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Hold up. Don't go after that guy. I'm right here. To answer your question I have no idea who closed the comments. Actually, my own comments were blocked. Obviously you didn't like the article which is fine. I never expected everyone to like it. If you'd like to have that conversation just shoot me an email: wjohnson@immh.com

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I will put my thoughts together - they are pretty much listed in the thread called - Where are we headed.

 

Having done this for a long time both urban and rural and seeing the persistent disaster known as the US medical system - change has to happen.

 

There is room for all of us - 300 million plus citizens need medical care and primary care is a lost art and undesirable residency in medical school. Yet, it is the gateway figuratively and literally to every other medical specialty.

 

So, please see the other thread and consider that plight of primary care in every area.

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http://medicaleconomics.modernmedicine.com/medical-economics/news/modernmedicine/modern-medicine-now/adding-midlevel-providers?page=full

 

Wondering if anyone saw this?

 

"if you plan to let the midlevel see patients for follow-up appointments without direct physician involvement, or grow his or her own pool of patients, consider hiring a nurse practitioner. Practices that perform routine physical exams can use physicians' assistants."

 

Pretty sure he doesn't know what he is talking about.... Although this is from 2012

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stupid, noncompliant patient with minimal findings. most EM boarded docs would have done the same as this PA. I bet I would have if the fellow didn't have pain out of proportion to exam, neurovascular changes, etc. I've seen compartment syndrome several times(and Zika...:)). this was a zebra.

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http://epmonthly.com/article/reasonable-practice-pa-caught-case-compartment-syndrome/

 

My scathing rebuke will be coming shortly, but SEMPA has been once again slow on the uptake. This is pure Anti-PA garbage as they can't fight the nurses.

 

Not a happy camper,

G

 

I'm reading it as a NEW PA and wondering about a blood clot and the 5 Ps instantly ........ agreed! = stupid article....

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Did anyone see this about the new "Dear Abby" columnist TOTALLY missing the mark on PAs in the column published on 7/8/16?
http://chicago.suntimes.com/lifestyles/dear-abby-at-walk-in-clinic-she-walks-out-unhappy/

 

I think this is the comments section: http://www.uexpress.com/dearabby/2016/7/8/0/wife-questions-care-received-at-out-of-town#disqus-comments

Or more about it from another blog/forum called MidlevelU
http://midlevelu.com/blog/dear-abby-disses-physician-assistants

 

Apparently AAPA is looking into it, already....... they posted it on their Facebook page on 7/8.

Sorry if my post is redundant!

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I saw the Dear Abby thing. Husband sounded satisfied, wife sounded gritchy and snotty.

 

Not much good going to come from contacting a social columnist, I think.

 

Still goes to show that our patients and the general public are misinformed, uninformed and we (hear AAPA) have not done enough to promote our profession in the positive and powerful light in which it exists.

 

Deep Sigh

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I don't like how our education was portrayed in this article, specifically how it is compared to the NPs and their clinical abilities.....

The article is titled  "NURSE PRACTITIONER VS PHYSICIAN ASSISTANT: WHAT’S THE BEST CAREER CHOICE?"

 

NPs "are registered nurses who have an advanced degree, and clinical training beyond their registered nursing education. They may manage a patient’s overall care including diagnosing and treating all types of medical conditions. Nurse practitioners can also prescribe medications, order and interpret diagnostics tests and educate patients on the condition. NP’s can specialize in various areas of medicine, such as cardiology, women’s health and oncology."

 

......but........

 

"In order to become a PA, you’ll need to have completed at least a few years of undergrad studies. Most physician assistant schools require an associate or bachelor’s degree for admission.
Physician assistant school is usually two years and a master’s degree is earned." and then only "completing a PA residency in your area of interest may be an option."

 

http://www.gapmedics.com/blog/2016/07/20/nurse-practitionst-career-choice/

 

I agree that there are varying degrees of PAs in existence practicing, but this is current advice to those not yet even in the profession.... there are new standards. Sadly this article comes from a group that states it works with both pre-PA and pre-NP students ....smh.... so, yes, that's exactly why I have a problem with it..... It is a CURRENT article, published in the last few weeks, supposedly telling pre-professional students the differences between PAs and NPs. It may not be critical at the start and end, but its meat-and-potatoes center doesn't do the current PA educational OR clinical standards justice. It tells me all the things an NP is capable of, and then merely states how PAs like me "may" have a few years of education, an associates degree, and that we may want to specialize...... It left a bitter taste in my mouth. It's because of articles like these that our profession suffers and our public professional momentum, unlike that of NPs, is stifled.

