lljee Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 I will be graduating soon and am so excited about starting my PA career! I was recently offered a position with a large surgical practice in a major city, but I feel as though the salary is rather low, especially since I am expected to work 60+ hours/week, plus 6 on-call shifts/month. May I have some insight as to what a surgical PA should expect to be compensated? Also, the group operates out of 3 hospitals. Is it fair to ask to be compensated for travel expenses? The group offered: $95k/year with possible 3% increase after annual evaluations 3 weeks paid vacation 1 week paid CME time off with $1000 towards CMEs "Standard sick days" (not sure what that means) Medical/Dental insurance Licence and malpractice fees Hours M-F 0700-1700ish On-call one night/week, plus one weekend/month 1 day/week in clinic and 4 days in the OR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryebread203 Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 I will be graduating soon and am so excited about starting my PA career! I was recently offered a position with a large surgical practice in a major city, but I feel as though the salary is rather low, especially since I am expected to work 60+ hours/week, plus 6 on-call shifts/month. May I have some insight as to what a surgical PA should expect to be compensated? Also, the group operates out of 3 hospitals. Is it fair to ask to be compensated for travel expenses? The group offered: $95k/year with possible 3% increase after annual evaluations 3 weeks paid vacation 1 week paid CME time off with $1000 towards CMEs "Standard sick days" (not sure what that means) Medical/Dental insurance Licence and malpractice fees Hours M-F 0700-1700ish On-call one night/week, plus one weekend/month 1 day/week in clinic and 4 days in the OR Pass. At that salary you would be making ~$30 per hour. If they want you to work one and a half jobs, you should be getting paid hourly. If you work your ass off, then you should be well compensated for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crossbone2007 Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 Yeah, I would pass as well. Surgery is a high salaried speciality, especially in big cities. Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tunafish Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 this is absurd. 7-5 is 1.2 FTE plus tons of call. I work in gen surgery on the weekends and sometimes that call is nothing for the docs and sometimes they are in the hospital from friday night to monday morning. if you like the group you can counter - they want you to work 10 hour days - then you work 4 days a week. Fair and square. call should be paid separate, rate to carry a pager and rate and minimum hours to come to the hospital as needed. Every one on OR teams work that way - anesthesia, RNs, surg techs and docs know it oh so well. They take weekend call to make more money. "But you are a provider..." talk does not apply here. we are not compensated half a mil a year to have above hours and lifestyle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boli Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 That is pretty bad. 30/hr is less than RN pay. That's a offensive salary offer for 60hr weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator rev ronin Posted June 25, 2017 Administrator Share Posted June 25, 2017 You might counter with $40, non-exempt... Surgeons don't like that, but they have to pay everyone ELSE in the office that way...At that rate, you'd be getting paid 2800 per 60 hour week, which is ~$140,000/year if they use you that much. Sounds a bit fairer to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAtoB Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 sent you a PM of what my new grad package was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAtoB Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 for comparison sake: new grad surgical specialty here also in major metro area at large hospital, one OR day a week here with no call, no weekends, no holidays. pretty strict 8-8.5 hours/day. more PTO. more CME. basically same salary as you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nixietink Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Holy crap that is bad. Plus the hours and call? Sounds like a recipe for burnout... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbeTheBabe Posted July 8, 2017 Share Posted July 8, 2017 My salary was 95K as a surgical new grad PA in a large major city. However, I usually only work 40-45 hours per week, no weekend/holidays/call, and I get 10% of my collections as a bonus. Bumped me to 100K after a year. CME is 1 week and $2K. 3 weeks PTO. Medical is really expensive though, luckily I'm covered through my wife. As far as the travel expenses, they should reimburse you if you drive to more than one place. So they won't reimburse you from home to work and vice versa, but they'll reimburse you for any driving you have to do in between at the IRS rate which is like 50 cents a mile. You would need to confirm this with them though. If they expect you to work such long hours, I'd definitely ask for hourly or a MUCH higher salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wookie Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Sh*t offer. I know this and I'm not even in surgery. This is why I can't ever work a salaried position. 60+ hours work week + call is a major hit on your personal life. A nurse's hourly rate is likely higher than that. 3% raise is just standard cost of living increase. I'd only take this offer if I thought it would be an amazing learning experience, I'm 24 years old, no wife, and no kids. Even then, I'd stay 1 year at the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camoman1234 Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Pass on this offer or counter. Let them know why so they will learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyNameWasUsed Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 60hr/week for 95k lolz god dam it we need a union... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mic87 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Don't accept it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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