south Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 So I used Google and a burner email to download the 2015 tax returns for the NCCPA (for free). Here it is. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6eKmysujfT7LW9OaEFwTVQwbDA/view This is not my field, but maybe we can crowdsource this. Based on a very brief, cursory look at their balance sheet, it looks as though it's a lot more lucrative than we expected. - They pull in about $16M / year. (broken down by type of exam fee, which was interesting) - some of their expenses and salaries are very vague but they claim about $13M. - salaries were interesting - They have about $12M invested somewhere earning respectable returns - The two organizations - PA health whatever and PA history whatever, look straight up hinky to me...check them out on NCCPA "about us " website. http://www.nccpa.net/FoundationPage what do these organizations do? well, nothing really, they "value" things and "respect" other things. These verbs are not jobs or functions that justify you spending time on them...just saying. (What do you do? I'm a mechanic, I fix cars. What about you? Oh, I "value" and "respect" things. ) Download, read, Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
south Posted April 21, 2017 Author Share Posted April 21, 2017 Will not attach as it is 1.3 MB. Anyone wanting this file, message me. Better yet, what's a good place I can put it ya'll can all go get it without registering or signing in someplace? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator rev ronin Posted April 21, 2017 Administrator Share Posted April 21, 2017 Wikileaks? In all seriousness, you may be able to set google docs to public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
south Posted April 21, 2017 Author Share Posted April 21, 2017 try this... https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6eKmysujfT7LW9OaEFwTVQwbDA/view?usp=sharing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedicinePower Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Dawn Morton-Riass is making nearly $200k more than everyone else at $334,234. I wonder what her salary is now two years later. Lasharn Hughes (VP of Certification Maintenance) was only paid $11,740 but that was probably to being hired late in the year or left early in the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMD16 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Wow! Interesting!! That explained why they're in for a fight with AAPA. Talk about cat fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAAdmission Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 NCCPA be like: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAAdmission Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Wow! Interesting!! That explained why they're in for a fight with AAPA. Talk about cat fight. Imagine where our profession would be if the AAPA could bring in $16 million a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceBanner Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Nice work south!! This reminds me of movie plots when organizations set up "shell" sub-corporations or subsidiaries as elaborate laundering fronts. Also my estimate of 17 million was very close!! That 12M in the stock market....could be a rainy day fund for a war with the AAPA or it could be a "retirement" fund for board members. I just dont trust them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator rev ronin Posted April 22, 2017 Administrator Share Posted April 22, 2017 So how does their revenue, employees, etc. compare to AAPA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
south Posted April 22, 2017 Author Share Posted April 22, 2017 Let's find out! https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6eKmysujfT7N0Z2cUFHcmxqMkk/view?usp=sharing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator rev ronin Posted April 22, 2017 Administrator Share Posted April 22, 2017 So the AAPA, which does everything, is only about 20-25% bigger than the NCCPA, which only does certification? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeA Posted April 25, 2017 Share Posted April 25, 2017 So the AAPA, which does everything, is only about 20-25% bigger than the NCCPA, which only does certification? AAPA has to beg people to join. NCCPA has you by the gonads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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