.
  22. I don't think UF is one of the programs that directly looks at last 60 credits GPA - therefore they will evaluate your overall GPAs. With that said, you have an uphill battle for UF. Low GPA. Average PCE. With stats like that you need to apply wisely. I'm not saying don't apply to UF. Just that you're not a shoe-in.
  23. Hi all, I'm new to the forum but was hoping to request assistance in an important decision. I applied to several programs in the current cycle and have received a few interview invitations and, more recently, my first two acceptances. I was offered a seat in the St. John's University (SJU) MSPAS class of 2023 and the Touro University California (TUC) MSPAS/MPH Class of 2023. I currently live in New York and it is generally more in line with my career goals (to practice in NY) to select SJU. However, I am also very interested in obtaining my MPH (which is why I applied to a school in California in the first place) as I hope to take on research initiatives in the future (both community and clinically based) and hopefully take on a more community and program leadership role several years down the road. Both programs seem very academically strong and have a focus on working with underserved communities (which I am oriented towards) so I am not worried about that when considering my options. The clear distinction is that TUC is in a much more rural environment than SJU but I don't feel this impacts my decision one way or another as I am very open to the new experience of living in a rural environment. The areas where I am truly torn between, and what raise my dilemma, are: Cost effectiveness of education & Time: Upon comparing the costs of attending both universities for 3 years, SJU is only ~$15,000 cheaper. This makes TUC more cost effective/efficient in my eyes. I would of course be taking on a more busy schedule with TUC to obtain both degrees in 33 months, but I believe I am ready to do this. Financially speaking, it seems that the cost of living for both schools and their associated regions would be more or less the same (which is overall not cheap). I do, of course, realize that I can also always obtain my MPH further down the line and potentially have my employer pay for it so I would still save the aforementioned $15,000 if i select SJU. I would also save some associated costs of relocating to a different state and traveling between NY and CA during holidays/breaks over the 3 years. Training in a different state: To those who trained outside of the state which they intended/planned to practice, do you feel this has impacted your preparedness to practice in your desired state? After taking a dive into the NY and CA PA laws, it seems there are not drastic differences between supervision laws of practicing PA's. Of course, this is while taking into consideration the new bill that will take effect in California starting Jan 2020, which removes several supervision criteria for PA's such as countersignature. Therefore, i would not be worried about training in California and then returning to New York as practice and supervision laws would be rather similar. I don't feel that there is a "wrong" decision that I can make here and I am just trying to find what would best benefit my education while keeping my career goals in mind. Please let me know if there are factors that I am failing to acknowledge. Any and all input is greatly appreciated. Thank you all!
  24. According to the program Director/Chair Richard Hopkins, they will notify accepted individuals by Monday the 9th or latest within a week. As per him rejected individuals will also hear by Monday the 9th or may be within a week. However, he said wait listed individuals will be notified by January. May be if you do not hear anything by end of this week, then no news is good news. Anybody get acceptance email or call yet?
  25. I’m wondering if they mean early January for everyone or just for the third group...
  26. Since you worked for 10 years, did you have to re-take all your pre-reqs? Or just certain ones?
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