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Oh, here's another one from the same Gap Medics group.... I had difficulty reading it.... the comparison is frustrating me....

Title: "SHOULD I BECOME A PHYSICIAN ASSISTANT OR A NURSE?"

 

It's not really TOO bad of an article, but....I didn't know that I had a "little bit more" responsibilities than a nurse..... Thanks for that, Gap Medics. Thanks for "teaching" pre-PA students about my profession.
 
(Note: I am NOT bashing the nursing profession; RESPECT your nurses. They are AWSOME!)

 

http://www.gapmedics.com/blog/2015/07/23/weighing-becoming-physician-assistant-nurse/

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Well, this is stupid: the Sport of Kings appears to feel that PAs (and NPs) should be lumped in with chiropractors and dentists...

 

From http://m.teamusa.org/usa-boxing/features/2016/june/10/reminder-athlete-physical-required-to-compete-in-all-usa-boxing-events-including-dallas-event 

 

 

 

 Be sure that whatever form you use, it is completed and signed by a physician (MD or DO), signed by the athlete (and legal guardian if under 18 years old) and it states clearly “cleared for contact sports” or “cleared for all sports.”  Attach a copy of the physical or the “Annual Physical Signature Page” to your passbook (inside, back cover). You may want to keep an additional copy for your records. Per our rules, exams will not be accepted if done by Nurse Practitioners, Physician Assistants, Dentists, Chiropractors, EMT’s or other non-physician medical providers.
 

 

I'm putting @USABoxing on blast, on Twitter, but maybe someone who's feeling mature and professional today could write to them as well? It's ironic as hell to me that an organization dedicated to the gentle art of athletes giving one another brain damage is being snooty about who's qualified to complete a physical exam. 

 

(Admittedly it's a cool exam, with more executive function and memory/ cognition testing than your basic DOT physical but if I'm cleared to do those, you'd think this would be within my range...) 

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15 things only people who work in the medical field will understand.

 

It was such a normal article until #15...

 

15. You took a short cut.

If you decided that the easy way out to get into medicine as a PA (Physician Assistant) was a good idea, you are now beginning to have second thoughts. The tough thing is that while the training was dead easy with just two years, the chances of moving up the career ladder are limited to say the least. You are always working under supervision and have practically no autonomy. The only consolation is that there is a chance to move between specialties.

 

Read more at: http://forum.facmedicine.com/threads/15-things-only-people-who-work-in-the-medical-field-will-understand.25365/

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15 things only people who work in the medical field will understand.

 

It was such a normal article until #15...

 

15. You took a short cut.

If you decided that the easy way out to get into medicine as a PA (Physician Assistant) was a good idea, you are now beginning to have second thoughts. The tough thing is that while the training was dead easy with just two years, the chances of moving up the career ladder are limited to say the least. You are always working under supervision and have practically no autonomy. The only consolation is that there is a chance to move between specialties.

 

Read more at: http://forum.facmedicine.com/threads/15-things-only-people-who-work-in-the-medical-field-will-understand.25365/

Could we find the author and curb stomp them?..professionally of course
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15 things only people who work in the medical field will understand.

 

It was such a normal article until #15...

 

15. You took a short cut.

If you decided that the easy way out to get into medicine as a PA (Physician Assistant) was a good idea, you are now beginning to have second thoughts. The tough thing is that while the training was dead easy with just two years, the chances of moving up the career ladder are limited to say the least. You are always working under supervision and have practically no autonomy. The only consolation is that there is a chance to move between specialties.

 

Read more at: http://forum.facmedicine.com/threads/15-things-only-people-who-work-in-the-medical-field-will-understand.25365/

 

Looks like this person deleted number 15 after the onslaught of comments regarding this disgraceful comment. 

 

However, the originial source still has number 15 standing. 

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I clicked on the "source" of that list and the original work is by Robert Locke MBE, an author...in Italy...

 

http://www.lifehack.org/articles/work/15-things-only-people-who-work-the-medical-field-will-understand.html

This person is a well known troll on facebook. He pops up in PA groups and slanders the profession. I think his story is that he tried becoming a PA and failed. Now he is a sour recruiter of PA's (or so he says). His main comments are usually that obtaining a masters degree is pointless etc. hilarious.

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